What is the definition of 40 hours per week?

[Doofus]

crofty1984 said:

Saleen836 said:

Evoluzione said:

Daft question to ask on here where it's typically 10 hrs of work and 30 spent posting shyte on PH on how to paint your garage or whatever.

5 hours of work, 30 spent posting shyte on PH and 5 hours taking fag breaks (if you are a smoker of course)

Smoking is stupid.
It cuts into your posting st on PH time.

If you're on PH, it's cigars, isn't it?

Still stupid, mind, but easier to think of yourself as impressive.

[RedWhiteMonkey]

Working hours are exactly that, they do not include lunch or any other breaks. 40 hours means 40 hours of working time.

[GliderRider]

RedWhiteMonkey said:

Working hours are exactly that, they do not include lunch or any other breaks. 40 hours means 40 hours of working time.

Maybe where you are. In 38 years of work, mostly in the South of England, both permie and contract, I've never worked anywhere that treated tea breaks as unpaid. Just asked my girlfriend who worked in various factories in Scotland, and she said it was quite common there for tea breaks to be unpaid.

[Johnnytheboy]

This 'unpaid lunchbreak' thing really annoys me. My staff are meant to be there from 0730 until 1600.

They often want to know why they can't leave early as they haven't taken lunch.

If they were paid this would not happen.

[RedWhiteMonkey]

Johnnytheboy said:

This 'unpaid lunchbreak' thing really annoys me. My staff are meant to be there from 0730 until 1600.

They often want to know why they can't leave early as they haven't taken lunch.

If they were paid this would not happen.

That's employment law designed to protect people from working too long without a break, probably stems from industries where tiredness can be fatal.

[anonymous-user]

20% work 80% waste.

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GliderRider said:

RedWhiteMonkey said:

Working hours are exactly that, they do not include lunch or any other breaks. 40 hours means 40 hours of working time.

Maybe where you are. In 38 years of work, mostly in the South of England, both permie and contract, I've never worked anywhere that treated tea breaks as unpaid. Just asked my girlfriend who worked in various factories in Scotland, and she said it was quite common there for tea breaks to be unpaid.

In 34 years of work every break I've taken over 20 minutes has been unpaid. At my first job at Asda 15 minute breaks were paid but if you worked over 5 hours you had to take a 30 minute unpaid break.

[sherman]

40 hours = 40 hours clocked/logged in

Lunch breaks are unpaid = logged out
Making a cup of coffee and taking it back to your desk is paid.
Going to the toilet is also paid.

[R56Cooper]

Depends on what the contract says.

If the contract is unclear or does not deal with the point, the legal presumption is that any uncertainty will be resolved in the employee's favour.

This means that "your hours are 40 per week" will be interpreted as paid breaks.

[Johnnytheboy]

RedWhiteMonkey said:

Johnnytheboy said:

This 'unpaid lunchbreak' thing really annoys me. My staff are meant to be there from 0730 until 1600.

They often want to know why they can't leave early as they haven't taken lunch.

If they were paid this would not happen.

That's employment law designed to protect people from working too long without a break, probably stems from industries where tiredness can be fatal.

I know. But employment law isn't why the breaks are unpaid.

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Johnnytheboy said:

RedWhiteMonkey said:

Johnnytheboy said:

This 'unpaid lunchbreak' thing really annoys me. My staff are meant to be there from 0730 until 1600.

They often want to know why they can't leave early as they haven't taken lunch.

If they were paid this would not happen.

That's employment law designed to protect people from working too long without a break, probably stems from industries where tiredness can be fatal.

I know. But employment law isn't why the breaks are unpaid.

Equally there's no law that says they should be paid.

Government "Employees MUST have a break of X minutes every 6 hours"

Employer "Ok, if you insist, but we're not paying for it"