Working From Home. Torture
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klan8456 said:
vulture1 said:
I hope you get paid lots cos your work sounds s
t. Even before lockdown and wfh,13 hour days badly timed lunches
To be honest it’s a lot better than the 6 years I did in Sydney where I had a 1 hour commute each way, plus worked 8 - 6, come home and have a handful of hours to myself, then join aforementioned calls from 10pm - 1am, back up at 6am to get ready for work again. Rinse and repeat, plus worked every second Saturday evening 10pm - 4am. t. Even before lockdown and wfh,13 hour days badly timed lunches On several occasions I just slept on the floor at the office as it simply wasn’t worth the time to go home and come back again.
Chainsaw Rebuild said:
I agree with the other chap - I hope your salary is massive because your job(s) sound awful. Unless I was being paid a metaphorical wheelbarrow load of money each month I wouldn't entertain such a schedule - it's stealing your personal life from you mate; work life balance etc.
Meh it’s ok, everyone I know does the same thing (except a friend who works in the NHS). Those who run their own companies do even more. It’s just standard, I only wish I could do it from the office rather than my bedroom! klan8456 said:
Chainsaw Rebuild said:
I agree with the other chap - I hope your salary is massive because your job(s) sound awful. Unless I was being paid a metaphorical wheelbarrow load of money each month I wouldn't entertain such a schedule - it's stealing your personal life from you mate; work life balance etc.
Meh it’s ok, everyone I know does the same thing (except a friend who works in the NHS). Those who run their own companies do even more. It’s just standard, I only wish I could do it from the office rather than my bedroom! Klan your priorities are all wrong. You need to stand back & look at your life. Those people who depend on you are not going to thank you, if you carry on & give yourself a breakdown. The way you talk, its where you are headed. It’s not the hours, that’s not the issue, it’s your woe is me attitude. Are you sure you are not clinically depressed?
GT03ROB said:
klan8456 said:
Chainsaw Rebuild said:
I agree with the other chap - I hope your salary is massive because your job(s) sound awful. Unless I was being paid a metaphorical wheelbarrow load of money each month I wouldn't entertain such a schedule - it's stealing your personal life from you mate; work life balance etc.
Meh it’s ok, everyone I know does the same thing (except a friend who works in the NHS). Those who run their own companies do even more. It’s just standard, I only wish I could do it from the office rather than my bedroom! Klan your priorities are all wrong. You need to stand back & look at your life. Those people who depend on you are not going to thank you, if you carry on & give yourself a breakdown. The way you talk, its where you are headed. It’s not the hours, that’s not the issue, it’s your woe is me attitude. Are you sure you are not clinically depressed?
He's so scared about having acid thrown in his face he hasn't even really visited the interesting places in the city he lives in, sounds f
king depressing to me and you but he seems ok with it....like you I think he has mental health issues but he seems to think it's all very normal. Oh well.Lord.Vader said:
I wouldn’t do that for all the tea in China, what an absolute waste of your life.
8-4 is enough for me, though in reality it’s more like 9-2, Mon-Thu.
I’ve always had a strong work ethic. When I was 14 I started working at a supermarket, the day I was old enough to do so under the law of that country. 8-4 is enough for me, though in reality it’s more like 9-2, Mon-Thu.
In addition to being hyper competitive and within 2 weeks setting the all-time scan rate record (600 items per hour) and maintaining that for the next 4 years (got up to 750) I took it upon myself to read every operating and management manual for the store that I possibly could - everything from manual handling rules, loading bay safety guides, to hygiene procedures in the deli. Just had a thirst for knowledge and wanted to learn everything I could and excel at the job, even if it paid £3 an hour.
I was, of course, massively cheaper than the full time adult staff per hour, so given performance / results I kept on getting more shifts up to the legal maximum for someone my age. I was working 48 hours a week during school holidays, and the union was called in by the adult shop reps as they were concerned about me taking their hours, particularly the lucrative sunday shifts. Needless to say that didn’t go anywhere, and I kept pushing myself to perform better and better.
Same attitude I’ve carried to work for the last 20 years, and I can’t see it changing any time soon.
It’s all relative though. My wife thinks I’m lazy AF as she did all that (and more), plus has 2 very difficult to obtain professional qualifications, a top MBA, runs marathons etc and is 5 years younger than me. So I must try harder.
smashing said:
GT03ROB said:
klan8456 said:
Chainsaw Rebuild said:
I agree with the other chap - I hope your salary is massive because your job(s) sound awful. Unless I was being paid a metaphorical wheelbarrow load of money each month I wouldn't entertain such a schedule - it's stealing your personal life from you mate; work life balance etc.
Meh it’s ok, everyone I know does the same thing (except a friend who works in the NHS). Those who run their own companies do even more. It’s just standard, I only wish I could do it from the office rather than my bedroom! Klan your priorities are all wrong. You need to stand back & look at your life. Those people who depend on you are not going to thank you, if you carry on & give yourself a breakdown. The way you talk, its where you are headed. It’s not the hours, that’s not the issue, it’s your woe is me attitude. Are you sure you are not clinically depressed?
He's so scared about having acid thrown in his face he hasn't even really visited the interesting places in the city he lives in, sounds f
king depressing to me and you but he seems ok with it....like you I think he has mental health issues but he seems to think it's all very normal. Oh well.klan8456 said:
Lord.Vader said:
I wouldn’t do that for all the tea in China, what an absolute waste of your life.
8-4 is enough for me, though in reality it’s more like 9-2, Mon-Thu.
I’ve always had a strong work ethic. When I was 14 I started working at a supermarket, the day I was old enough to do so under the law of that country. 8-4 is enough for me, though in reality it’s more like 9-2, Mon-Thu.
In addition to being hyper competitive and within 2 weeks setting the all-time scan rate record (600 items per hour) and maintaining that for the next 4 years (got up to 750) I took it upon myself to read every operating and management manual for the store that I possibly could - everything from manual handling rules, loading bay safety guides, to hygiene procedures in the deli. Just had a thirst for knowledge and wanted to learn everything I could and excel at the job, even if it paid £3 an hour.
I was, of course, massively cheaper than the full time adult staff per hour, so given performance / results I kept on getting more shifts up to the legal maximum for someone my age. I was working 48 hours a week during school holidays, and the union was called in by the adult shop reps as they were concerned about me taking their hours, particularly the lucrative sunday shifts. Needless to say that didn’t go anywhere, and I kept pushing myself to perform better and better.
Same attitude I’ve carried to work for the last 20 years, and I can’t see it changing any time soon.
It’s all relative though. My wife thinks I’m lazy AF as she did all that (and more), plus has 2 very difficult to obtain professional qualifications, a top MBA, runs marathons etc and is 5 years younger than me. So I must try harder.
Work smarter, not longer. Be more effective at what you do, and do less of it. If you're really working 14 hours a day, productively, and every day of the week (not just an exceptional rush to finish a big project) then you're insane for doing 3 other people's jobs at what I'm sure isn't 3x the money.
Krikkit said:
Big difference between a strong work ethic and just being ridiculous.
Work smarter, not longer. Be more effective at what you do, and do less of it. If you're really working 14 hours a day, productively, and every day of the week (not just an exceptional rush to finish a big project) then you're insane for doing 3 other people's jobs at what I'm sure isn't 3x the money.
14hrs a day, 7 days a weeks with any sort of intensity is simply not going to be productive.Work smarter, not longer. Be more effective at what you do, and do less of it. If you're really working 14 hours a day, productively, and every day of the week (not just an exceptional rush to finish a big project) then you're insane for doing 3 other people's jobs at what I'm sure isn't 3x the money.
I was doing 14hrs a day for 28 days straight at the end of such a stint I was burnt out. You always knew when people were coming to the end of their stint ...tolerance & patience had started to disappear out the window.
davidc1 said:
I have loved the wfh but today was a nightmare. I had a project to do and needed a printer. Badly.
So 1st bad day for me.
What took all day would have taken 2 hours with a printer.
Oh well.
Don't you have a printer at home? Or are we talking commercial grade printers here?So 1st bad day for me.
What took all day would have taken 2 hours with a printer.
Oh well.
klan8456 said:
Lord.Vader said:
I wouldn’t do that for all the tea in China, what an absolute waste of your life.
8-4 is enough for me, though in reality it’s more like 9-2, Mon-Thu.
I’ve always had a strong work ethic. When I was 14 I started working at a supermarket, the day I was old enough to do so under the law of that country. 8-4 is enough for me, though in reality it’s more like 9-2, Mon-Thu.
In addition to being hyper competitive and within 2 weeks setting the all-time scan rate record (600 items per hour) and maintaining that for the next 4 years (got up to 750) I took it upon myself to read every operating and management manual for the store that I possibly could - everything from manual handling rules, loading bay safety guides, to hygiene procedures in the deli. Just had a thirst for knowledge and wanted to learn everything I could and excel at the job, even if it paid £3 an hour.
I was, of course, massively cheaper than the full time adult staff per hour, so given performance / results I kept on getting more shifts up to the legal maximum for someone my age. I was working 48 hours a week during school holidays, and the union was called in by the adult shop reps as they were concerned about me taking their hours, particularly the lucrative sunday shifts. Needless to say that didn’t go anywhere, and I kept pushing myself to perform better and better.
Same attitude I’ve carried to work for the last 20 years, and I can’t see it changing any time soon.
It’s all relative though. My wife thinks I’m lazy AF as she did all that (and more), plus has 2 very difficult to obtain professional qualifications, a top MBA, runs marathons etc and is 5 years younger than me. So I must try harder.
You seem to think you are smart, but if you were you’d work smarter not harder, you’d work less for more.
I completed a night school degree (1st class) whilst working in a leadership role full time, night school masters of science (distinction), again whilst working in an even more senior leader leader role in a global team, it isn’t difficult just about time management.
I work with a multitude of companies who are based across the world, I am certainly not ‘working’ at 00:00 to ensure I can call them, they work around my schedule not me around theirs, perhaps you need some training in leadership and being assertive?
You are burning yourself out and will become another statistic, no one will remember how hard you worked or the hours you put in, but they’ll remember the guy who had a breakdown, or a heart attack.
Do you think lying on your death bed you’ll remember, fondly, the 14 hour days, or the sleeping on the office floor? Or wishing you’d spent more time with friends and family?
I ‘woke’ up at 28 and realised chasing money is just a hamster wheel and you’ll never have enough.
Years ago I always wanted to work from home.....the reality is I don't now 
When COVID hit we were working 2/3 days per week at home, at the time my wife was heavily pregnant.....I lasted 1 week of the working from home and opted to be in the office.
Don't get me wrong it was nice to wake up a bit later and wander to the wee office to crack on (I do Business Development for an Engineering Company) I am lucky the majority of my sites are still functioning so I am required to visit them.
When COVID hit we were working 2/3 days per week at home, at the time my wife was heavily pregnant.....I lasted 1 week of the working from home and opted to be in the office.
Don't get me wrong it was nice to wake up a bit later and wander to the wee office to crack on (I do Business Development for an Engineering Company) I am lucky the majority of my sites are still functioning so I am required to visit them.
I had to go into the office a couple of weeks ago for the first time since March. It was only half a day but I couldn't wait to get out of there and back to my home office. I had a slow start to working from home as I had too many distractions and wasn't as productive. I'm really used to it now and I'm actually getting more done in less time. No constant coffee breaks, no idle chatter from the noise box women in the office and a more comfortable and relaxed environment. I choose to have the news on the TV or some light music in the background or not.
If I move on to a different company, the first priority for me will be flexible home working with salary being less important as long as it is enough for me to sustain my current lifestyle.
If I move on to a different company, the first priority for me will be flexible home working with salary being less important as long as it is enough for me to sustain my current lifestyle.
anxious_ant said:
davidc1 said:
I have loved the wfh but today was a nightmare. I had a project to do and needed a printer. Badly.
So 1st bad day for me.
What took all day would have taken 2 hours with a printer.
Oh well.
Don't you have a printer at home? Or are we talking commercial grade printers here?So 1st bad day for me.
What took all day would have taken 2 hours with a printer.
Oh well.
I wouldn't buy one now, it'd just be the same thing, buy a cartridge, print a few sheets, 6 months later try printing something and need another new cartridge.
I MIGHT consider a small laser printer, but that's about it.
Lord.Vader said:
I ‘woke’ up at 28 and realised chasing money is just a hamster wheel and you’ll never have enough.
That's about where I started to realise that being anything more than mediocre was just getting me into trouble and ultimately out of a job. Job after job after job, "career"? what a load of bks......... I say get a job that's easy, close to home and pays "ok", then focus your efforts on your own things, maybe one day your interests will develop into something that pays, maybe not, but at least you'll spend your life doing what matters to you and not simply making other people rich.Woodrow Wilson said:
Good god.
I am now so fed up with working from home.
7 months of it.
Breaking up rocks would be preferable at this point.
I must admit that I’d quite like to see the office, but realistically I know that it would take one or two days of it to change my mind; getting up at 5.45 instead of 8.00 and then 35 miles of the M62 each way. fI am now so fed up with working from home.
7 months of it.
Breaking up rocks would be preferable at this point.
k that!I’m never ever in my life going to take a commute like that again. I’m lucky that my current employer has announced that once we are back to normal everyone will have the option of 80% WFH if they wish. My team is all abroad, so I’ll not be going in at all.
klan8456 said:
Meh it’s ok, everyone I know does the same thing (except a friend who works in the NHS). Those who run their own companies do even more. It’s just standard, I only wish I could do it from the office rather than my bedroom!
That is complete bks.I know several people who run their own businesses that they built, and they have annual profits of well into 6 figures each year without all the 60 hour weeks and sleeping on office floors that you bang on about.
Yes, they worked very hard, especially while they were getting things off the ground, but after a few years, if they are smart, they can put the right systems and people in place, and organise things to ensure the work gets done correctly and on time without either them or the staff working silly hours.
My Dad ran his business for 35 years, and was pretty much clearing £250k a year profit from it most years, and he would lock up the office and head home at 5:30 or 6pm most nights. Of course there were busy periods where we were all working until 10:30pm or whatever, but those were relatively infrequent.
Flogging yourself to death, working 14 hour days, and sleeping on office floors is certainly not normal, not even for people who earning 6 figures working for someone else or running their own company.
I genuinely feel sorry for you if you think all that matters is spending as much time at work as possible.
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