Reclaiming expenses from an outgoing employee

Reclaiming expenses from an outgoing employee

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Fugawi

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59 posts

90 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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My line of thinking was to say, "Given the opportunity, I would not re employ this person" (stated verbally only)

It's honest but says enough.

"I refuse to give a reference" suggests similar I guess?

Edited by Fugawi on Tuesday 18th February 21:38

elanfan

5,520 posts

227 months

Tuesday 18th February 2020
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Establish you are not being recorded first, then ask do you mind some plain speaking then - he’s a thieving barstard?

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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bad company said:
elanfan said:
janesmith1950 said:
bad company said:
I understand where your coming from but if the information the op gives is factual and accurate what’s the problem?
Why open yourself up to "he said, she said"? There are lots of potential downsides and no corresponding upsides.
The upside is the pleasure of knowing you’ve likely fked up a job application - fully deserved imho.
Agree but JaneSmith’s comments are valid. I’d be tempted to answer they questions factually and honestly but verbally, not in writing.
You can't refuse to give a reference. However that need only state, title, name, tenure. You don't have to answer any questions posed to you but if you say anything negative to 'teach them a lesson' even if true, you open yourself up to a tribunal.
Regarding the OP's card issues. Legally you can not just deduct the spending (I know it sounds daft) but that's the law. It's a grey area.
My wife is an HR Director at a tech company (not powerfully built). I hear a lot about what the little darlings get up to and i'm always saying, sack them, deduct the cash!! But no, you can't. Well you can and may get away with it but tread carefully.

loskie

5,221 posts

120 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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bks of course you can: just don't respond.

Fugawi

Original Poster:

59 posts

90 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Difficult to prove negative comments if only mentioned verbally.


I believe you can deduct it if the individual authorises you too. On this occasion he refused but later paid the debts when he was invoiced.

Countdown

39,895 posts

196 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Burwood said:
Regarding the OP's card issues. Legally you can not just deduct the spending (I know it sounds daft) but that's the law. It's a grey area.
Only if the policy is vague. Our Company credit card holders sign a document which says that if they spend money on stuff they’re not supposed to we recover it from their salary. [The document does have pretty clear guidance on what IS and ISN’T considered business expenditure]

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Countdown said:
Burwood said:
Regarding the OP's card issues. Legally you can not just deduct the spending (I know it sounds daft) but that's the law. It's a grey area.
Only if the policy is vague. Our Company credit card holders sign a document which says that if they spend money on stuff they’re not supposed to we recover it from their salary. [The document does have pretty clear guidance on what IS and ISN’T considered business expenditure]
Agreed