The "I've been furloughed" Thread

The "I've been furloughed" Thread

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RammyMP

6,784 posts

154 months

Friday 26th June 2020
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page3 said:
We’ve just been told we must take 50% of our holiday allowance by end July. A tad annoying as I’ve been on a project where we had holiday banned between October 2019 and May 2020!
We’ve been told the same, I’m taking the last 2 weeks of July off. Now things are slowly reopening I might try and get away somewhere in the UK but I think everyone will have the same idea!

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 26th June 2020
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skwdenyer said:
page3 said:
We’ve just been told we must take 50% of our holiday allowance by end July. A tad annoying as I’ve been on a project where we had holiday banned between October 2019 and May 2020!
I’m not an employment law expert, but that sounds like (depending upon the amounts involved) potentially too little notice for compulsory holiday?
The employer has to give double the time of the enforced holiday as notice.

So if they want you to take 1 week, 2 weeks notice is required, if they want you to take 2 weeks, its 4 weeks notice.

anxious_ant

2,626 posts

80 months

Friday 26th June 2020
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I suppose it boils down to what's more important at the moment. Having holidays or having a job?

Pit Pony

8,655 posts

122 months

Friday 26th June 2020
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I had a nice phone call on Tuesday asking me if i could attend an interview Friday (today)

I had to explain I was in a hospital bed having had a suspected heart attack.


Jasandjules

69,947 posts

230 months

Saturday 27th June 2020
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Pit Pony said:
I had to explain I was in a hospital bed having had a suspected heart attack.
Hope you are ok.

FreeLitres

6,051 posts

178 months

Saturday 27th June 2020
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Anyone looking to make use of the flexible furlough option in July? i.e. coming back a few days a week?

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 27th June 2020
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I know this sounds terrible.... but can i get some feedback.

But I'm thinking of using flexible furlough for an employee who is at high risk (80%) of redundancy. Other staff can cope with the work, but it would make things a bit more relaxed. At no extra cost for us.

Is this taking the piss? Should I be honest? He seems keen on returning.... but seems a bit misleading.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Saturday 27th June 2020
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sambucket said:
I know this sounds terrible.... but can i get some feedback.

But I'm thinking of using flexible furlough for an employee who is at high risk (80%) of redundancy. Other staff can cope with the work, but it would make things a bit more relaxed. At no extra cost for us.

Is this taking the piss? Should I be honest? He seems keen on returning.... but seems a bit misleading.
Tell him, unofficially, he will have to be made redundant in a few months (say 3) but place him on Furlough until then.

No affect to you as a business. But gives him plenty of notice. Morally it's the best thing for him and business wise it makes no ends.. There is also a possible benefit that he may find a new job and leave without you having to pay redundancy.

That's at least what I would do.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 27th June 2020
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I'd rather be told the truth as soon as possible, rather than be left in the dark.

If you can give him some advanced warning whilst still supporting him as best legally allowed, then thats the best you can do.

This is of course only applicable if you can trust the guy to not damage the business if he knows he is going. If he is that kind of personality then you dont have the option to be helpful.

Pit Pony

8,655 posts

122 months

Saturday 27th June 2020
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Jasandjules said:
Pit Pony said:
I had to explain I was in a hospital bed having had a suspected heart attack.
Hope you are ok.
I had an angiagram and a stent fitted and am back home with lots of different tablets


Onelastattempt

398 posts

48 months

Saturday 27th June 2020
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Pit Pony said:
I had an angiagram and a stent fitted and am back home with lots of different tablets
I had same two years ago, started off taking 5 different tablets a day , now down to two. Get a checkup once a year for arrhythmia and leaking heart valve but had no problems since and everything seems to be stabilised. Back at work as normal, CNC programming/ machining ,just feel a bit more tired sometimes from side effects of tablets.
You will be back to normal soon.

skwdenyer

16,536 posts

241 months

Saturday 27th June 2020
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xjay1337 said:
Tell him, unofficially, he will have to be made redundant in a few months (say 3) but place him on Furlough until then.

No affect to you as a business. But gives him plenty of notice. Morally it's the best thing for him and business wise it makes no ends.. There is also a possible benefit that he may find a new job and leave without you having to pay redundancy.

That's at least what I would do.
Someone I know just made 17 people redundant. Is keeping them all on until furlough ends (subject to them taking all accrued leave during that time) - gives them 4 months to find another job, but costs him much less than it would otherwise have done to pay usual notice. In his case I don’t think many if any were due any statutory redundancy, just notice and accrued holiday.

Not ideal, but making the best of a bad situation.

BMR

944 posts

179 months

Sunday 28th June 2020
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Starting another 2 weeks of furlough tomorrow. Did all of May and was back at work all of June, whilst the other half were off.

Work hasn’t picked up as much as my employer was thinking. I’m not terribly surprised as we are working in people’s homes and they aren’t exactly having to pay for what we do (metering)

worsy

5,815 posts

176 months

Sunday 28th June 2020
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BMR said:
Starting another 2 weeks of furlough tomorrow. Did all of May and was back at work all of June, whilst the other half were off.

Work hasn’t picked up as much as my employer was thinking. I’m not terribly surprised as we are working in people’s homes and they aren’t exactly having to pay for what we do (metering)
Errm, you can't start Furlough now, it closed two week ago.

Edit - As you were, just read the latest guidance which allows it. By God it's a complex set of rules.


Edited by worsy on Sunday 28th June 21:10

fiatpower

3,048 posts

172 months

Sunday 28th June 2020
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worsy said:
Errm, you can't start Furlough now, it closed two week ago.
I believe you can if you've already been on it previously.

StevenB

777 posts

198 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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fiatpower said:
worsy said:
Errm, you can't start Furlough now, it closed two week ago.
I believe you can if you've already been on it previously.
But it has to be for 3 weeks ?

cossy400

3,165 posts

185 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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StevenB said:
fiatpower said:
worsy said:
Errm, you can't start Furlough now, it closed two week ago.
I believe you can if you've already been on it previously.
But it has to be for 3 weeks ?
Nope now you can do a week at a time if you wish or even go back to work part time in July. Its only the initial furlough that has to be 3 weeks.

PorkRind

3,053 posts

206 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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I've been furloughed since April 1st and my directors are being vague about what's going ok which isn't far from reassuring. I think the scheme changes to 60% from govt and your company has to make up the 40% , does that sound about right ?! Been looking around and what i do is quite unique, they want architecture level people and Im not quite there so no chances of going for that. Pretty bleak situation isn't it!

Algarve

2,102 posts

82 months

Monday 29th June 2020
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PorkRind said:
I've been furloughed since April 1st and my directors are being vague about what's going ok which isn't far from reassuring. I think the scheme changes to 60% from govt and your company has to make up the 40% , does that sound about right ?! Been looking around and what i do is quite unique, they want architecture level people and Im not quite there so no chances of going for that. Pretty bleak situation isn't it!
details are here - https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/changes...

From August your employer needs to start putting their hand in their own pocket - at that point we'll start to see who's really got jobs to go back to.

Ninja59

3,691 posts

113 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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MD messaged me today wants to have a chat about my furlough.

I strongly suspect she won't pay in August when it changes.

Lucky for me I am in the final running for the job I have previously discussed (they struggled to make a pool of candidates, mostly because people failed to research them or the industry properly - amazing).

And also have an interview with the first company I worked for same role, JD is significantly different and a few k rise.