Generation Z and interviews
Discussion
I'm on the cusp of Gen Z and Millennial (24) and can confirm there are them out there. But there are good ones!
I've turned up to 1 job interview late, and that was due to an accident on route. I called as soon as I knew and told them - still got the job.
I've had to cancel 1 interview on the day, as I was in hospital. I still rung, explained, and the fact they heard the Nurse b
king me probably helped.
I've turned up to 1 job interview late, and that was due to an accident on route. I called as soon as I knew and told them - still got the job.
I've had to cancel 1 interview on the day, as I was in hospital. I still rung, explained, and the fact they heard the Nurse b
king me probably helped. Blanchimont said:
I'm on the cusp of Gen Z and Millennial (24) and can confirm there are them out there. But there are good ones!
I've turned up to 1 job interview late, and that was due to an accident on route. I called as soon as I knew and told them - still got the job.
I've had to cancel 1 interview on the day, as I was in hospital. I still rung, explained, and the fact they heard the Nurse bking me probably helped.
This is what I was getting at above. Anything to do with “generations” are huge generalisations usually made by at least the generation before if not the one before that which means they are 80% bullsI've turned up to 1 job interview late, and that was due to an accident on route. I called as soon as I knew and told them - still got the job.
I've had to cancel 1 interview on the day, as I was in hospital. I still rung, explained, and the fact they heard the Nurse b
king me probably helped. t when it comes to applying to an individual within that group. Amazes me how people are willing to bandy that kind of generation around “oh it’s because they are Millenials” etc but would be horrified with statements like “X is like they are because all black people are like that” or “Y is like that because they are gay and all gay people are like that”. Those that speak in those terms about generations are often ignorant of when a generation moves on too. There are many posts here about Millenials but a generation Z is not a millenial as you point out. Pothole said:
Flibble said:
Demanding people come in at a specific time is only going to get you dross who can afford to drop everything else at a moment's notice.
You have experience to back this up, do you?ETA: where did you get "at a moment's notice" from?
craigjm said:
To be fair the OP just said they had time on a day reserved and made no reference to how close that was to the interview offer. It could have been a couple of days or a couple of weeks. The more short the notice given though the more likely you are to get an outcome like the one described. You can’t blame a whole generation of people for the experience the OP had.
Of course you can't, nor have/would I. To be actually fair, if the OP didn't mention giving them short notice, it shouldn't be assumed, should it?
Pothole said:
craigjm said:
To be fair the OP just said they had time on a day reserved and made no reference to how close that was to the interview offer. It could have been a couple of days or a couple of weeks. The more short the notice given though the more likely you are to get an outcome like the one described. You can’t blame a whole generation of people for the experience the OP had.
Of course you can't, nor have/would I. To be actually fair, if the OP didn't mention giving them short notice, it shouldn't be assumed, should it?
Du1point8 said:
I wish Generation Z/millennials the very best of luck - they are creating an environment for themselves whilst students which bears no relation to the outside world.
The shock will be overwhelming when joining it - the world is not a "safe space" and there is accountability.
Didn’t we all do that? They are just doing it differently to how we did The shock will be overwhelming when joining it - the world is not a "safe space" and there is accountability.
I've just interviewed four candidates for an apprentice role. I asked if they had any questions for me and the last one who has just left school asked about the company car scheme and how much salary would he get once qualified. Even as a school boy I was taught when I had a job interview to ask about the role and steer clear of the "what's in it for me" type questions.
toon10 said:
I've just interviewed four candidates for an apprentice role. I asked if they had any questions for me and the last one who has just left school asked about the company car scheme and how much salary would he get once qualified. Even as a school boy I was taught when I had a job interview to ask about the role and steer clear of the "what's in it for me" type questions.
You were given trains at school around how to behave in a job interview? I never got anything like that at school or university and whilst, yes, I would agree that he shouldn’t have asked, if it’s for his first job and never been in that situation before how was he to know? Lots of this stuff is learnt along the way and sitting as an interviewer in our 40s plus for instance we shouldn’t make assumptions about what a graduate or younger knows about how interviews work. I have spent lots of time helping people prepare for job applications, interviews and assessment centres including many PH’ers into their 50s and you would be surprised what they don’t know.
I don’t think it’s to do with a particular generation. It’s just people. Some are organised and can keep appointments and have good work ethics and show respect for others. Others just don’t care. For me time keeping for a job interview is the bare minimum to expect. Unless something happened and i was unable to communicate my lateness. In 14 years I have never been late for work/interviews/etc. I also don’t let a small cough stop me from working unless is contagious for others. Sure appreciate snowstorms, earthquakes, RTCs can happen but I think early on its easy to spot the ones that want to work and have pride in doing the best they can. Those... paid them well!
Condi said:
Agree with a lot of this.
Some of the frustration with millenials is that having grown up with IT as part of our lives, we're generally quite lazy and can often see ways things could be automated, quicker and more efficient using technology. Meanwhile business' are stuck in the 'we've always done it this way' mentality, and 50 year old managers are either unaware, or unwilling to consider, alternatives.
Sorry, but some of us are far older than GenZs and have had the same 'why are people still doing this' question for some 30 years.Some of the frustration with millenials is that having grown up with IT as part of our lives, we're generally quite lazy and can often see ways things could be automated, quicker and more efficient using technology. Meanwhile business' are stuck in the 'we've always done it this way' mentality, and 50 year old managers are either unaware, or unwilling to consider, alternatives.
Along with, why are people in an office more than 2 days a week?
You 'kids' are just catching up with some of us, whilst we still struggle on with management who are younger than us, but have a 1950s mentality in working practices.
RTB said:
Is this an IT industry thing? I've interviewed 20 something science graduates within the Pharma industry and never had similar experiences. We have apprentices starting who are incredibly competent and hard working.
Lower end of the IT spectrum probably. It is an industry that at the front/service desk or 1st line support level that attracts a certain level of dross due to the "well I spend all day on facebook/fortnite/tumblr so I must know something about computers" sort of person.Having said that I've seen people far more qualified and educated than myself fail at basics such as turning up on time and even common decency such as letting people know they aren't coming.
IMO every generation has its problems it's just another one those "us" and "them" situations people use to enjoy trying to stereotype and label people.
RTB said:
Is this an IT industry thing? I've interviewed 20 something science graduates within the Pharma industry and never had similar experiences. We have apprentices starting who are incredibly competent and hard working.
I was speaking to someone last week who is hiring a permanent Java developer (London leading financial), has been a few months now.A lot of candidates don't turn up or cancel last minute - market forces are in favour of the job hunter was the assessment as a lot of demand,
boxedin said:
Condi said:
Agree with a lot of this.
Some of the frustration with millenials is that having grown up with IT as part of our lives, we're generally quite lazy and can often see ways things could be automated, quicker and more efficient using technology. Meanwhile business' are stuck in the 'we've always done it this way' mentality, and 50 year old managers are either unaware, or unwilling to consider, alternatives.
Sorry, but some of us are far older than GenZs and have had the same 'why are people still doing this' question for some 30 years.Some of the frustration with millenials is that having grown up with IT as part of our lives, we're generally quite lazy and can often see ways things could be automated, quicker and more efficient using technology. Meanwhile business' are stuck in the 'we've always done it this way' mentality, and 50 year old managers are either unaware, or unwilling to consider, alternatives.
Along with, why are people in an office more than 2 days a week?
You 'kids' are just catching up with some of us, whilst we still struggle on with management who are younger than us, but have a 1950s mentality in working practices.
I interviewed 4 people aged 21-23 this week. They all turned up on time (including one where I had to move it at a late stage) and some travelled a fair distance.
They all had their strengths and weaknesses as candidates, but they were all unfailingly generally polite and professional.
This time last year I interviewed 40 in a week*, and it was much the same story.
It's not all terrible out there.
* For anyone wondering, that's 8x1hr interviews a day, 5 days. Asking the same set of questions. Pretty quickly you learn what good/bad answers look like.
They all had their strengths and weaknesses as candidates, but they were all unfailingly generally polite and professional.
This time last year I interviewed 40 in a week*, and it was much the same story.
It's not all terrible out there.
* For anyone wondering, that's 8x1hr interviews a day, 5 days. Asking the same set of questions. Pretty quickly you learn what good/bad answers look like.
toon10 said:
I've just interviewed four candidates for an apprentice role. I asked if they had any questions for me and the last one who has just left school asked about the company car scheme and how much salary would he get once qualified. Even as a school boy I was taught when I had a job interview to ask about the role and steer clear of the "what's in it for me" type questions.
I was taught the same kind of thing and agree that - in this country in particular - talking about money is considered somewhat vulgar and is best avoided at a job interview. But the younger generations are challenging this sort of thing more and more, is it really unreasonable for someone to ask what they are likely to get longer term in exchange for the majority of their waking time?
When I was a graduate I approached interviews as though any hirer would be doing me a favour but I consider them two way conversations these days.
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