Call out payments ?
Discussion
R.Sole said:
J4CKO said:
Have drafted a similar email out based on that template and said will cover this week so as not to drop the other lad in it, will speak to my line manager on Monday and then send it based on his response. no point last knockings on a Friday as wont get read until Monday anyway.
Half the problem is knowing who to actually send it to, two sets of finance, two line managers, two sets of HR.
Ah,the poor other guy who’s getting paid!Half the problem is knowing who to actually send it to, two sets of finance, two line managers, two sets of HR.
You used the same excuse in the lead up to Xmas holidays and here you are after this next unpaid shift you are into February and this all started in June!
Iam sure the company thanks you for your understanding.
J4CKO said:
R.Sole said:
J4CKO said:
Have drafted a similar email out based on that template and said will cover this week so as not to drop the other lad in it, will speak to my line manager on Monday and then send it based on his response. no point last knockings on a Friday as wont get read until Monday anyway.
Half the problem is knowing who to actually send it to, two sets of finance, two line managers, two sets of HR.
Ah,the poor other guy who’s getting paid!Half the problem is knowing who to actually send it to, two sets of finance, two line managers, two sets of HR.
You used the same excuse in the lead up to Xmas holidays and here you are after this next unpaid shift you are into February and this all started in June!
Iam sure the company thanks you for your understanding.
xjay1337 said:
J4CKO said:
R.Sole said:
J4CKO said:
Have drafted a similar email out based on that template and said will cover this week so as not to drop the other lad in it, will speak to my line manager on Monday and then send it based on his response. no point last knockings on a Friday as wont get read until Monday anyway.
Half the problem is knowing who to actually send it to, two sets of finance, two line managers, two sets of HR.
Ah,the poor other guy who’s getting paid!Half the problem is knowing who to actually send it to, two sets of finance, two line managers, two sets of HR.
You used the same excuse in the lead up to Xmas holidays and here you are after this next unpaid shift you are into February and this all started in June!
Iam sure the company thanks you for your understanding.
My guess:
1 No-one budgeted for it
2 Different costs centres are trying to have teflon shoulders
3 Someone may have a (small) hole that may affect their accounts...
4 No business reason to push it as the service is still be delivered, so no need to flag it to higher management
OP, just send the email to resolve (4)
1 No-one budgeted for it
2 Different costs centres are trying to have teflon shoulders
3 Someone may have a (small) hole that may affect their accounts...
4 No business reason to push it as the service is still be delivered, so no need to flag it to higher management
OP, just send the email to resolve (4)
Repeating myself here; 'I told you so' and it gives me no pleasure in saying it again. Both sides are paying lip-service in resolving this as it suits their own particular agenda. Your legitimate claims to be paid are way down their priorities, barely registering in fact. Nothing happens unless you push and even then only the minimum is done as resolving this doesn't fit someone else's priorities.
You are not going to get this resolved until you force the issue and get the other guy on the rota making a noise, by withdrawing with immediate effect.
That's the only way this is getting escalated and you are too close to the problem to see that.
You are not going to get this resolved until you force the issue and get the other guy on the rota making a noise, by withdrawing with immediate effect.
That's the only way this is getting escalated and you are too close to the problem to see that.
vaud said:
My guess:
1 No-one budgeted for it
2 Different costs centres are trying to have teflon shoulders
3 Someone may have a (small) hole that may affect their accounts...
4 No business reason to push it as the service is still be delivered, so no need to flag it to higher management
OP, just send the email to resolve (4)
It not that it’s not budgeted for, previously there were two guys, one left to another business unit, carried on for a while but was travelling too much to continue.1 No-one budgeted for it
2 Different costs centres are trying to have teflon shoulders
3 Someone may have a (small) hole that may affect their accounts...
4 No business reason to push it as the service is still be delivered, so no need to flag it to higher management
OP, just send the email to resolve (4)
It’s been agreed by the section I am doing the cover for, I cleared it with my old manager and my new one is helping to sort it out.
The problem is they don’t know what to do, different systems and processes, would be easier if were entirely separate companies rather than bits of a bigger one.
I shouldn’t have to chase, I am going to ping my line manager and if I don’t get a satisfactory answer I send the email saying I will withdraw support.
It’s weird, it seems close, then another roadblock appears, it’s like ten names involved and nobody seems to know what to do.
It’s difficult to direct my ire as no real focal point, not really sure who does what, I don’t care, shouldn’t need to know. Feel like I may as well bark at the moon, if I could identify the right people it would be easier.
Gone on way too long now, I was told I would hear something today, but if you don’t hear by noon, I have learnt you won’t, that’s the culture, early dash on a Friday, may hang on to do stuff but generally done and dusted by one.
There is no ulterior motive or desire to wind me up, just them not coping with something they don’t normally do.
Christ, this is -still- going on? On the 11th you said you would withdraw unless it was sorted, and here we are on the 25th, with you still dithering about, and them still not paying you for your time.
All of the stuff above is simply Not Your Problem - no pay, no play. Use Vaud's email, it's fine.
Did you find out what sort of biscuits they had at the ever-so-productive meeting? I do hope it was hobnobs.
All of the stuff above is simply Not Your Problem - no pay, no play. Use Vaud's email, it's fine.
Did you find out what sort of biscuits they had at the ever-so-productive meeting? I do hope it was hobnobs.
t their pants vaud said:
TheAngryDog said:
That kind of email needs a backbone.
Feel free to suggest a (professional) alternative given the OP seems to be in a career rather than temporary role?J4CKO said:
It not that it’s not budgeted for, previously there were two guys, one left to another business unit, carried on for a while but was travelling too much to continue.
It’s been agreed by the section I am doing the cover for, I cleared it with my old manager and my new one is helping to sort it out.
The problem is they don’t know what to do, different systems and processes, would be easier if were entirely separate companies rather than bits of a bigger one.
I shouldn’t have to chase, I am going to ping my line manager and if I don’t get a satisfactory answer I send the email saying I will withdraw support.
It’s weird, it seems close, then another roadblock appears, it’s like ten names involved and nobody seems to know what to do.
It’s difficult to direct my ire as no real focal point, not really sure who does what, I don’t care, shouldn’t need to know. Feel like I may as well bark at the moon, if I could identify the right people it would be easier.
Gone on way too long now, I was told I would hear something today, but if you don’t hear by noon, I have learnt you won’t, that’s the culture, early dash on a Friday, may hang on to do stuff but generally done and dusted by one.
There is no ulterior motive or desire to wind me up, just them not coping with something they don’t normally do.
At this point I have to say you are getting exactly what you deserve.It’s been agreed by the section I am doing the cover for, I cleared it with my old manager and my new one is helping to sort it out.
The problem is they don’t know what to do, different systems and processes, would be easier if were entirely separate companies rather than bits of a bigger one.
I shouldn’t have to chase, I am going to ping my line manager and if I don’t get a satisfactory answer I send the email saying I will withdraw support.
It’s weird, it seems close, then another roadblock appears, it’s like ten names involved and nobody seems to know what to do.
It’s difficult to direct my ire as no real focal point, not really sure who does what, I don’t care, shouldn’t need to know. Feel like I may as well bark at the moon, if I could identify the right people it would be easier.
Gone on way too long now, I was told I would hear something today, but if you don’t hear by noon, I have learnt you won’t, that’s the culture, early dash on a Friday, may hang on to do stuff but generally done and dusted by one.
There is no ulterior motive or desire to wind me up, just them not coping with something they don’t normally do.
shtu said:
Christ, this is -still- going on? On the 11th you said you would withdraw unless it was sorted, and here we are on the 25th, with you still dithering about, and them still not paying you for your time.
All of the stuff above is simply Not Your Problem - no pay, no play. Use Vaud's email, it's fine.
Did you find out what sort of biscuits they had at the ever-so-productive meeting? I do hope it was hobnobs.
Well the problem is, stuff seems to be happening so seemed unnecessary so I defer, I send an email asking as to progress and get some feedback so hang on.All of the stuff above is simply Not Your Problem - no pay, no play. Use Vaud's email, it's fine.
Did you find out what sort of biscuits they had at the ever-so-productive meeting? I do hope it was hobnobs.
It has gone on way too, so not taking any notice of who is speaking to who and just send what I have drafted as to be honest I dont give a toss about the ins and outs of the finance and HR side, like they dont give a toss why their database isnt working, they just want it fixed, and I expect they wouldnt wait four months whilst I fanny about having meetings about it.
I dont want to wait for the next payroll, they can pay it and sort the movement of money in the background, may mention lodging a grievance as I have been treated shoddily.
May just withdraw from the rota anyway, too much agro, I want the money paying monthly as part of my normal pay, not when they can get around to it after months of procrastination.
langtounlad said:
lol, you are starting to sound as angry we feel on your behalf :-0
Yes, am thoroughly pissed off with it now, its taking too long, its taking too much of my time trying to chivvy people on and was pretty busy last week, then people arent around, you get to the end of the day and realise nothing has happened, some dont even reply which is just bloody ignorant.Well, sent the email requesting payment this week and have said I will cover this week but cannot do any further stints until I have been paid.
I said I shouldn’t have to worry about the inter department recharges, I work for the company, the company needs to pay me, how that happens doesn’t matter to me.
I said I shouldn’t have to worry about the inter department recharges, I work for the company, the company needs to pay me, how that happens doesn’t matter to me.
J4CKO said:
Well, sent the email requesting payment this week and have said I will cover this week but cannot do any further stints until I have been paid.
I said I shouldn’t have to worry about the inter department recharges, I work for the company, the company needs to pay me, how that happens doesn’t matter to me.
That'll show em. Expect money plus compensation within nanoseconds... I said I shouldn’t have to worry about the inter department recharges, I work for the company, the company needs to pay me, how that happens doesn’t matter to me.
wiggy001 said:
J4CKO said:
Well, sent the email requesting payment this week and have said I will cover this week but cannot do any further stints until I have been paid.
I said I shouldn’t have to worry about the inter department recharges, I work for the company, the company needs to pay me, how that happens doesn’t matter to me.
That'll show em. Expect money plus compensation within nanoseconds... I said I shouldn’t have to worry about the inter department recharges, I work for the company, the company needs to pay me, how that happens doesn’t matter to me.
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