Jacking in your job
Discussion
Danny4494 said:
The amount of people in a similar position on here is surprising,
I’m in a similar position couple of businesses I tried to set up that started going quite well ended badly during the whole Covid situation since then a family friend (that term is loose more of a friend of a friend of someone my dad knows) who owns a medium sized second had car sales around 50 cars, said I could come and help him out if I wanted just sales and admin etc sorting customer finance, adverts etc.
Been here for 2 years now, one of the valets left about a year ago so naturally got asked here and there just give that a quick valet, wash this off or that off, now I spend most of my days doing auction runs and valets, still drop in on car sales when customers turn up etc, but not very often no incentive either to be honest no commissions etc.
Never had a contract etc just fill out self assessment for self employed so not earning pension, no holiday pay etc, often get told I’m not needed or needed with less than 12 hours notice (got told today not needed now Tuesday Wednesday but they might need me Thursday they will let me know Wednesday night), recently been struggling just to make ends meet only getting 3-4 days a week so dipping in the savings to make ends meet not ideal and the savings are nearly gone now.
Feel lost not sure what to do or where to go, never felt better than when I was running my business the drive and ambition is something I don’t think I will ever get from a regular 9-5, I will be leaving this job as soon as I get a plan.
Strange analogy but bear with me, did you ever loose your parent in the supermarket when you were a kid that sheer panic you felt of not knowing what to do where to go, that’s what I feel like an adult lost in a big supermarket of life.
Can honestly say I have never been so miserable
Danny this is very sad to read. I’m in a similar position couple of businesses I tried to set up that started going quite well ended badly during the whole Covid situation since then a family friend (that term is loose more of a friend of a friend of someone my dad knows) who owns a medium sized second had car sales around 50 cars, said I could come and help him out if I wanted just sales and admin etc sorting customer finance, adverts etc.
Been here for 2 years now, one of the valets left about a year ago so naturally got asked here and there just give that a quick valet, wash this off or that off, now I spend most of my days doing auction runs and valets, still drop in on car sales when customers turn up etc, but not very often no incentive either to be honest no commissions etc.
Never had a contract etc just fill out self assessment for self employed so not earning pension, no holiday pay etc, often get told I’m not needed or needed with less than 12 hours notice (got told today not needed now Tuesday Wednesday but they might need me Thursday they will let me know Wednesday night), recently been struggling just to make ends meet only getting 3-4 days a week so dipping in the savings to make ends meet not ideal and the savings are nearly gone now.
Feel lost not sure what to do or where to go, never felt better than when I was running my business the drive and ambition is something I don’t think I will ever get from a regular 9-5, I will be leaving this job as soon as I get a plan.
Strange analogy but bear with me, did you ever loose your parent in the supermarket when you were a kid that sheer panic you felt of not knowing what to do where to go, that’s what I feel like an adult lost in a big supermarket of life.
Can honestly say I have never been so miserable
My two cents: -
1. Theres a reason your ventures fail, and while that may be due to external factors. So I suggest you Use the time he doesn't need you wisely, so see can you enroll in a course on Entrepreneurship. whether remotely or in class. or hoover up what information you can on the internet. It may help you in tricky times during your next venture.
2. Get the hell out of that company and find somewhere to work in the medium term that gives you a contract, pays a pension and treats you like you deserve to be treated.
Thanks for the replies on my message, I've already had a couple of good interviews online. Very technical on one but I feel like the pressure was totally off even though I've hand my notice in with no where to go.....
I was in the office today and the whole management team have started to completely ignore me which suits me fine. I've even managed to find some more motivation to clear off the crap I've been working on before I go. I suppose I want my good reputation in the industry to be upheld.
My wife wasn't very happy but I said that I have faith that my skills and ability will be snapped up elsewhere. Nothing ventured Nothing gained. I've even looked outside my own industry for something different which I find quite exciting, I'm sure I'll land on my feet.
I was in the office today and the whole management team have started to completely ignore me which suits me fine. I've even managed to find some more motivation to clear off the crap I've been working on before I go. I suppose I want my good reputation in the industry to be upheld.
My wife wasn't very happy but I said that I have faith that my skills and ability will be snapped up elsewhere. Nothing ventured Nothing gained. I've even looked outside my own industry for something different which I find quite exciting, I'm sure I'll land on my feet.
The OG Jester said:
Handed my notice in today, 3 months notice period and I have no where to go.
I know I'll find something and it's giving me an extra impotence to do it.
It was pretty empowering handing my notice in. I was asked where I was going (as if it was a competitor, potential garden leave) but telling them I have nothing lined up and the place has broken me felt amazing.
The look of disbelief was wonderful for me. I have savings tucked away catering for THE WORST CASE but I'm more confident now that my skills will be snapped up elsewhere.
Good effort. As the OP, I understand this entirely.I know I'll find something and it's giving me an extra impotence to do it.
It was pretty empowering handing my notice in. I was asked where I was going (as if it was a competitor, potential garden leave) but telling them I have nothing lined up and the place has broken me felt amazing.
The look of disbelief was wonderful for me. I have savings tucked away catering for THE WORST CASE but I'm more confident now that my skills will be snapped up elsewhere.
Leaving my old job was a big, very positive, step for me.
The job I have been doing for the past year or so has been a big improvement in enjoyment, influence and satisfaction.
I have recently had some genuine interest from people who are keen for me to go back to similar jobs to the one I left. The significantly higher salaries are quite tempting, although the work will be less interesting.
Having taken a job that was lower down the corporate ladder than the previous one (in a different industry, that required some initial learning), recent events have allowed me to demonstrate various skills and abilities at my current workplace. I have become more established and prominent, gaining a bit more influence. My role is evolving into something that suits me. Interesting times.
Woodrow Wilson said:
Good effort. As the OP, I understand this entirely.
Leaving my old job was a big, very positive, step for me.
The job I have been doing for the past year or so has been a big improvement in enjoyment, influence and satisfaction.
I have recently had some genuine interest from people who are keen for me to go back to similar jobs to the one I left. The significantly higher salaries are quite tempting, although the work will be less interesting.
Having taken a job that was lower down the corporate ladder than the previous one (in a different industry, that required some initial learning), recent events have allowed me to demonstrate various skills and abilities at my current workplace. I have become more established and prominent, gaining a bit more influence. My role is evolving into something that suits me. Interesting times.
Been offered another job already, similar money but overall package maybe not as good but it's fully remote and more in line with the Design and Technical elements I want to do.Leaving my old job was a big, very positive, step for me.
The job I have been doing for the past year or so has been a big improvement in enjoyment, influence and satisfaction.
I have recently had some genuine interest from people who are keen for me to go back to similar jobs to the one I left. The significantly higher salaries are quite tempting, although the work will be less interesting.
Having taken a job that was lower down the corporate ladder than the previous one (in a different industry, that required some initial learning), recent events have allowed me to demonstrate various skills and abilities at my current workplace. I have become more established and prominent, gaining a bit more influence. My role is evolving into something that suits me. Interesting times.
Going to ponder it over the weekend but it's good to know some of the pressure is off me.
Many years ago as a young lawyer I was having a very tough time. Hours and pressure were brutal. Young child. Wife not earning much. Told her I was really struggling. She said just quit. Said I couldn’t as mortgage etc. she just said ‘we’ll manage’. I didn’t quit but the ‘permission’ was uplifting. Knowing I could. That she’s got my back and happy with whatever I do.
Kind of happened again when I wanted to start my own firm. Backed me and knew it was ok to fail. She also knew I wouldn’t but it allowed me to take the risk. Best thing I ever did. Still brutal hours and pressure but no politics. It’s allowed us to buy a farm and have a hope of retiring and still being able to cover our costs.
Behind every good man etc. Makes a massive difference. Very lucky.
Kind of happened again when I wanted to start my own firm. Backed me and knew it was ok to fail. She also knew I wouldn’t but it allowed me to take the risk. Best thing I ever did. Still brutal hours and pressure but no politics. It’s allowed us to buy a farm and have a hope of retiring and still being able to cover our costs.
Behind every good man etc. Makes a massive difference. Very lucky.
Haven’t read the whole thread, but in the spirit of sharing…
Left my job in September, after almost 16 years in the same team, under the same boss, doing the same job albeit with a more senior title and slightly more responsibility.
I was really quite depressed for at least the last five years, with a constant feeling of utter dread and hopelessness that I have nothing to look forward to in terms of progression or learning.
I was lucky enough to agree an exit with a package that will allow me to stay out of work for a little while.
Currently job hunting and it’s frustrating and daunting, but I feel like I’ve lifted a huge weight over my shoulders and that I’m now in control of my destiny.
Very happy with my decision and that I can now get the next job in my own terms.
Left my job in September, after almost 16 years in the same team, under the same boss, doing the same job albeit with a more senior title and slightly more responsibility.
I was really quite depressed for at least the last five years, with a constant feeling of utter dread and hopelessness that I have nothing to look forward to in terms of progression or learning.
I was lucky enough to agree an exit with a package that will allow me to stay out of work for a little while.
Currently job hunting and it’s frustrating and daunting, but I feel like I’ve lifted a huge weight over my shoulders and that I’m now in control of my destiny.
Very happy with my decision and that I can now get the next job in my own terms.
matrignano said:
Haven’t read the whole thread, but in the spirit of sharing…
Left my job in September, after almost 16 years in the same team, under the same boss, doing the same job albeit with a more senior title and slightly more responsibility.
I was really quite depressed for at least the last five years, with a constant feeling of utter dread and hopelessness that I have nothing to look forward to in terms of progression or learning.
I was lucky enough to agree an exit with a package that will allow me to stay out of work for a little while.
Currently job hunting and it’s frustrating and daunting, but I feel like I’ve lifted a huge weight over my shoulders and that I’m now in control of my destiny.
Very happy with my decision and that I can now get the next job in my own terms.
Why would they give you a package to leave?Left my job in September, after almost 16 years in the same team, under the same boss, doing the same job albeit with a more senior title and slightly more responsibility.
I was really quite depressed for at least the last five years, with a constant feeling of utter dread and hopelessness that I have nothing to look forward to in terms of progression or learning.
I was lucky enough to agree an exit with a package that will allow me to stay out of work for a little while.
Currently job hunting and it’s frustrating and daunting, but I feel like I’ve lifted a huge weight over my shoulders and that I’m now in control of my destiny.
Very happy with my decision and that I can now get the next job in my own terms.
jasonrobertson86 said:
matrignano said:
Haven’t read the whole thread, but in the spirit of sharing…
Left my job in September, after almost 16 years in the same team, under the same boss, doing the same job albeit with a more senior title and slightly more responsibility.
I was really quite depressed for at least the last five years, with a constant feeling of utter dread and hopelessness that I have nothing to look forward to in terms of progression or learning.
I was lucky enough to agree an exit with a package that will allow me to stay out of work for a little while.
Currently job hunting and it’s frustrating and daunting, but I feel like I’ve lifted a huge weight over my shoulders and that I’m now in control of my destiny.
Very happy with my decision and that I can now get the next job in my own terms.
Why would they give you a package to leave?Left my job in September, after almost 16 years in the same team, under the same boss, doing the same job albeit with a more senior title and slightly more responsibility.
I was really quite depressed for at least the last five years, with a constant feeling of utter dread and hopelessness that I have nothing to look forward to in terms of progression or learning.
I was lucky enough to agree an exit with a package that will allow me to stay out of work for a little while.
Currently job hunting and it’s frustrating and daunting, but I feel like I’ve lifted a huge weight over my shoulders and that I’m now in control of my destiny.
Very happy with my decision and that I can now get the next job in my own terms.
crisp packet said:
Many years ago as a young lawyer I was having a very tough time. Hours and pressure were brutal. Young child. Wife not earning much. Told her I was really struggling. She said just quit. Said I couldn’t as mortgage etc. she just said ‘we’ll manage’. I didn’t quit but the ‘permission’ was uplifting. Knowing I could. That she’s got my back and happy with whatever I do.
Kind of happened again when I wanted to start my own firm. Backed me and knew it was ok to fail. She also knew I wouldn’t but it allowed me to take the risk. Best thing I ever did. Still brutal hours and pressure but no politics. It’s allowed us to buy a farm and have a hope of retiring and still being able to cover our costs.
Behind every good man etc. Makes a massive difference. Very lucky.
I see alot of parallels to my situation here. 42 year old in house lawyer getting well paid but dumped on. Management are old and have half 'checked out' except where it suits them to 'wield their power' for bigger decisions. My wife jacked her job in to set up her own company in community healthcare so my wedge is covering that also, Im in this gig 13.5 years so the pay is quite high. I am told variously to either 'sit tight and milk it' or 'jack it in'. My wifes outlook is that i shouldnt stay where i am but i work in a fairly niche area for where we are so she agrees that a change will take time. In the interim, and seeing how down its making me, shes pushing me to focus my efforts on taking on a sporting challenge. Kind of happened again when I wanted to start my own firm. Backed me and knew it was ok to fail. She also knew I wouldn’t but it allowed me to take the risk. Best thing I ever did. Still brutal hours and pressure but no politics. It’s allowed us to buy a farm and have a hope of retiring and still being able to cover our costs.
Behind every good man etc. Makes a massive difference. Very lucky.
The OG Jester said:
Handed my notice in today, 3 months notice period and I have no where to go.
I know I'll find something and it's giving me an extra impotence to do it.
It was pretty empowering handing my notice in. I was asked where I was going (as if it was a competitor, potential garden leave) but telling them I have nothing lined up and the place has broken me felt amazing.
The look of disbelief was wonderful for me. I have savings tucked away catering for THE WORST CASE but I'm more confident now that my skills will be snapped up elsewhere.
er.... impetus...? I know I'll find something and it's giving me an extra impotence to do it.
It was pretty empowering handing my notice in. I was asked where I was going (as if it was a competitor, potential garden leave) but telling them I have nothing lined up and the place has broken me felt amazing.
The look of disbelief was wonderful for me. I have savings tucked away catering for THE WORST CASE but I'm more confident now that my skills will be snapped up elsewhere.
RedAndy said:
The OG Jester said:
Handed my notice in today, 3 months notice period and I have no where to go.
I know I'll find something and it's giving me an extra impotence to do it.
It was pretty empowering handing my notice in. I was asked where I was going (as if it was a competitor, potential garden leave) but telling them I have nothing lined up and the place has broken me felt amazing.
The look of disbelief was wonderful for me. I have savings tucked away catering for THE WORST CASE but I'm more confident now that my skills will be snapped up elsewhere.
er.... impetus...? I know I'll find something and it's giving me an extra impotence to do it.
It was pretty empowering handing my notice in. I was asked where I was going (as if it was a competitor, potential garden leave) but telling them I have nothing lined up and the place has broken me felt amazing.
The look of disbelief was wonderful for me. I have savings tucked away catering for THE WORST CASE but I'm more confident now that my skills will be snapped up elsewhere.
jasonrobertson86 said:
matrignano said:
Haven’t read the whole thread, but in the spirit of sharing…
Left my job in September, after almost 16 years in the same team, under the same boss, doing the same job albeit with a more senior title and slightly more responsibility.
I was really quite depressed for at least the last five years, with a constant feeling of utter dread and hopelessness that I have nothing to look forward to in terms of progression or learning.
I was lucky enough to agree an exit with a package that will allow me to stay out of work for a little while.
Currently job hunting and it’s frustrating and daunting, but I feel like I’ve lifted a huge weight over my shoulders and that I’m now in control of my destiny.
Very happy with my decision and that I can now get the next job in my own terms.
Why would they give you a package to leave?Left my job in September, after almost 16 years in the same team, under the same boss, doing the same job albeit with a more senior title and slightly more responsibility.
I was really quite depressed for at least the last five years, with a constant feeling of utter dread and hopelessness that I have nothing to look forward to in terms of progression or learning.
I was lucky enough to agree an exit with a package that will allow me to stay out of work for a little while.
Currently job hunting and it’s frustrating and daunting, but I feel like I’ve lifted a huge weight over my shoulders and that I’m now in control of my destiny.
Very happy with my decision and that I can now get the next job in my own terms.
Approaching 59, worked for the same company in the same role for 23 years.
TBF it's a great company who look after it's employees but my role is very technical with constant new software learning etc..
I increasingly find it hard to get to grips with it all and the latest project means learning a brand new piece of software which normally takes months to get to a decent standard and our first deadline is end of March!
My wife has always said semi-retire at 60 and do a less stressful part time job but I seriously don't think I can wait that long.
I can feel my anxiety building and my long dormant (over 10 years since my last bad episode) depression coming to the surface.
My boss is very approachable but not sure how he will react when I ask him to take me off this new project and give me something less stressful for the next year
Right, back into another workshop
TBF it's a great company who look after it's employees but my role is very technical with constant new software learning etc..
I increasingly find it hard to get to grips with it all and the latest project means learning a brand new piece of software which normally takes months to get to a decent standard and our first deadline is end of March!
My wife has always said semi-retire at 60 and do a less stressful part time job but I seriously don't think I can wait that long.
I can feel my anxiety building and my long dormant (over 10 years since my last bad episode) depression coming to the surface.
My boss is very approachable but not sure how he will react when I ask him to take me off this new project and give me something less stressful for the next year
Right, back into another workshop
Deep Thought said:
The OG Jester said:
I now have two job offers! Jacked my job in, applied to a load of places around the same time, a few interviews and now two concrete offers.
Pondering why i didn't do this sooner.
Pondering why i didn't do this sooner.
Result!
For anyone at a crossroads, I recommend "who moved my cheese?", it's old, hokey, and definitely cheesy!
But it does help order your thoughts in your head about staying/going.
It's a very short book, video version might be on YouTube.
M.
GreatGranny said:
My wife has always said semi-retire at 60 and do a less stressful part time job but I seriously don't think I can wait that long.
I can feel my anxiety building and my long dormant (over 10 years since my last bad episode) depression coming to the surface.
I'd be looking to make a change now, by the sounds of things.I can feel my anxiety building and my long dormant (over 10 years since my last bad episode) depression coming to the surface.
Fusion777 said:
I'd be looking to make a change now, by the sounds of things.
I would love to be able to jack now and find something far less stressful, even a driving job 3-4 days a week would suit me but it would impact me financially in the long run due to me overpaying my pension and my company paying 14% contribution.Boss just rang me for a chat and I relayed my concerns, didn't go as far as saying it was affecting me mentally etc.. which I maybe should have.
Going to have a catch up Monday, he's in meetings for the rest of the day and I don't work Fridays.
GreatGranny said:
I would love to be able to jack now and find something far less stressful, even a driving job 3-4 days a week would suit me but it would impact me financially in the long run due to me overpaying my pension and my company paying 14% contribution.
Boss just rang me for a chat and I relayed my concerns, didn't go as far as saying it was affecting me mentally etc.. which I maybe should have.
Going to have a catch up Monday, he's in meetings for the rest of the day and I don't work Fridays.
Sounds like the classic golden handcuff scenario!Boss just rang me for a chat and I relayed my concerns, didn't go as far as saying it was affecting me mentally etc.. which I maybe should have.
Going to have a catch up Monday, he's in meetings for the rest of the day and I don't work Fridays.
GreatGranny said:
Approaching 59, worked for the same company in the same role for 23 years.
TBF it's a great company who look after it's employees but my role is very technical with constant new software learning etc..
I increasingly find it hard to get to grips with it all and the latest project means learning a brand new piece of software which normally takes months to get to a decent standard and our first deadline is end of March!
My wife has always said semi-retire at 60 and do a less stressful part time job but I seriously don't think I can wait that long.
I can feel my anxiety building and my long dormant (over 10 years since my last bad episode) depression coming to the surface.
My boss is very approachable but not sure how he will react when I ask him to take me off this new project and give me something less stressful for the next year
Right, back into another workshop
Get out if you can.TBF it's a great company who look after it's employees but my role is very technical with constant new software learning etc..
I increasingly find it hard to get to grips with it all and the latest project means learning a brand new piece of software which normally takes months to get to a decent standard and our first deadline is end of March!
My wife has always said semi-retire at 60 and do a less stressful part time job but I seriously don't think I can wait that long.
I can feel my anxiety building and my long dormant (over 10 years since my last bad episode) depression coming to the surface.
My boss is very approachable but not sure how he will react when I ask him to take me off this new project and give me something less stressful for the next year
Right, back into another workshop
Your mental wellbeing is something that needs to be looked after. Depression can take years to shake once it gets a grip.
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