Advise please, Company allowed to change my package?

[crusty]

Hi All

I work for a large well known company that are currently in the process of introducing new bands for jobs (they call it career levels)

As it stands, it looks like I am likely to lose my car allowance and possibly a percentage of bonus. I have had the car allowance for over 10 years and is worth £6k to me before tax.

Are they able to just stop the above or do I have any rights?

Thanks

[Countdown]

i think so. It sounds similar to “Single Status / Pay and Grading / Job Evaluation” that a lot of public sector bodies have been through.

Effectively they terminate your old contract and offer you a new one.

[ciege]

Are you being dismissed and re-engaged?

Or is there a period of adjustment?

http://www.acas.org.uk/media/pdf/k/s/Varying-a-con...

Edited by ciege on Thursday 18th October 14:10

[crusty]

I am continuing with same job, not finishing and starting a new one

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crusty said:

I am continuing with same job, not finishing and starting a new one

That may be the case but that doesn't stop them terminating your existing contract and issuing you with a new one and saying "take it or leave it"

[crusty]

Countdown said:

crusty said:

I am continuing with same job, not finishing and starting a new one

That may be the case but that doesn't stop them terminating your existing contract and issuing you with a new one and saying "take it or leave it"

It hasn't come to that yet, but if they do, what are my options?

[Pintofbest]

Countdown said:

That may be the case but that doesn't stop them terminating your existing contract and issuing you with a new one and saying "take it or leave it"

Should that not come with a period of consultation? Severe changes in terms could be construed as constructive dismissal couldn't they if not consulted and agreed?

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Pintofbest said:

Countdown said:

That may be the case but that doesn't stop them terminating your existing contract and issuing you with a new one and saying "take it or leave it"

Should that not come with a period of consultation? Severe changes in terms could be construed as constructive dismissal couldn't they if not consulted and agreed?

Yes it absolutely should (IIRC the length of the consultation period depends on the number of people affected). However, at the end of it, if theyd ecide to progress, then OP has little option apart from take it or leave it. His union (if applicable) may be able to negotiate a better offer.

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crusty said:

It hasn't come to that yet, but if they do, what are my options?

Take the new offer or accept redundancy.

There's a guy on here called Breadvan72 - he's the oracle in relation to HR law. It might be worth dropping him a PM. I am only a mere accountant who was tasked with costing various different options when organisations went through restructures.

[crusty]

No unions involved

So basically, they can change my contract and I can potentially be thousands of pounds worse off, and my options are to like it or leave?

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crusty said:

No unions involved

So basically, they can change my contract and I can potentially be thousands of pounds worse off, and my options are to like it or leave?

Or negotiate?

[crusty]

2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:

crusty said:

No unions involved

So basically, they can change my contract and I can potentially be thousands of pounds worse off, and my options are to like it or leave?

Or negotiate?

That won't be an option, as these are blanket changes to make everyone fit into their new categories, last thing they will agree to are any exceptions

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crusty said:

2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:

crusty said:

No unions involved

So basically, they can change my contract and I can potentially be thousands of pounds worse off, and my options are to like it or leave?

Or negotiate?

That won't be an option, as these are blanket changes to make everyone fit into their new categories, last thing they will agree to are any exceptions

Doesn't sound like the type of firm I'd like to work for.

[crusty]

2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:

Doesn't sound like the type of firm I'd like to work for.

They have been steadily getting worse over the years

[Steve H]

If they are that bad then it might be worth looking at the redundancy option...........


Seems odd though that they can effectively make a post redundant and then immediately recreate the same job (albeit on worse terms). BV could no doubt explain but I thought redundancy was where a post was no longer required?

[Marcellus]

I may be wrong on this as it’s been quite a while since I was involved in employment law, but iirc there are “terms” and “conditions” of an employment contract.

I think terms cannot be changed without your consent whereas conditions they can change with due notice.

I think it could be argued that a company car is a term and not a condition.