Excessive phone use, very annoying.
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I work in a mechanical role in the construction industry, sometimes permanent sometimes agency work.
Two of us started on a new job last week, few months work at a decent rate. The company seems busy so you know get stuck in, make a good impression etc etc, might lead to more work.
The guy that started the same day as me is a right loser, 35 years old and got absolutely f
k all to his name, no car does not drive, no place of his own, string of failed relationships behind him, always moaning about women, always moaning about his step dad, (I think he lives at home). First week on the job he had a day off to go to Alton Towers, just a bit of a knob.
When I say he is never off his phone, fk me I have never seen anything like it, he is a grown man and he is constantly staring at his phone, he is out of his depth with what we are doing so has had to take a bit of a secondary role, as soon as there is a spare second the phone is out, on Friday it got to the point that other people were noticing this and it was getting on everybodys nerves. Even the foreman passed comment.
Is it some sort of mind control this phone use? What did people do before smart phones became commonplace.
I have one and I do use it, but within reason.
Two of us started on a new job last week, few months work at a decent rate. The company seems busy so you know get stuck in, make a good impression etc etc, might lead to more work.
The guy that started the same day as me is a right loser, 35 years old and got absolutely f
k all to his name, no car does not drive, no place of his own, string of failed relationships behind him, always moaning about women, always moaning about his step dad, (I think he lives at home). First week on the job he had a day off to go to Alton Towers, just a bit of a knob.When I say he is never off his phone, f
k me I have never seen anything like it, he is a grown man and he is constantly staring at his phone, he is out of his depth with what we are doing so has had to take a bit of a secondary role, as soon as there is a spare second the phone is out, on Friday it got to the point that other people were noticing this and it was getting on everybodys nerves. Even the foreman passed comment.Is it some sort of mind control this phone use? What did people do before smart phones became commonplace.
I have one and I do use it, but within reason.
I supervised an industrial placement student a few years back who was like this. He was on his phone all the time. Even when he had to put the phone down and point himself in the right direction, you could see him twitching to get back to it. It drove me mad! I gave him a couple of light bkings about it and he was very apologetic, in the same way that someone is apologetic about something they have no control over....
At 21 years old it's bad, at 35 it inexcusable.
I worked laying tarmac over the summer whilst at university in the 90s. A lad I was working with used to text all the time (no face book, juSt sms at 10p a chuck). The gaffer snatched it off him a chucked it under the roller. It was a Nokia 3310, so chances are it still worked.
kings about it and he was very apologetic, in the same way that someone is apologetic about something they have no control over....At 21 years old it's bad, at 35 it inexcusable.
I worked laying tarmac over the summer whilst at university in the 90s. A lad I was working with used to text all the time (no face book, juSt sms at 10p a chuck). The gaffer snatched it off him a chucked it under the roller. It was a Nokia 3310, so chances are it still worked.
Its proper addictive behaviour, I have had to sack 2 apprentices over it, they just wouldn't take a telling.
One of my customers tells all his staff if he sees them on a non company mobile outside of breaktimes the phone is getting stamped on. The second time he followed through with it people started to believe him.
One of my customers tells all his staff if he sees them on a non company mobile outside of breaktimes the phone is getting stamped on. The second time he followed through with it people started to believe him.
If the Foreman and other people have noticed it he won't be around long.
You could always have a quiet chat with him as concerned colleague and tell him he is doing himself no favours and is probably risking his tenure, but I suspect you won't want to do that. Or you can keep your head down and let nature take it's course.
You could always have a quiet chat with him as concerned colleague and tell him he is doing himself no favours and is probably risking his tenure, but I suspect you won't want to do that. Or you can keep your head down and let nature take it's course.
Monkeylegend said:
If the Foreman and other people have noticed it he won't be around long.
You could always have a quiet chat with him as concerned colleague and tell him he is doing himself no favours and is probably risking his tenure, but I suspect you won't want to do that. Or you can keep your head down and let nature take it's course.
These days I just look after myself, earn a wage do my best and just get on with it.You could always have a quiet chat with him as concerned colleague and tell him he is doing himself no favours and is probably risking his tenure, but I suspect you won't want to do that. Or you can keep your head down and let nature take it's course.
I had to impose a "no phone" policy at work. Like the OPs position one person always on their phone at the annoyance of everyone else. If they have a sick kid at home or something like that then fair enough they keep the phone on them but thats it. Phones stay in the staff room and can be checked whenever they want but they have to physically leave where they are working to do so which is obvious the everyone, especially me.
Joe Rogan made an observation that if you invented a drug that people couldn't leave alone, have people walking around like zombies on it cut off from the world around, ignoring each other's company at dinner and social occasions on it, losing sleep at night on it, make driving cars etc more dangerous, etc and so on, in the way that phones and social media have evolved to produce an addiction akin to, it'd be so hyper banned from the outset.
Not that I'm making excuses, your man has an issue just as if he'd turned up still drunk or whatever. I work for clients often charging by the hour and I make a point of not having the phone in my hand too often, and certainly avoid letting them observe me using it for anything other than answering a call.
Not that I'm making excuses, your man has an issue just as if he'd turned up still drunk or whatever. I work for clients often charging by the hour and I make a point of not having the phone in my hand too often, and certainly avoid letting them observe me using it for anything other than answering a call.
randomeddy said:
I work in a mechanical role in the construction industry, sometimes permanent sometimes agency work.
Two of us started on a new job last week, few months work at a decent rate. The company seems busy so you know get stuck in, make a good impression etc etc, might lead to more work.
The guy that started the same day as me is a right loser, 35 years old and got absolutely fk all to his name, no car does not drive, no place of his own, string of failed relationships behind him, always moaning about women, always moaning about his step dad, (I think he lives at home). First week on the job he had a day off to go to Alton Towers, just a bit of a knob.
When I say he is never off his phone, fk me I have never seen anything like it, he is a grown man and he is constantly staring at his phone, he is out of his depth with what we are doing so has had to take a bit of a secondary role, as soon as there is a spare second the phone is out, on Friday it got to the point that other people were noticing this and it was getting on everybodys nerves. Even the foreman passed comment.
Is it some sort of mind control this phone use? What did people do before smart phones became commonplace.
I have one and I do use it, but within reason.
From what you say about him he is probably very insecure and uses his phone constantly as a connection to the outside world. It gives him an opportunity to feel wanted and in touch, and it also let his colleagues know as well.Two of us started on a new job last week, few months work at a decent rate. The company seems busy so you know get stuck in, make a good impression etc etc, might lead to more work.
The guy that started the same day as me is a right loser, 35 years old and got absolutely f
k all to his name, no car does not drive, no place of his own, string of failed relationships behind him, always moaning about women, always moaning about his step dad, (I think he lives at home). First week on the job he had a day off to go to Alton Towers, just a bit of a knob.When I say he is never off his phone, f
k me I have never seen anything like it, he is a grown man and he is constantly staring at his phone, he is out of his depth with what we are doing so has had to take a bit of a secondary role, as soon as there is a spare second the phone is out, on Friday it got to the point that other people were noticing this and it was getting on everybodys nerves. Even the foreman passed comment.Is it some sort of mind control this phone use? What did people do before smart phones became commonplace.
I have one and I do use it, but within reason.
I work on a defence site.
If you accidentally bring your phone/non approved laptop/tablet/USB stick into the office, it’s a cake-able offence. So you have to buy cakes for the other 30+ guys in the office. You learn really fast!
It doesn’t make any difference to your day either.
All social media is banned on the PC’s
It makes a welcome relief just seeing your phone for a couple of minutes at lunchtime in the car.
If you accidentally bring your phone/non approved laptop/tablet/USB stick into the office, it’s a cake-able offence. So you have to buy cakes for the other 30+ guys in the office. You learn really fast!
It doesn’t make any difference to your day either.
All social media is banned on the PC’s
It makes a welcome relief just seeing your phone for a couple of minutes at lunchtime in the car.
From a marketing perspective as said above the ability of social media (and equally website analytics) to be addictive is a good thing, but equally it is amazing from a targeting and learning perspective. I think many don't realise what information can be gleaned from the general data (and even more so specialists in those areas using big data) about your life, views and beliefs.
Even at basic level on a day to day basis the company website I help craft and develop is driven around the age range, genders, day and time, location and sources of the people that visit our website (ironically property and construction related).
Social Media really takes that one stage further and can learn far more about you.
The flipside to all of this is despite it being on the face of it anonymous, if it were possible to identify you as a person then all of the above can be used about you (which helps with targeted advertising).
Downside of all this is that social media is designed to be addictive and even some of the original creators now believe it has gone too far. In the marketing world it is strange that I have fairly "regular" conversations that whilst we use it professionally and have knowledge of these platforms many know the negative side and in a personal life there is "limited" use of it (I am on most of them but have very little interaction beyond the odd bit, probably my OH posts more to mine than me....).
Equally, there is a huge generational divide of the late teens, early 20's that are very different to the late 20's to early 30's age group. Many on here probably consider it is about Facebook, Twitter, but the early 20's lot are more snapchat and instagram.
To show how bad things are we had a new set of graduates start this year alongside a second set. Following the first set where we had to speedily go through Office programs like outlook, excel and word it blew many of the minds of us "oldies". For the second set we have implemented something more "through". As many of us said we could just not believe what we were having to do, but they simply did not get it initially (and it has caused issues even with the second set).
Even at basic level on a day to day basis the company website I help craft and develop is driven around the age range, genders, day and time, location and sources of the people that visit our website (ironically property and construction related).
Social Media really takes that one stage further and can learn far more about you.
The flipside to all of this is despite it being on the face of it anonymous, if it were possible to identify you as a person then all of the above can be used about you (which helps with targeted advertising).
Downside of all this is that social media is designed to be addictive and even some of the original creators now believe it has gone too far. In the marketing world it is strange that I have fairly "regular" conversations that whilst we use it professionally and have knowledge of these platforms many know the negative side and in a personal life there is "limited" use of it (I am on most of them but have very little interaction beyond the odd bit, probably my OH posts more to mine than me....).
Equally, there is a huge generational divide of the late teens, early 20's that are very different to the late 20's to early 30's age group. Many on here probably consider it is about Facebook, Twitter, but the early 20's lot are more snapchat and instagram.
To show how bad things are we had a new set of graduates start this year alongside a second set. Following the first set where we had to speedily go through Office programs like outlook, excel and word it blew many of the minds of us "oldies". For the second set we have implemented something more "through". As many of us said we could just not believe what we were having to do, but they simply did not get it initially (and it has caused issues even with the second set).
Edited by Ninja59 on Monday 24th September 08:07
Simon Sinek talks a lot about phones and their addictive nature. Some people are completely addicted to them, and maybe don't even realise. It's very sad to see technology destroying rather than enhancing our lives.
One of Simons video clips below, definately worth a watch...
https://youtu.be/R0xYCy2eft8
One of Simons video clips below, definately worth a watch...
https://youtu.be/R0xYCy2eft8
Cloudy147 said:
Simon Sinek talks a lot about phones and their addictive nature. Some people are completely addicted to them, and maybe don't even realise. It's very sad to see technology destroying rather than enhancing our lives.
One of Simons video clips below, definately worth a watch...
https://youtu.be/R0xYCy2eft8
Thanks for that. One of Simons video clips below, definately worth a watch...
https://youtu.be/R0xYCy2eft8
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