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spikeyhead said:
Monkeylegend said:
Agreed, it is the sort of thing that could end up with the CV being pushed to one side on the "not for us" pile.
When I was recruiting in a much earlier life, we would get many applications for an advertised role, and the first thing we did was to sift through looking for any reason to reduce the pile of possibilities to avoid wasting ours and their time, and poor spelling and grammar was up there as a reason to cast aside.
I once put a CV on the "NO" pile as the word eclectic had been used incorrectly. When you've got a pile of CVs a foot high and only a couple of vacancies, it doesn't take much of an error for them to get tossed.When I was recruiting in a much earlier life, we would get many applications for an advertised role, and the first thing we did was to sift through looking for any reason to reduce the pile of possibilities to avoid wasting ours and their time, and poor spelling and grammar was up there as a reason to cast aside.
Like it or not the advice of attention to detail was correct and offered in the best possible manner I’m sure.
When I get a CV I thoroughly check spelling and grammar to confirm if the candidate is literate. If you’re going to be sending emails and communicating on our behalf I want to know we’re going to be seen as I think we should. I’ve had one CV not too many years ago with some sentences written in text speak.......gr8 job.......needless to say he didn’t get an interview!
OP, I’m guessing it was a simple oversight and the iPhone/pad/tablet is great at changing a word you don’t want it too!
I’m sure you’ll be fine however double check your CV and make sure you don’t waffle or bulls
t. The number of times candidates have come unstuck having written a sentence, bullet point, quoting figures or salary earned which makes them sound like superman/woman/top of the tree and with a little delving they are actually nothing of the sort and it’s just a little embarrassing and there’s nothing worse IMO.
When I get a CV I thoroughly check spelling and grammar to confirm if the candidate is literate. If you’re going to be sending emails and communicating on our behalf I want to know we’re going to be seen as I think we should. I’ve had one CV not too many years ago with some sentences written in text speak.......gr8 job.......needless to say he didn’t get an interview!
OP, I’m guessing it was a simple oversight and the iPhone/pad/tablet is great at changing a word you don’t want it too!
I’m sure you’ll be fine however double check your CV and make sure you don’t waffle or bulls
t. The number of times candidates have come unstuck having written a sentence, bullet point, quoting figures or salary earned which makes them sound like superman/woman/top of the tree and with a little delving they are actually nothing of the sort and it’s just a little embarrassing and there’s nothing worse IMO.Edited by HoHoHo on Friday 10th July 12:02
Drl22 said:
timbo999 said:
And rigorously check your spelling. Advise is what you do, advice is what you get...
Always one who has to be “that guy”.Most people type here on their phones so chill out.
When I was recruiting, poor spelling, punctuation and grammar made for an easy first paper sift.
Pothole said:
Drl22 said:
timbo999 said:
And rigorously check your spelling. Advise is what you do, advice is what you get...
Always one who has to be “that guy”.Most people type here on their phones so chill out.
When I was recruiting, poor spelling, punctuation and grammar made for an easy first paper sift.
Twig62 said:
I have been placed at risk of redundancy today so am looking at updating my CV. I have been in my current job since 2006 and held the previous one was from 2000-2006. Do I need to go back any further than this ? I will only be applying for administrative roles not anything where there may be security issues !
No any jobs before that should just be listed as Start and end date
Job title
Company
Location
All on one line only for each job so
Jan 2010 - Feb 2012 Dogsbody Company A London
ARHarh said:
This exactly. How is the applicant going to do a good job and care about what they do if they can't be bothered to check the spelling on their CV. Especially these days when most computers underline the spelling mistakes with a "squiggly red line". I understand that not all people can spell well, and some jobs may not need need good language skills, but spotting "squiggly red lines" can be done by most people.
Indeed - and you should give your CV to someone else to proof read, just in case you have missed a clanger. spikeyhead said:
Monkeylegend said:
Agreed, it is the sort of thing that could end up with the CV being pushed to one side on the "not for us" pile.
When I was recruiting in a much earlier life, we would get many applications for an advertised role, and the first thing we did was to sift through looking for any reason to reduce the pile of possibilities to avoid wasting ours and their time, and poor spelling and grammar was up there as a reason to cast aside.
I once put a CV on the "NO" pile as the word eclectic had been used incorrectly. When you've got a pile of CVs a foot high and only a couple of vacancies, it doesn't take much of an error for them to get tossed.When I was recruiting in a much earlier life, we would get many applications for an advertised role, and the first thing we did was to sift through looking for any reason to reduce the pile of possibilities to avoid wasting ours and their time, and poor spelling and grammar was up there as a reason to cast aside.
Screening on the odd spellig and grandma error, is a little extreme... unless you're after an editor.
take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey said:
spikeyhead said:
Monkeylegend said:
Agreed, it is the sort of thing that could end up with the CV being pushed to one side on the "not for us" pile.
When I was recruiting in a much earlier life, we would get many applications for an advertised role, and the first thing we did was to sift through looking for any reason to reduce the pile of possibilities to avoid wasting ours and their time, and poor spelling and grammar was up there as a reason to cast aside.
I once put a CV on the "NO" pile as the word eclectic had been used incorrectly. When you've got a pile of CVs a foot high and only a couple of vacancies, it doesn't take much of an error for them to get tossed.When I was recruiting in a much earlier life, we would get many applications for an advertised role, and the first thing we did was to sift through looking for any reason to reduce the pile of possibilities to avoid wasting ours and their time, and poor spelling and grammar was up there as a reason to cast aside.
Screening on the odd spellig and grandma error, is a little extreme... unless you're after an editor.
I suspect that had the technical part of his CV been excellent I might have overlooked that, but it was average, and when the pile of CVs is a foot high and I only had two vacancies, then it's a no from me.
A few years later, we held an open day, widely advertising for anyone with any technical skills who was interested in working for us to come along and chat. It was very successful because those that were recruited were people with sufficient technical skills to add to the team and were also people we wanted to work with. It made me realise just how important soft skills are and they are very difficult to pick up from a CV.
take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey said:
Screening on the odd spellig and grandma error, is a little extreme... unless you're after an editor.
Maybe but the reality is that when you are faced with a pile of CV's you look for ways to reduce these to a manageable level and you very quickly establish ways of sifting out the less able and poor grammar and spelling is one of those ways.When you do it often enough you get a feel for these things and a well presented CV with no spelling mistakes indicates a person who exercises care and attention to detail.
It is sheer stupidity not to do a spell and grammar check on something your future could depend on.
You can continue to say it is only minor and does not matter but you are doing yourself a disservice by adopting this approach.
Maybe though in this modern world where many would struggle to even write a letter it no longer matters.
Any grammar and spelling mistakes in this post are there deliberately for the grammar nazis to pick up on
Pothole said:
craigjm said:
Why does every PH thread have to go down a pedantic rabbit hole?
Because the thickies refuse to learn, choosing to whine about being picked on instead. People like you choose to take their side.If it’s mentioned once that grammar and spelling are important there is no need for a thread to go on and on about it and repeat itself.
Edited by craigjm on Friday 10th July 15:57
Best bit of advice/feedback I was given around CV's was to show how you added value/affected an outcome, rather than just a list of tasks, if you do project work, split some items out to ensure you show skills required etc & also the scale of your experience.
Although, IT consultant so might not be entirely applicable depending on the job type/level you are applying for, it might make someone look twice though.
For an quick example of this (not admin specific sorry!)
Original:
Job/Client XYZ - 6 months - IT Transformation / Project manger
- Stakeholder management
- Task management
- Project Financials management
Revised:
Job/Client XYZ - 6 months - IT Transformation / Project manger
- Reported to senior stakeholders, including fortnightly steering groups & presenting recommendations on XYZ
- Managed delivery, ensured tasks allocated to team ensuring workloads were manageable per sprint (Agile working example)
- Managed £5m project budget and delivered the project under budget, by identifying opportunities to reduce cost e.g. efficient SME usage.
But, dont make it overly wordy for no reason!
Although, IT consultant so might not be entirely applicable depending on the job type/level you are applying for, it might make someone look twice though.
For an quick example of this (not admin specific sorry!)
Original:
Job/Client XYZ - 6 months - IT Transformation / Project manger
- Stakeholder management
- Task management
- Project Financials management
Revised:
Job/Client XYZ - 6 months - IT Transformation / Project manger
- Reported to senior stakeholders, including fortnightly steering groups & presenting recommendations on XYZ
- Managed delivery, ensured tasks allocated to team ensuring workloads were manageable per sprint (Agile working example)
- Managed £5m project budget and delivered the project under budget, by identifying opportunities to reduce cost e.g. efficient SME usage.
But, dont make it overly wordy for no reason!
craigjm said:
Pothole said:
craigjm said:
Why does every PH thread have to go down a pedantic rabbit hole?
Because the thickies refuse to learn, choosing to whine about being picked on instead. People like you choose to take their side.If it’s mentioned once that grammar and spelling are important there is no need for a thread to go on and on about it and repeat itself.
Edited by craigjm on Friday 10th July 15:57
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