Jacking in your job

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NAAHD

150 posts

25 months

Tuesday 20th February
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Deep Thought said:
GreatGranny said:
Approaching 59, worked for the same company in the same role for 23 years.

TBF it's a great company who look after it's employees but my role is very technical with constant new software learning etc..
I increasingly find it hard to get to grips with it all and the latest project means learning a brand new piece of software which normally takes months to get to a decent standard and our first deadline is end of March!

My wife has always said semi-retire at 60 and do a less stressful part time job but I seriously don't think I can wait that long.

I can feel my anxiety building and my long dormant (over 10 years since my last bad episode) depression coming to the surface.

My boss is very approachable but not sure how he will react when I ask him to take me off this new project and give me something less stressful for the next year smile

Right, back into another workshop frown
Get out if you can.

Your mental wellbeing is something that needs to be looked after. Depression can take years to shake once it gets a grip.
Second this on mental health taking a long time to recover from, if ever. The mind is a very complex part of the body that’s not truly understood. To me depression is like that analogy of scrumping up paper; it never goes back to the original form but it’s still useable. Anxiety is a fast track to depression as I learned first hand. What started as a bit of social anxiety spiralled into panic disorder, agoraphobia, severe OCD and ultimately depression. Before you know it, you can’t work and you lose control of your life. The road to recovery is a lot harder and longer than the road to prevention…

We only have one life that we know for certain and it can all be over in a flash so it’s not worth living miserable in my book

austina35

345 posts

52 months

Sunday 10th March
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I've now decided that I need to move on. So since the start of March, I've been actively looking for a new role. Think I've applied for 12 jobs. The 1st one I applied for has got back to me. The rest have not.

Lat Wed's I had a video call interview with the recruiter. Interview lasted 1hr 20 mins. I thought I've got interview no.2 coming as I thought it went that well.

Within the hour I had a call from the recruiter and yes, they want to see me in person. So I have a 2nd interview at their HQ. I'm quite fortunate that both interview I have managed to squeeze into my current working day so I've had to take no time off.

Salary, hols and general package is slightly better. Working conditions are a small improvement.

My only concern is it sounds too good to be true if I secure the job. We'll see in due course....

Time4another

101 posts

3 months

Sunday 10th March
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Best of luck.

Is the new job any different from what you were doing before? or the same just somewhere else?

austina35

345 posts

52 months

Sunday 10th March
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It's an engineering role for a global manufacturer. Different industry but similar in that its R &D. I get to go out and about to road test the product so my experience comes in to play.

Woodrow Wilson

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342 posts

160 months

Saturday 16th March
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Woodrow Wilson said:
The OG Jester said:
Handed my notice in today, 3 months notice period and I have no where to go.

I know I'll find something and it's giving me an extra impotence to do it.

It was pretty empowering handing my notice in. I was asked where I was going (as if it was a competitor, potential garden leave) but telling them I have nothing lined up and the place has broken me felt amazing.

The look of disbelief was wonderful for me. I have savings tucked away catering for THE WORST CASE but I'm more confident now that my skills will be snapped up elsewhere.
Good effort. As the OP, I understand this entirely.

Leaving my old job was a big, very positive, step for me.



The job I have been doing for the past year or so has been a big improvement in enjoyment, influence and satisfaction.

I have recently had some genuine interest from people who are keen for me to go back to similar jobs to the one I left. The significantly higher salaries are quite tempting, although the work will be less interesting.

Having taken a job that was lower down the corporate ladder than the previous one (in a different industry, that required some initial learning), recent events have allowed me to demonstrate various skills and abilities at my current workplace. I have become more established and prominent, gaining a bit more influence. My role is evolving into something that suits me. Interesting times.
To follow up on this, it appears that my current employer wants their pound of flesh on a very regular basis and does not wish to pay for it, despite me working at a higher level for an extended period.

"Taking the piss" sums it up.

Leaving my old job was still a good move, and I do not regret it at all, but there are some really poor employers out there and I have found one.

It has really struck me recently, why on Earth am I working myself into the ground, and being given grief for things beyond my control, in order to make rich people richer, for no extra reward to myself?

I am now looking for another employer, albeit from a position of being in a much better frame of mind than I was 18 months ago.

Edited by Woodrow Wilson on Sunday 17th March 15:43

Oilchange

8,464 posts

260 months

Sunday 17th March
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Seems to me that there was/is a culture of treating people badly, working them to the bone etc. Maybe less people tolerating it will make their businesses suffer, here's hoping

Woodrow Wilson

Original Poster:

342 posts

160 months

Sunday 17th March
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Oilchange said:
Seems to me that there was/is a culture of treating people badly, working them to the bone etc. Maybe less people tolerating it will make their businesses suffer, here's hoping
That is a strange thing, though.

People are being driven to leave, but it is very difficult for the company to recruit replacements, so what is the benefit of this management style?

I'm not sure what the overall vision for this strategy is, but there must be some very peculiar prismatic lenses involved.

Edited by Woodrow Wilson on Sunday 17th March 16:17

Oilchange

8,464 posts

260 months

Sunday 17th March
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Probably because the people who are leaving had all the niche skills and experience pertinent to that job and the bosses have peed them off so much that they've taken it away overnight.

Then they advertise the job but can't fill it because the niche skills and experience they want walked away yesterday...

Woodrow Wilson

Original Poster:

342 posts

160 months

Sunday 17th March
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Oilchange said:
Probably because the people who are leaving had all the niche skills and experience pertinent to that job and the bosses have peed them off so much that they've taken it away overnight.

Then they advertise the job but can't fill it because the niche skills and experience they want walked away yesterday...
Sorry.

What I meant to say was that management is driving people away at a time when it is very difficult to replace those people.

This seems a very short-sighted approach to business.


bristolracer

5,542 posts

149 months

Sunday 17th March
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Woodrow Wilson said:
Sorry.

What I meant to say was that management is driving people away at a time when it is very difficult to replace those people.

This seems a very short-sighted approach to business.
Managers are expected to deliver results, now ,today, so they will lean on employees because next years target is of no relevance today. We will deal with that later.



It is short sighted, but missing targets is not an option.

Woodrow Wilson

Original Poster:

342 posts

160 months

Sunday 17th March
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bristolracer said:
Woodrow Wilson said:
Sorry.

What I meant to say was that management is driving people away at a time when it is very difficult to replace those people.

This seems a very short-sighted approach to business.
Managers are expected to deliver results, now ,today, so they will lean on employees because next years target is of no relevance today. We will deal with that later.



It is short sighted, but missing targets is not an option.
The maddening thing is that if there is no actual functioning organisation left for tomorrow, meeting targets today is fairly irrelevant.

austina35

345 posts

52 months

Tuesday 19th March
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OK, 2nd interview at company HQ today. Over 2 hours with around 100 questions thrown at me.

Within 2 hours of leaving I had a verbal offer given to me. I'm awaiting a written contract now.

Then the fun begins when I give my notice to my current employer.

austina35

345 posts

52 months

Thursday 11th April
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Update. I was given a job offer after the interview. I have decided to accept. I put my notice in on 1st April. Current company panicking so try everything to keep me. I declined all offers.

Start new job in May. I can't wait.

fat80b

2,278 posts

221 months

Thursday 11th April
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Congrats.

rog007

5,759 posts

224 months

Thursday 11th April
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Congrats indeed!

RabidGranny

1,863 posts

138 months

Friday 12th April
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good man. delighted for you

MDF187

1 posts

8 months

Friday 12th April
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Great thread. smile

I had a high profile, high pressure job (leading 300 on a £50m turnover affair)
Wife became ill, so i departed to take care of her. Fast forward two years, wife gets better (thank goodness!) and i decide I’m not returning to an industry I’ve been in for thirty years.

I couldn’t believe how hard it was to find anything I’d be accepted for. Being told i was too overqualified (i’m sure there's the age thing too) and generally just being passed over. It was quite an eye-opener.

After hundreds of applications, I sent a cheeky email in to a local garden nursery and the owner has took me on. It's heaven; wonderful staff, environment and lovely older customers that aren't used to excellent customer service (i do ham it up somewhat).

I was in a quandary though. I had attended an interview for a Funeral Directors position, which after three weeks, i was verbally offered the employment. I turned it down, in favour of the already started, garden centre job. My thoughts were, i rather be in heaven (albeit for a temp three month contract) for a short time, than in a position that may not gel and be permanent.

Well, that's my 2p. Do what makes you happy, if you can.



Woodrow Wilson

Original Poster:

342 posts

160 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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austina35 said:
Update. I was given a job offer after the interview. I have decided to accept. I put my notice in on 1st April. Current company panicking so try everything to keep me. I declined all offers.

Start new job in May. I can't wait.
Good for you. Great news.

Woodrow Wilson

Original Poster:

342 posts

160 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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MDF187 said:
After hundreds of applications, I sent a cheeky email in to a local garden nursery and the owner has took me on. It's heaven; wonderful staff, environment and lovely older customers that aren't used to excellent customer service (i do ham it up somewhat).
I really enjoyed working in a couple of plant nurseries as a teenager.

Woodrow Wilson

Original Poster:

342 posts

160 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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I am still seeking a job at a similar level and level of pay to my old job. There are some interesting possibilities and I hope to move on soon.

In my current job, I have managed to extract myself from the longer hours that I was doing -for no reward or recognition- although I am still working at a higher level of responsibility than I am being paid for. I, and others, have been exploited and it has been made clear that will not change. I have been doing it for my colleagues, but it is not for the long term. Aspects of the culture are not a good fit with me anyway.


Edited by Woodrow Wilson on Tuesday 23 April 22:10