Women uncomfortable with transgender employee in toilet
Discussion
Alan535 said:
Munter said:
DanL said:
As for our friend Alan, without wanting to stereotype, one presumes he’s both old and uneducated.
I'm picturing a Ronnie Pickering type.Try again,i started out like you but can see the damage this behaviour is doing to society globally
and will confront it.I am neither old nor ron pickering and have lived and worked abroad.,not that its you concern,or has anything to do with this subject.
DanL said:
Would be curious as to the age of those “uncomfortable” with this vs. those who don’t have a problem with the situation...
As for our friend Alan, without wanting to stereotype, one presumes he’s both old and uneducated.
Mid 50's, and I don't have a problem.As for our friend Alan, without wanting to stereotype, one presumes he’s both old and uneducated.
My daughter is 18 and she suffered from social anxiety so won't use unisex toilets at Uni. She feels vulnerable.
Pothole said:
I work with two. One is pretty much as you describe and a kind, genuinely empathetic and caring person. The other isn't, but appears not to have settled into herself yet. Neither has caused any issue among their female colleagues either over toilets or changing rooms (we have to change into uniform before shifts start) Maybe my colleagues are just nicer people than the OP's, who knows?
I worked with one - quite an objectionable little s
t to be honest. Then again I've worked with lots of objectionable sts before non of them were trans - sts are sts regardless of their bits or tastes/proclivities.I'll admit that I don't understand the whole trans thing - nor do I want to. If, however, I was to work with one again I'd be polite because I'd want (and expect) people to be polite to me to.
vixen1700 said:
Wow! What a fuc king weirdo. 
Oooff, that's a month's worth of ban or i'm a fluid gendered person who identifies as a man from the Netherlandsyou can't speak to people like that and expect to get away with it,
unless, hold on,
unless that poster has thousands of posts , surely not ?
stinkyspanner said:
Surely if you have one person in the office making a sizeable proportion of the staff uncomfortable then the individual is the problem?
You could have said this for gay men in the workplace at some point in the past. Or disabled people.. or women.Trans people are not a problem. Repeat that to yourself a hundred times or so until it sinks in.
Educate the people with the problem. Trans people are protected by law for a reason, the people complaining should be told in no uncertain terms their attitude is not acceptable and they'll have to change it.
stinkyspanner said:
Surely if you have one person in the office making a sizeable proportion of the staff uncomfortable then the individual is the problem?
Replace this situation with someone black or gay.Is the individual still the problem?
Sometimes people, in this case the group, need to just realise they are the issue.
Tim2k9 said:
Why would you want to use the toilet with the bigger queue.
And on that topic, none of the females at a concert seemed to have any shame in using the male urinals when their queue was out the door.
I think this is an age/generation thing.And on that topic, none of the females at a concert seemed to have any shame in using the male urinals when their queue was out the door.
As per the above, I have been stood at a urinal numerous times in a bar/club/concert when in walks a girl who then proceeds to comment that the ladies toilets are too busy, before using a urinal to relieve herself. Absolutely no one seems to care.
Far from running away screaming, those same girls will stand in the ladies toilets chatting to trans woman about makeup etc.
The older generation aren’t quite as relaxed about it all, which I can understand.
Just remember that my generation grew up with the 1996 film Trainspotting:
“ In a thousand years, there will be no men and women, just w
kers, and that's fine by me”Quite the prophecy.
megaphone said:
A place I visit had mixed toilets with cubicles, they have recently labelled the cubicles M & F as the ladies moaned about piss all over the seats etc.
I’ve had signs put up in the toilets at work reminding people of appropriate etiquette in the toilets. They are to be flushed, left clean, any “slips” cleaned up, and reception are to be told if any of the supplies are running low.Some people still seem to choose to piss on the rim, seat, or floor, and leave it, and it’ll be treated as a disciplinary matter if it could ever be proven who’s doing that.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:stinkyspanner said:
Surely if you have one person in the office making a sizeable proportion of the staff uncomfortable then the individual is the problem?
Replace this situation with someone black or gay.Is the individual still the problem?
Sometimes people, in this case the group, need to just realise they are the issue.
Using the ladies is something that the transgender person chooses to do. Being transgender is not a problem with them. If the women objected to the transgender person working there at all, then they would be a problem - their issue is that a person merely has to identify as female and they have access to the loos, changing rooms, showers etc. The law supports that action.
Only females should use the ladies loos - the transgender person is not female - this has been confirmed on their birth certificate.
So the transgender person has chosen to do something which the majority of people object to.
Now change transgender to black and see where the problem lies - it doesn't lie with the person being black but what they are doing.
Leylandeye said:
Using the ladies is something that the transgender person chooses to do. Being transgender is not a problem with them. If the women objected to the transgender person working there at all, then they would be a problem - their issue is that a person merely has to identify as female and they have access to the loos, changing rooms, showers etc. The law supports that action.
Only females should use the ladies loos - the transgender person is not female - this has been confirmed on their birth certificate.
So the transgender person has chosen to do something which the majority of people object to.
Now change transgender to black and see where the problem lies - it doesn't lie with the person being black but what they are doing.
It's 2020.Only females should use the ladies loos - the transgender person is not female - this has been confirmed on their birth certificate.
So the transgender person has chosen to do something which the majority of people object to.
Now change transgender to black and see where the problem lies - it doesn't lie with the person being black but what they are doing.
Stop making excuses for poor behaviour.
Leylandeye said:
I'm putting forward a point of view for discussion and the year isn't important but the accepted morals of our society are.
The year is important because the accepted morals of our society change over time.Women get the vote now but try having that conversation in 1900 and it would have been viewed very differently.
Times change.
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