Discrimination in workplace, help please

Discrimination in workplace, help please

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Bunting2010

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55 posts

47 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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Discrimination.
Thankyou for any help

Would the following count as discrimination.

My job as a manager for a small team in the UK, taken to Amsterdam, the companies HQ. Companies explanation, higher management want to create singular management enabling closer collaboration by taking the role to Amsterdam.

My angle, discrimination due to location.

My old manager put’s me unfairly under a PIP, as I had complained about him years back, would this count as victimisation & injury to feeling under discrimination laws.

I’m finding it difficult to house the examples under the protected characteristics being.
Age, gender reassignment being married or in a civil partnership being pregnant or on maternity leave disability race including colour, nationality, ethnic or national origin religion or belief sexsexual orientation

Countdown

39,995 posts

197 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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Why do you think you're being discriminated against?

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

109 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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Bunting2010 said:
Discrimination.
Thankyou for any help

Would the following count as discrimination.

My job as a manager for a small team in the UK, taken to Amsterdam, the companies HQ. Companies explanation, higher management want to create singular management enabling closer collaboration by taking the role to Amsterdam.

My angle, discrimination due to location.

My old manager put’s me unfairly under a PIP, as I had complained about him years back, would this count as victimisation & injury to feeling under discrimination laws.

I’m finding it difficult to house the examples under the protected characteristics being.
Age, gender reassignment being married or in a civil partnership being pregnant or on maternity leave disability race including colour, nationality, ethnic or national origin religion or belief sexsexual orientation
I don't think you are, the place I work for recently made people redundant as they were localising teams.

vaud

50,648 posts

156 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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Bunting2010 said:
My old manager put’s me unfairly under a PIP, as I had complained about him years back, would this count as victimisation & injury to feeling under discrimination laws.
What are the reasons for the PIP? Objective? Subjective? Missing KPIs? Behaviour? etc

RATATTAK

11,180 posts

190 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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I'm wondering what sexsexual orientation is.

Thats What She Said

1,154 posts

89 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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You've got no chance. Negotiate a good redundancy package,

simon_harris

1,334 posts

35 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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You might have a better angle with constructive dismissal, particularly if the PIP that has been raised against you has no real merit.

Muzzer79

10,086 posts

188 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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Bunting2010 said:
Discrimination.
Thankyou for any help

Would the following count as discrimination.

My job as a manager for a small team in the UK, taken to Amsterdam, the companies HQ. Companies explanation, higher management want to create singular management enabling closer collaboration by taking the role to Amsterdam.

My angle, discrimination due to location.

My old manager put’s me unfairly under a PIP, as I had complained about him years back, would this count as victimisation & injury to feeling under discrimination laws.

I’m finding it difficult to house the examples under the protected characteristics being.
Age, gender reassignment being married or in a civil partnership being pregnant or on maternity leave disability race including colour, nationality, ethnic or national origin religion or belief sexsexual orientation
Have you been offered to do the job in Amsterdam?

If your job is moving to Amsterdam, you should be offered to go with it.

Or are you being made redundant, in that the role is now ceased and is being incorporated into other roles in Amsterdam?


edc

9,240 posts

252 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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Discrimination has a very prescribed meaning in employment law. Feelings of unfairness and inequity are not necessarily discrimination.

Ian Geary

4,500 posts

193 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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edc said:
Discrimination has a very prescribed meaning in employment law. Feelings of unfairness and inequity are not necessarily discrimination.
Doesn't seem to stop people trying whistle

Louis Balfour

26,360 posts

223 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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RATATTAK said:
I'm wondering what sexsexual orientation is.
I sometimes wonder this too.

Nurburgsingh

5,123 posts

239 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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Louis Balfour said:
RATATTAK said:
I'm wondering what sexsexual orientation is.
I sometimes wonder this too.
I believe I've seen pretty much every orientation on a stage in Amsterdam...

paulrockliffe

15,726 posts

228 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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simon_harris said:
You might have a better angle with constructive dismissal, particularly if the PIP that has been raised against you has no real merit.
The bar for Constructive Dismissal is pretty high, it'll be difficult to claim Constructive Dismissal in relation to the PIP when there's clear evidence that the OP wasn't forced to leave the company as a result. You really need to leave as soon as the Constructive Dismissal occurs, you can't just bank it for the future in case it comes in handy.

simon_harris

1,334 posts

35 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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paulrockliffe said:
simon_harris said:
You might have a better angle with constructive dismissal, particularly if the PIP that has been raised against you has no real merit.
The bar for Constructive Dismissal is pretty high, it'll be difficult to claim Constructive Dismissal in relation to the PIP when there's clear evidence that the OP wasn't forced to leave the company as a result. You really need to leave as soon as the Constructive Dismissal occurs, you can't just bank it for the future in case it comes in handy.
I didn't realise that, but interesting to note.

Sporky

6,368 posts

65 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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RATATTAK said:
I'm wondering what sexsexual orientation is.
Maybe it's a typo, and is like bisexual, but six ways instead of two?

Hoofy

76,423 posts

283 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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Can't answer for the legal aspect of it but is it worth the hassle? Time to brush up your CV?

RATATTAK

11,180 posts

190 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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Sporky said:
RATATTAK said:
I'm wondering what sexsexual orientation is.
Maybe it's a typo, and is like bisexual, but six ways instead of two?
yes
biglaugh

GilletteFan

672 posts

32 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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Doesn't sound promising. I can envisage time and monies wasted on legal fees and possibly nuclear bombed bridges.


Mortarboard

5,757 posts

56 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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Seems like they're (possibly) trying to avoid correct redundancy by managing you out (PIP)

First 30 minute session is usually free with a solicitor. Spruce up the old CV, the jobs moving anyway.

M.

Tebbers

356 posts

152 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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Sounds like you’re trying to shoehorn your situation into a discrimination claim without any cause.