The "I've been furloughed" Thread

The "I've been furloughed" Thread

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SAS Tom

3,403 posts

174 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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I’ve been furloughed for the next 2 weeks. Expecting a letter from the company detailing what exactly is going to happen.

Like many here I’m concerned more about what will be left when I return. We dropped down to about a quarter of capacity within the space of a week. Mainly due to customers closing for the period. Hopefully once they’re working we will be too.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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rustfalia said:
Currently off but being paid 100%.
This will be under review by the company in a few weeks time.
Expecting then to drop to 80%.
TBH I reckon 20% of my pay goes to my local pub, so I should be ok.

Geffg

1,130 posts

105 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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Had an email last week saying being paid 100% but then today another email saying most us will have to be furloughed and we will find out who in the next day or so. Most of our customers are closed as we do reactive maintenance to various commercial businesses. It was expected as last week I done 3 jobs all week instead of 3 - 4 a day and most others didn’t do any jobs at all.
The 80% is better than nothing and hopefully still have a job when all back to normal which is the main thing. Only problem is my basic just covers my bills and always earn overtime. So I’ll be roughly £400 down on my bills! I’m hoping I’m chosen to stay in work. Can’t even say I’ll save on travel as got a company van. But main thing is we all get through it and I still have a job.
Gonna be a lot of people a lot worse off than myself one way or another so can’t complain too much.

Fast Bug

11,689 posts

161 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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As I understand it the minimum period you can be furloughed for is 3 weeks.

Well according to the letters both my wife and I have had from our respective employers it is any way.

Jasey_

4,869 posts

178 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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Fast Bug said:
As I understand it the minimum period you can be furloughed for is 3 weeks.
This is correct.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/claim-for-wage-costs-t...

"You can only submit one claim at least every 3 weeks, which is the minimum length an employee can be furloughed for. Claims can be backdated until the 1 March if applicable."

Red 5

1,055 posts

180 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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Yup I have.
PAYE as normal in full for March tomorrow, then onto 80%

The only thing my employer hasn’t told me, is 80% of average total earnings, or 80% of basic.
As my wage is 30/40% commission, I could be in trouble here.

Has anyone had this cleared up please?

HorneyMX5

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5,309 posts

150 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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Mine is basic, so no commission or car allowance.

MarkGolf

48 posts

205 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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Very interested to know more, I've read a fair bit today and basically commission disappears.

I received an email today preparing us all for a telephone meeting tomorrow where all of this will be explained to us and that I have been put forward to furlough. What the heck is that word before today.

I am pretty concerned, my basic makes up about 30% of my average monthly pay, commission making up the rest. So I am in for a rough couple months, I was loosely told that the company will be paying 100%, so 80% from the grant and 20% from the company, OK, that's nice. BUT, what is bugging me is, the services we provide are still being paid for as they are essential to the businesses using them, currently, we have not heard of anyone not paying us, so with blinkers on, our business is currently running as normal. So, are my employers taking advantage of this time and the 80% grant where they can pay me minimum while pocketing what I would normally get in commission or are they pre-empting the worst, I don't know. I don't know what to think to be honest, as it has hit home a little bit and given me a shock.

With furlough, I will get my basic in full but NO commission, that is going to be a tough pill to swallow on the call tomorrow, if I know we are still getting paid for the services which contribute to my commission, can I kick off? II appreciate that I am I lucky to be on furlough and still have a job but when you know payments are still coming in where I would take a slice, how can I ignore that and settle for my basic?

I have not signed anything yet to agree with going on furlough but the alternative is to not sign up and risk redundancy.

JB89

45 posts

131 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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Been furloughed for almost a week now, down to 80% and the company doesn’t have any plans to top up.

Missus also in the same boat (work for the same firm). We’re ok in terms of monthly outgoings (for now) with what we’ll receive but the company seemed to be struggling this year as it was and redundancies had been on the cards before this, therefore whether or not we’ll still have a job in the summer is playing on our minds. On the plus side I had been pursuing purchasing a franchise just prior to this, think if I’d been a month earlier I would of been in a much worse situation.

Digby

8,239 posts

246 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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Interesting times in camp Digby. I have been furloffed (I pronounce it that way to wind the other half up) and our company are making up the 20%.

Mrs Digby was made redundant after 28 years a few months ago before all this and secured another job which she was due to start on April 1st.
Due to most at that company now wfh, she was sent a laptop to begin training etc.

Now, however, they are saying they are having to push the start date back (no idea to when) so it would appear that she will not be getting paid
until they decide to let her start. This is despite paperwork being signed etc.

In other news, my Brother who is high risk due to having pulmonary sarcoidosis is now living on his own because his wife who works at the NHS is in self-isolation in staff accommodation, possibly for twelve weeks, due to having a high temp and a cough.

If he gets it, there's a good chance he won't make it. They were also both at my parents not too long ago.

He's currently working from home but has been told some will be furloughed, but that there is likely to be redundancies, too.

Strange to think a few months ago we were all together, celebrating my Birthday and suddenly, the entire world is upside down for almost everyone.




kuro

1,621 posts

119 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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Closed for at least two weeks last Thursday on 80% but saving about £200 a month on fuel so not too bad. I had been working from home anyway but enquiries were slowing and materials and distribution problems were looming. I didn't ask about the long term effects, I'm just happy to sit tight and see how it pans out for now.

Partner has two part time admin jobs. Computer services still going and she's working from home. The other is a Cosmetic surgery which has closed and furloughed from that for now.

Edited by kuro on Monday 30th March 22:04

Super Slo Mo

5,368 posts

198 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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Our industry (live televised sports) has been decimated, the company I work for has no income or work whatsoever now. We still have jobs on the books for later in the year, but there’s still a chance they will get cut down in scale or cancelled altogether.
Pretty much the entire company will be furloughed on Wednesday I reckon, other than a very small number of people to keep the admin ticking over.
It’s a big pay cut but my outgoings are currently minimal and at least it’s still income. Wife will remain employed but working from home so we are relatively lucky.
However, most people in our industry are freelance working through limited companies at the insistence of the broadcasters, so they have been royally screwed by this as they have very little support from the government either.



RammyMP

6,771 posts

153 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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I’ve got a feeling it’s coming my way, the project I’m working on looks like it’s going to be put on hold for 3 months and the job needs to shed staff.

JungTheForeman

60 posts

87 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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HASHTAG metoo

It could be so much worse... I only started the job on the 6th of January and my probatory period ends 6th April... so I've been a bit twitchy.

Anyway, company well happy with my work so far and they're gonna rush through approval or whatever it is tomorrow. Looking at how many projects were dropped 2-3 weeks ago it's no surprise really. I just hope it doesn't mean the end for my job as I bloody love it (after 6 years of a toxic workplace). :/

Vanden Saab

14,086 posts

74 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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clockworks said:
I'm self-employed (no work at all coming in right now) so it's not me that's been furloughed.

A friend has been working from home (admin and accounts) for the past week and a half, but her employer - a building company - called her this morning to tell her that they are shutting up shop until the restrictions are lifted and we start getting back to normal. They are sorting out the furlough pay for her, which is fair enough.

Thing is, she has only worked there for 2 months, and is currently on a 3 months agency contract with the promise of a permanent job at the end of that period. Kind of a probation period with no risk to the employer if it doesn't work out.

Seems like a pretty decent employer to keep her on the books rather than just terminating the agency contract.
I am self-employed (sole trader) and no work so in effect furloughed at 80%. Are we allowed here OP?

HorneyMX5

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5,309 posts

150 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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Vanden Saab said:
I am self-employed (sole trader) and no work so in effect furloughed at 80%. Are we allowed here OP?
Of course, we all need help, advice and some glimmers of hope!

340600

552 posts

143 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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Another one here. Furloughed from the 1st at 80% without a top-up from my employer. It’s actually a 23% loss taking the car allowance into account. Luckily I can cover my outgoings fairly easily, disposable will be drastically reduced, but as others have said with no pubs or restaurants to blow it in then that’s not a huge problem!

A bit peeved as my manager had me lined up as his successor to a team of 7, but chose to retain two others instead. Fed me some bullst about the decision “coming from the top” when I questioned it. I suspect he’s trying to justify own position - such is life. As long as we all have a job to go back to at the end of it that’s all we can ask for.

Drive it fix it repeat

1,046 posts

51 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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Yep, last day was last Wednesday. Small business with only 1 employee (me). Money wise clearly it's not optimal but could be a bloody site worse, shouldn't be too bad as dont have travelling expenses, wont be upgrading the work toolkit, not eating out or socialising, just sold the car so not paying for that. Worst case scenario I'll be in the same financial position I was when I was working 50 hours a week so not too bad I guess. The main worry is how long the business has to be shut and whether we can get up and running again. Also trying not to go completely licking the windows mental being stuck in, 5 days in and struggling already.

parabolica

6,718 posts

184 months

Monday 30th March 2020
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TopGear7 said:
In terms of furlough; does the company have to furlough all staff doing Role X. Or could they furlough 50% and keep the other 50% on?

Just asking as quite confused by what my company is doing. Business is down by nearly 60%. However all workforce still running as per normal. In a way I'm pleased because it means business evidently has enough reserves in the bank to keep going as per normal, but it would make sense to furlough 30% (maybe those with kids, would make their lives easier juggling home schooling + work) and just cover the 20%. Everyone wins - ?
According to our lawyers you can furlough part of the workforce and keep the others working, but selection must be fair and justified and explained. I.e. someone works exclusively on a project that can no longer continue vs someone else on the same title who covers multiple project and still has work.

crofty1984

15,859 posts

204 months

Tuesday 31st March 2020
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My wife has been furloughed, she's not taking it well. I'm working from home but can see me getting furloughed after April if it goes on. We've already given up half our holiday "as a gesture to the business" to be allowed to work from home on full pay, even though our workload has fallen.