Trials of Finding New Job

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Prohibiting

1,741 posts

119 months

Saturday 14th September 2019
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Thesprucegoose said:
what was the brand new career?
As mentioned, I got into sales, Nov 2017.

Prior to that I was a young farmer for 7 years on the family farm.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 14th September 2019
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Well done.

fridaypassion

8,586 posts

229 months

Saturday 14th September 2019
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Sales is a great option for people if you are that way inclined. People would be surprised what you can bring in even on the books working for a large company.

I know a chap doing easy 3 figures on software sales. Another mate does well as an area sales guy for an industrial refrigeration company. Both just fell into the roles but if you are a natural you can make up for not having a degree or formal qualifications.

Even the world of stair domineering directorship can stem from having a nouse for sales.

Flibble

6,476 posts

182 months

Sunday 15th September 2019
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Thesprucegoose said:
not self employed. It was an example. Basically could i learn coding or something and get an entry level position for example, other types of jobs available..
I think you'd be incredibly lucky to get a coding job with one month self taught experience. You'd barely be able to contribute at that sort of level. A lot of the entry level jobs go to grads, so that's the competition.

I would imagine a similar scenario for most industries, you're trying to compete with people doing a normal entry which requires upwards of a year of training.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 17th September 2019
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Has a first stage assessment for Toyota assembly op, passed, another one next week. Money is good but not sure, I fancy trying for driving instructor next year, anyone done it from scratch?

Andy_stook_2k

179 posts

178 months

Wednesday 18th September 2019
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Thesprucegoose said:
Has a first stage assessment for Toyota assembly op, passed, another one next week. Money is good but not sure, I fancy trying for driving instructor next year, anyone done it from scratch?
Have you tried Perkins, they have been recruiting through Randstad recently?

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 18th September 2019
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Andy_stook_2k said:
Have you tried Perkins, they have been recruiting through Randstad recently?
Didn't want to really do it again, Assembly work, so Toyota is only one i would go for. Have a sour taste as i worked 1.6 years for another British Manufacturer, did all the OT, never moaned yet laid off at drop of hat. Toyota seems much professional, not who you know.

Edited by Thesprucegoose on Wednesday 18th September 08:14

lyonspride

2,978 posts

156 months

Wednesday 18th September 2019
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Thesprucegoose said:
Andy_stook_2k said:
Have you tried Perkins, they have been recruiting through Randstad recently?
Didn't want to really do it again, Assembly work, so Toyota is only one i would go for. Have a sour taste as i worked 1.6 years for another British Manufacturer, did all the OT, never moaned yet laid off at drop of hat. Toyota seems much professional, not who you know.
It depends on how much of a hand the Japanese have in the day to day running, they're sensible, ruthless, but fair, they'll get rid of a redundant manager quite happily instead of dropping 3 workers, but UK management stick together and would just drop all the workers and sit their at their desks doing nothing all day with nobody left to "manage".

Countdown

39,986 posts

197 months

Wednesday 18th September 2019
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lyonspride said:
It depends on how much of a hand the Japanese have in the day to day running, they're sensible, ruthless, but fair, they'll get rid of a redundant manager quite happily instead of dropping 3 workers, but UK management stick together and would just drop all the workers and sit their at their desks doing nothing all day with nobody left to "manage".
So who does all the "work"?

lyonspride

2,978 posts

156 months

Wednesday 18th September 2019
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Countdown said:
lyonspride said:
It depends on how much of a hand the Japanese have in the day to day running, they're sensible, ruthless, but fair, they'll get rid of a redundant manager quite happily instead of dropping 3 workers, but UK management stick together and would just drop all the workers and sit their at their desks doing nothing all day with nobody left to "manage".
So who does all the "work"?
The remaining workers have to "work harder", so eventually it all goes down the pan, as seen at many a British manufacturing facility. Even when MG Rover was dying a death, they were still taking on management apprentices, whilst simultaneously laying of the shop floor.

BrabusMog

20,184 posts

187 months

Wednesday 18th September 2019
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To those struggling to find work, where in the UK are you and how picky are you being?

My younger brother is a bit of a fkwit but had managed to somehow get himself into a decent paid office based ops role. Unfortunately the stress got too much for him and he started slipping, and ended up agreeing to leave on a 3 months' notice. He kept looking at the same level he was being paid (not sure but presuming £30-£40k) with absolutely no joy, so I suggested he look at temp roles to save him going on the rock n roll if he still struggled once his notice was up. Not the money he was on but he says he has literally been rejecting interviews the past week and he finishes work a week Friday and starts the temp role the following Monday. He says they know he is still looking for perm roles and are happy with that.

It may not be applicable for all situations but if you're in a temp role it may seem more appealling to someone looking for a permanent staff member as opposed to someone that hasn't been working. It may also help with getting back into a routine and getting some cash back in the bank.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 18th September 2019
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I've started looking for temp roles, lickily i can last a few months without pay. I;m not fussy really just don;t want to keep swapping jobs, try and find a good fit.

Flooble

5,565 posts

101 months

Wednesday 18th September 2019
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I just received a rejection email for a job I don't even remember applying for. I've not applied for any roles this year at all, not even had my CV on any of the sites. So either they have an utterly awful recruitment process (12 months+ from application to sift) or they are pre-rejecting me just in case I apply ...

singlecoil

33,726 posts

247 months

Wednesday 18th September 2019
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Flooble said:
...or they are pre-rejecting me just in case I apply ...
laugh



MYOB

4,806 posts

139 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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After so long unsuccessfully applying for jobs, I've decided to buy into a window cleaning franchise!

I'm a former Civil servant of 20 years so a radical departure! There is work out there if you think outside the box.

singlecoil

33,726 posts

247 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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MYOB said:
After so long unsuccessfully applying for jobs, I've decided to buy into a window cleaning franchise!

I'm a former Civil servant of 20 years so a radical departure! There is work out there if you think outside the box.
Well done for thinking outside the 'I need someone to give me a job' box ,though I'm wondering why a franchise rather than just starting on your own?

bad company

18,671 posts

267 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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singlecoil said:
MYOB said:
After so long unsuccessfully applying for jobs, I've decided to buy into a window cleaning franchise!

I'm a former Civil servant of 20 years so a radical departure! There is work out there if you think outside the box.
Well done for thinking outside the 'I need someone to give me a job' box ,though I'm wondering why a franchise rather than just starting on your own?
That’s what I was thinking. A leaflet drop in the area you want to work will give you enough customers to get you started. Why pay a franchise company, what exactly will they do for their cut of your money?

lyonspride

2,978 posts

156 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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bad company said:
singlecoil said:
MYOB said:
After so long unsuccessfully applying for jobs, I've decided to buy into a window cleaning franchise!

I'm a former Civil servant of 20 years so a radical departure! There is work out there if you think outside the box.
Well done for thinking outside the 'I need someone to give me a job' box ,though I'm wondering why a franchise rather than just starting on your own?
That’s what I was thinking. A leaflet drop in the area you want to work will give you enough customers to get you started. Why pay a franchise company, what exactly will they do for their cut of your money?
I would imagine it's because there's a lot of competition, I've heard of window cleaner turf wars, something akin to the ice cream wars in Glasgow, vans getting smashed, physical altercations, stolen equipment, etc etc. So I imagine being part of a franchise would be a stronger position than a one man band.

BrabusMog

20,184 posts

187 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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lyonspride said:
bad company said:
singlecoil said:
MYOB said:
After so long unsuccessfully applying for jobs, I've decided to buy into a window cleaning franchise!

I'm a former Civil servant of 20 years so a radical departure! There is work out there if you think outside the box.
Well done for thinking outside the 'I need someone to give me a job' box ,though I'm wondering why a franchise rather than just starting on your own?
That’s what I was thinking. A leaflet drop in the area you want to work will give you enough customers to get you started. Why pay a franchise company, what exactly will they do for their cut of your money?
I would imagine it's because there's a lot of competition, I've heard of window cleaner turf wars, something akin to the ice cream wars in Glasgow, vans getting smashed, physical altercations, stolen equipment, etc etc. So I imagine being part of a franchise would be a stronger position than a one man band.
How would a franchise help prevent that rofl Even if it is a thing, which it probably isn't.

Countdown

39,986 posts

197 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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bad company said:
singlecoil said:
MYOB said:
After so long unsuccessfully applying for jobs, I've decided to buy into a window cleaning franchise!

I'm a former Civil servant of 20 years so a radical departure! There is work out there if you think outside the box.
Well done for thinking outside the 'I need someone to give me a job' box ,though I'm wondering why a franchise rather than just starting on your own?
That’s what I was thinking. A leaflet drop in the area you want to work will give you enough customers to get you started. Why pay a franchise company, what exactly will they do for their cut of your money?
The ones in our area appear to have some kind of cartel i.e. they won't do a property is "somebody else's" area