What salary are you happy with these days?
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PrinceRupert said:
It is an interesting point, one of our clients is a major tech company with a casual dress code, and we would look very odd if we turned up in suit and tie - so normally lose the jacket and tie. For my first meeting, I turned up in suit and tie, boss told me to drop the tie, and my client turned up in a tracksuit ...
Was your client DMO?romeogolf said:
As a rule, low pay is for physical, time-consuming work. Higher pay is rewarded for your knowledge, not your time or your body.
That's not necessarily the case any more; this is the situation my profession is in:https://www.stonehard.co.uk/company-news/architect...
Lord.Vader said:
Absolutely, let’s be honest those are the ‘declared’ salaries too.
All my trade friends make an easy £1k a week tax free plus their declared earnings. All are booked up in advance too, the idea of moving to the city and needing a degree to get a decent job is a thing of the past.
Yup, tradesman are in short supply, can easily charge £200-250 a day and be fending off clients. Plasterers seem particularly in demand ... All my trade friends make an easy £1k a week tax free plus their declared earnings. All are booked up in advance too, the idea of moving to the city and needing a degree to get a decent job is a thing of the past.
okgo said:
PrinceRupert said:
Yup, tradesman are in short supply, can easily charge £200-250 a day and be fending off clients. Plasterers seem particularly in demand ...
But they'll never earn any more, and their bodies are knackered by 50, it's not an easy way to make a living.They’ll never earn more? Really?
Shows what you don’t know.
ETA; a sparky has 5 jobs, he can only work 1, his staff work 4, he makes a nice profit (especially on commercial / non-domestic jobs) without even lifting a finger on 4 of the jobs.
Nope, none of that ... same as any other self employed person, irrespective of their profession.
Shows what you don’t know.
ETA; a sparky has 5 jobs, he can only work 1, his staff work 4, he makes a nice profit (especially on commercial / non-domestic jobs) without even lifting a finger on 4 of the jobs.
Nope, none of that ... same as any other self employed person, irrespective of their profession.
Edited by Lord.Vader on Thursday 29th October 15:47
Lord.Vader said:
They’ll never earn more? Really?
Shows what you don’t know.
ETA; a sparky has 5 jobs, he can only work 1, his staff work 4, he makes a nice profit (especially on commercial / non-domestic jobs) without even lifting a finger on 4 of the jobs.
Nope, none of that ... same as any other self employed person, irrespective of their profession.
At that point he is operating a small business, rather than making his money being an electrician. Shows what you don’t know.
ETA; a sparky has 5 jobs, he can only work 1, his staff work 4, he makes a nice profit (especially on commercial / non-domestic jobs) without even lifting a finger on 4 of the jobs.
Nope, none of that ... same as any other self employed person, irrespective of their profession.
Edited by Lord.Vader on Thursday 29th October 15:47
Lord.Vader said:
Absolutely, let’s be honest those are the ‘declared’ salaries too.
All my trade friends make an easy £1k a week tax free plus their declared earnings. All are booked up in advance too, the idea of moving to the city and needing a degree to get a decent job is a thing of the past.
I'd be a lot richer if I evaded tax as well.All my trade friends make an easy £1k a week tax free plus their declared earnings. All are booked up in advance too, the idea of moving to the city and needing a degree to get a decent job is a thing of the past.
NDNDNDND said:
That's not necessarily the case any more; this is the situation my profession is in:
https://www.stonehard.co.uk/company-news/architect...
It’s a joke isn’t it? Architecture salaries are inflation proof.https://www.stonehard.co.uk/company-news/architect...
PrinceRupert said:
Lord.Vader said:
Absolutely, let’s be honest those are the ‘declared’ salaries too.
All my trade friends make an easy £1k a week tax free plus their declared earnings. All are booked up in advance too, the idea of moving to the city and needing a degree to get a decent job is a thing of the past.
Yup, tradesman are in short supply, can easily charge £200-250 a day and be fending off clients. Plasterers seem particularly in demand ... All my trade friends make an easy £1k a week tax free plus their declared earnings. All are booked up in advance too, the idea of moving to the city and needing a degree to get a decent job is a thing of the past.
Not many plasterers want to do one wall or one room they want a whole house at least to make it worth it.
As usual with many traders instead of just saying it's not a big enough job ,they just give the run around and then block the number.
sutoka said:
PrinceRupert said:
Lord.Vader said:
Absolutely, let’s be honest those are the ‘declared’ salaries too.
All my trade friends make an easy £1k a week tax free plus their declared earnings. All are booked up in advance too, the idea of moving to the city and needing a degree to get a decent job is a thing of the past.
Yup, tradesman are in short supply, can easily charge £200-250 a day and be fending off clients. Plasterers seem particularly in demand ... All my trade friends make an easy £1k a week tax free plus their declared earnings. All are booked up in advance too, the idea of moving to the city and needing a degree to get a decent job is a thing of the past.
Not many plasterers want to do one wall or one room they want a whole house at least to make it worth it.
As usual with many traders instead of just saying it's not a big enough job ,they just give the run around and then block the number.
If they go to quote and it isn't for them why can't they just say so?
djc206 said:
kingston12 said:
Its just because 'that's the way we've always done it', just like physically going into an office five days a week which adds little or no value to a lot of roles, but does add a lost of cost and hassle.
Both are changing fairly quickly now though.
Seems to be the case.Both are changing fairly quickly now though.
As someone who has worn jeans and a t shirt to work every day for a decade it completely baffles me. Pre covid when I would have cause to visit out corporate offices I’d find whole buildings of people sat there wearing their next/M&S finest except on Friday when they would be wearing their jeans and t shirts like me. Unless they’re meeting people from less enlightened companies or dignitaries why would they wear less comfortable clothing for 4 days and why would Friday be treated any differently? If it’s good on a Friday it’s good on a Monday. Now they’re all sat at home in their pyjamas/joggers/birthday suits doing their jobs sans the miserable commute, terrible filter coffee and polyester suits. Presumably this has had no impact on their ability to do their jobs.
Lots of frustration and misery (and declining performance) in firms I speak to.
I'm on £25,902 at the moment. Covers my share of the bills and money left over.
Get an extra £100 a month in unsocial hours plus normally £200 in over time.
It will increase to £41,000 over the next five/six years which will be more than enough.
Of course more would be nice, however no intention to go for promotion. Start on £45,000 I think and the extra responsibility for not that much more doesn't seem worth it to me.
Get an extra £100 a month in unsocial hours plus normally £200 in over time.
It will increase to £41,000 over the next five/six years which will be more than enough.
Of course more would be nice, however no intention to go for promotion. Start on £45,000 I think and the extra responsibility for not that much more doesn't seem worth it to me.
LosingGrip said:
I'm on £25,902 at the moment. Covers my share of the bills and money left over.
Get an extra £100 a month in unsocial hours plus normally £200 in over time.
It will increase to £41,000 over the next five/six years which will be more than enough.
Of course more would be nice, however no intention to go for promotion. Start on £45,000 I think and the extra responsibility for not that much more doesn't seem worth it to me.
Thing is in your profession, a big chunk is your pension so whilst it sounds like your on parity with others of a similar salary, they'll likely take home a fair chunk more. Get an extra £100 a month in unsocial hours plus normally £200 in over time.
It will increase to £41,000 over the next five/six years which will be more than enough.
Of course more would be nice, however no intention to go for promotion. Start on £45,000 I think and the extra responsibility for not that much more doesn't seem worth it to me.
Cops IMO are underpaid for the s
t they take. PrinceRupert said:
Lord.Vader said:
They’ll never earn more? Really?
Shows what you don’t know.
ETA; a sparky has 5 jobs, he can only work 1, his staff work 4, he makes a nice profit (especially on commercial / non-domestic jobs) without even lifting a finger on 4 of the jobs.
Nope, none of that ... same as any other self employed person, irrespective of their profession.
At that point he is operating a small business, rather than making his money being an electrician. Shows what you don’t know.
ETA; a sparky has 5 jobs, he can only work 1, his staff work 4, he makes a nice profit (especially on commercial / non-domestic jobs) without even lifting a finger on 4 of the jobs.
Nope, none of that ... same as any other self employed person, irrespective of their profession.
Edited by Lord.Vader on Thursday 29th October 15:47
My point being that to think being a tradesman starts and ends as a one man band going from house to house on £200 a day is incorrect.
What did that lad who owns Pimlico start out as?
ETA; Dr (Non-consulting) / Nurses / all emergency service front line staff are massively under paid, as is the Army / RAF / Navy.
Lord.Vader said:
Yes he is running a business, as an electrician.
My point being that to think being a tradesman starts and ends as a one man band going from house to house on £200 a day is incorrect.
What did that lad who owns Pimlico start out as?
ETA; Dr (Non-consulting) / Nurses / all emergency service front line staff are massively under paid, as is the Army / RAF / Navy.
I doubt it'll change. Whilst you've got people recruiting into those roles, until there's a shortage they don't need to pay more. My point being that to think being a tradesman starts and ends as a one man band going from house to house on £200 a day is incorrect.
What did that lad who owns Pimlico start out as?
ETA; Dr (Non-consulting) / Nurses / all emergency service front line staff are massively under paid, as is the Army / RAF / Navy.
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