Gender Pronouns at Work
Discussion
Lord Marylebone said:
I can honestly say haven't found that at all.
I would go the other way and say that the c*nts are the ones that moan about 'political correctness' and the fact they have to make a tiny change to their vocabulary to make others feel more welcome. Those ones are the real t
ts you need to avoid.
If there was a like button. I'd press it. I would go the other way and say that the c*nts are the ones that moan about 'political correctness' and the fact they have to make a tiny change to their vocabulary to make others feel more welcome. Those ones are the real t
ts you need to avoid.The best way of dealing with political correctness is to wholeheartedly embrace it, whilst never picking any one else up if they slip Occassionally.
I'm thinking that if required, preferred pronouns would be sir/sire/master/eng.
omniflow said:
I think they eventually worked out what a diva they were being, because about 3 years later they had changed their name to "Pips", which was to be used at all times.
Maybe someone sent them a cheque/payment under a name they didn't have a bank account for and refused to re issue it as that was the person they they were dealing with 
Polite M135 driver said:
it might not have offended you before but I guess to some people, maybe those who have a preference that is non-obvious have always been offended or upset (seems more likely) when people get it wrong.
I'm not super right-on about all this stuff or anything, but on this, I don't think it costs me anything to try and remember people's preferences and then treat them politely by using it.
I think it's just polite to call people what they would prefer to be called.
...aaand when you have 60 people with different pronouns, you're expected to remember them all otherwise you're insensitive? Remembering people's names is hard enough when you aren't directly working with them continually. To have this brought up as some sort of slight is just ludicrous. I often send emails with "Hi guys" to a mixed group. No one has killed themselves in despair yet. I'm not super right-on about all this stuff or anything, but on this, I don't think it costs me anything to try and remember people's preferences and then treat them politely by using it.
I think it's just polite to call people what they would prefer to be called.
Mod edit to remove insult
Lord Marylebone said:
It is quite common on both email and in video calls now. I was in a Zoom meeting on Wednesday and next to each persons name was (she/her) (he/him) or (they/them).
I find it easier to get into the habit of not using he/she etc.
Instead of saying "I read the report produced by Charlotte and can confirm she has covered all the relevant points" I would say "I read the report produced by Charlotte and confirm they have covered all the relevant points".
Instead of saying "I will be meeting with her later" I would say "I will be meeting with them later"
It's fairly straightforward once you get used to it.
Is it?! What industry do you work in where this is common?I find it easier to get into the habit of not using he/she etc.
Instead of saying "I read the report produced by Charlotte and can confirm she has covered all the relevant points" I would say "I read the report produced by Charlotte and confirm they have covered all the relevant points".
Instead of saying "I will be meeting with her later" I would say "I will be meeting with them later"
It's fairly straightforward once you get used to it.
Lord Marylebone said:
Dromedary66 said:
Yes, we have some of those where I work as well. It's actually quite a useful advanced warning that that person is a bit of a c*nt.
I can honestly say haven't found that at all.I would go the other way and say that the c*nts are the ones that moan about 'political correctness' and the fact they have to make a tiny change to their vocabulary to make others feel more welcome. Those ones are the real t
ts you need to avoid.Definition:micro aggression, an aggression that's so tiny you don't have to give a single f
k about it. Go to Glasgow on a Friday night, see a real aggression. Trademark Leo Kearse.Lord Marylebone said:
I work in social housing and housing development, and am also on a couple of Boards for higher education.
Certainly across the social housing and higher education sectors it is becoming quite common.
Ah! That makes sense. I've never come across it at all in - whether internally, any suppliers, customers or even any of my connections on linkedin. Certainly across the social housing and higher education sectors it is becoming quite common.
Lord Marylebone said:
menguin said:
Is it?! What industry do you work in where this is common?
I work in social housing and housing development, and am also on a couple of Boards for higher education.Certainly across the social housing and higher education sectors it is becoming quite common.
kiness over and above putting your degree in your signature. towser said:
At work I've recently noticed email signatures appearing with gender pronouns being added ( he / him, she / her etc...) and to be honest I haven't a clue what's going on. I'll be in a meeting with someone with such a signature and their gender is obvious to me.
I'm now a little wary that I'm unwittingly walking in a minefield and could say or do the wrong thing.
Can anyone enlighten me as to what's going on here?
It’s something young narcissists do when they aren’t getting enough attention.I'm now a little wary that I'm unwittingly walking in a minefield and could say or do the wrong thing.
Can anyone enlighten me as to what's going on here?
They will often also claim that they are “non-binary”, which means that they are like everyone else, and have a mixture of characteristics that are stereotypically male or female.
We just wait for them to use the wrong toilet then sack them. It’s the only way to be sure.
Lord Marylebone said:
I can honestly say haven't found that at all.
I would go the other way and say that the c*nts are the ones that moan about 'political correctness' and the fact they have to make a tiny change to their vocabulary to make others feel more welcome. Those ones are the real tts you need to avoid.
Given the way trans activists are pushing back women’s rights by allowing AGP males into their spaces, prisons and refuges, and using pronouns as part of this, I’d say no.I would go the other way and say that the c*nts are the ones that moan about 'political correctness' and the fact they have to make a tiny change to their vocabulary to make others feel more welcome. Those ones are the real t
ts you need to avoid.Women have been forced to refer to their rapist as “she” in court cases, as in “sorry, your honour, I mean she, not he put her penis in me”
Have a look at the way the trans community has rallied to the cause of Barbie Kardashian in recent weeks, against women’s rights groups who are appalled that he (sorry, she...) will be placed in a women’s prison.
You may view the situations as unrelated, but they really aren’t.
Reminded of the google rmployee that identified as a dragon
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/01/10/damore-l...
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/01/10/damore-l...
Back in the real world I made a £5k sale today because the previous sales guy who'd pitched the customer was racist twice in the five minutes he spent with her. "Asian's get away with murder" apparently. She was white so I'm not sure how that came up at all.
Pronoun wokeness would blow his mind.
Pronoun wokeness would blow his mind.
Lord Marylebone said:
It is quite common on both email and in video calls now. I was in a Zoom meeting on Wednesday and next to each persons name was (she/her) (he/him) or (they/them).
I find it easier to get into the habit of not using he/she etc.
Instead of saying "I read the report produced by Charlotte and can confirm she has covered all the relevant points" I would say "I read the report produced by Charlotte and confirm they have covered all the relevant points".
Instead of saying "I will be meeting with her later" I would say "I will be meeting with them later"
It's fairly straightforward once you get used to it.
Difficult for dealing with car crime if a non gendered person smashes your window to steal your sat nav... if you called 101 and explained "they broke into the car", the police may want to know how many people it was... I find it easier to get into the habit of not using he/she etc.
Instead of saying "I read the report produced by Charlotte and can confirm she has covered all the relevant points" I would say "I read the report produced by Charlotte and confirm they have covered all the relevant points".
Instead of saying "I will be meeting with her later" I would say "I will be meeting with them later"
It's fairly straightforward once you get used to it.
CourtAgain said:
Difficult for dealing with car crime if a non gendered person smashes your window to steal your sat nav... if you called 101 and explained "they broke into the car", the police may want to know how many people it was...
Or they (singular, the person your talking to) might ask why you didn't stop them (again singular) because obviously you had to be there watching so you could make the police report with gender description. Of course most likely they (singular) would assume you didn't see/know who broke into your car and you were just using perfectly natural language to describe a single person (or multiple) who you don't know the gender or quantity of when making their (singular) report or investigation. Edited by 8.4L 154 on Monday 26th October 10:14
Pit Pony said:
Christ on a stick, these people need real jobs.
With the greatest respect to anyone, who is erm less traditional in their gender, but nobody cares.
I think we should adopt the use of only Surnames. No Mr, Mrs, miss, Dr, prof, or mz,
The occasional sarcastic yes boss. To an equal, always goes down well.
Or rude nicknames. Why am I called pony? Must be that I'm hung like a horse.
Speak for yourself. I'm hung like a Norse. It's very cold in Norway.With the greatest respect to anyone, who is erm less traditional in their gender, but nobody cares.
I think we should adopt the use of only Surnames. No Mr, Mrs, miss, Dr, prof, or mz,
The occasional sarcastic yes boss. To an equal, always goes down well.
Or rude nicknames. Why am I called pony? Must be that I'm hung like a horse.
I often wonder who would win in one of these super woke companies, say for an example some one wanted to change genders but then some really religious person would not acknowledge this and complained it would be a fun time in the HR department as they would both be protected classes.
8.4L 154 said:
Or they (singular, the person your talking to) might ask why you didn't stop them (again singular) because obviously you had to be there watching so you could make the police report with gender description. Of course most likely they (singular) would assume you didn't see/know who broke into your car and you were just using perfectly natural language to describe a single person (or multiple) who you don't know the gender or quantity of when making their (singular) report or investigation.
Lol. Edited by 8.4L 154 on Monday 26th October 10:14
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