Curse of the comfortable job
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z4RRSchris said:
law firms pay their NQs £160k to sit in on meetings and photocopy stuff
Ish, https://www.youtube.com/@liam.porritt/videos this guy documents his life at Clifford chance, it's about 120-140 and ive watched a few videos, definitely isn't super eay, lots of evenings and weekends.BlindedByTheLights said:
What’s an NQ and where do I apply?
Newly qualified. https://careers.cliffordchance.com/content/micro-h...
jm8403 said:
z4RRSchris said:
law firms pay their NQs £160k to sit in on meetings and photocopy stuff
Ish, https://www.youtube.com/@liam.porritt/videos this guy documents his life at Clifford chance, it's about 120-140 and ive watched a few videos, definitely isn't super eay, lots of evenings and weekends.Woodrow Wilson said:
Outside of the world of PH, the roles being discussed and the salaries are unusual.
The OP's claimed couple of hours work a day for £150K/year is very unusual.
I think the term you're seeking is 'bThe OP's claimed couple of hours work a day for £150K/year is very unusual.
ks'. There's quite a lot of self-aggrandising smoke blowing going on here so far. CharlesdeGaulle said:
Woodrow Wilson said:
Outside of the world of PH, the roles being discussed and the salaries are unusual.
The OP's claimed couple of hours work a day for £150K/year is very unusual.
I think the term you're seeking is 'bThe OP's claimed couple of hours work a day for £150K/year is very unusual.
ks'. There's quite a lot of self-aggrandising smoke blowing going on here so far. Of course, it is unusual, but when you know 100+ people in this position (well paid and no major head on line), it feels normal. The 2hrs a day thing, much more rare. I dont think ive heard anyone admit it. Yes for the junions on 50-75k.
CharlesdeGaulle said:
I think the term you're seeking is 'bks'. There's quite a lot of self-aggrandising smoke blowing going on here so far.
It’s not in big firms.ks'. There's quite a lot of self-aggrandising smoke blowing going on here so far. I’ve worked in similar conditions for 6-9 months before, once you’ve built your reputation it’s very easy to coast when working remotely. I wouldn’t recommend it, as it’s not exactly fulfilling or good for career development.
Jiebo said:
It’s not in big firms.
I’ve worked in similar conditions for 6-9 months before, once you’ve built your reputation it’s very easy to coast when working remotely. I wouldn’t recommend it, as it’s not exactly fulfilling or good for career development.
This, plus, dont take the 2hrs too literally, a lot of the other 5.5hrs is taken up by loads of crap talking to service ticket teams, endless pointless meetings about the next meeting, endless days out for whatever the weekly/monthly topic is globally, i.e. 3/4hrs last week was around diversity+inclusion, another couple of hours the week before to discuss a new global initiative, it never ends.I’ve worked in similar conditions for 6-9 months before, once you’ve built your reputation it’s very easy to coast when working remotely. I wouldn’t recommend it, as it’s not exactly fulfilling or good for career development.
jm8403 said:
Of course, it is unusual, but when you know 100+ people in this position (well paid and no major head on line), it feels normal.
It is is very unusual, and if it begins to feel normal, then there is the danger of becoming detached from the reality of the lives of 99.99% of people in the UK, especially the public servants, many of whom who work very hard for very little pay."Professionals earn 150k/year" may be true in some small, localised, circles, but they absolutely do not almost everywhere.
Having a very large salary/wealth, once the basics and a few luxuries have been covered, doesn't necessarily mean much when the novelty wears off, if somebody is bored and unfulfilled.
Having *not enough* is far worse, of course, and many people do not have enough, but enough and even "comfortable" is much lower than some of the sums mentioned on here.
Ps. Yes, £150K can stretch a lot further, away from SE England.
Edited by Woodrow Wilson on Sunday 2nd April 10:14
You've got to love PH.
OP is in the top 1% of earners in the UK but I suppose it's all relative if higher salary = bigger debts for nicer houses, cars, etc.
If I were the OP I'd make hay while the sun is shinning, pay down debts which will give more options.
Personally I'm a work to live type of person but of the OP is genuinely only doing 2hrs of work per day I'd find other rewarding stuff to do with my time, smile, wave and take the money.....
OP is in the top 1% of earners in the UK but I suppose it's all relative if higher salary = bigger debts for nicer houses, cars, etc.
If I were the OP I'd make hay while the sun is shinning, pay down debts which will give more options.
Personally I'm a work to live type of person but of the OP is genuinely only doing 2hrs of work per day I'd find other rewarding stuff to do with my time, smile, wave and take the money.....
Woodrow Wilson said:
It is is very unusual, and if it begins to feel normal, then there is the danger of becoming detached from the reality of the lives of 99.99% of people in the UK, especially the public servants, many of whom who work very hard for very little pay.
You can still know of what goes on even though you’re not affected by it yourself. Edited by Woodrow Wilson on Sunday 2nd April 10:14
okgo said:
Woodrow Wilson said:
It is is very unusual, and if it begins to feel normal, then there is the danger of becoming detached from the reality of the lives of 99.99% of people in the UK, especially the public servants, many of whom who work very hard for very little pay.
You can still know of what goes on even though you’re not affected by it yourself. Edited by Woodrow Wilson on Sunday 2nd April 10:14
Thanks again.
The point about contracting is a great one and it’s something I’ll definitely look into along with getting fulfilment outside of work.
I agree coasting isn’t ideal but not sure there’s scope to stretch my legs here. I do keep a look out for other roles and I think I could jump into something else somewhere else fairly easily.
I must say it hasn’t always been like this. I’ve been here for many years and when I joined it was a full time role but after hard work, and changes within the company the role has reduced and I think will reduce a little more over the next 3 year.
I think my boss has been fighting my corner. I had a few one to ones with him this year and he really wanted me to stay. He got me a 16% pay increase to try and keep me. Pretty decent I thought considering no change in role.
I‘ve often made my boss look great and after all it’s not his money so I guess that’s why he wouldn’t want me to leave. It’s agro for him and I make his life easier. That said he also shields me from the politics and office BS above so it’s not one way.
The salary is about right for the role but it’s a full time salary when the role is part time. I don’t think they will find many people wanting to do it part time. Also I’m pretty good at it, it would take someone else longer.
I wouldn’t call myself a senior employee but there’s an expectation that if critical they can contact me. Even if I have to say it myself they get great service when they need it.
The point about contracting is a great one and it’s something I’ll definitely look into along with getting fulfilment outside of work.
I agree coasting isn’t ideal but not sure there’s scope to stretch my legs here. I do keep a look out for other roles and I think I could jump into something else somewhere else fairly easily.
I must say it hasn’t always been like this. I’ve been here for many years and when I joined it was a full time role but after hard work, and changes within the company the role has reduced and I think will reduce a little more over the next 3 year.
I think my boss has been fighting my corner. I had a few one to ones with him this year and he really wanted me to stay. He got me a 16% pay increase to try and keep me. Pretty decent I thought considering no change in role.
I‘ve often made my boss look great and after all it’s not his money so I guess that’s why he wouldn’t want me to leave. It’s agro for him and I make his life easier. That said he also shields me from the politics and office BS above so it’s not one way.
The salary is about right for the role but it’s a full time salary when the role is part time. I don’t think they will find many people wanting to do it part time. Also I’m pretty good at it, it would take someone else longer.
I wouldn’t call myself a senior employee but there’s an expectation that if critical they can contact me. Even if I have to say it myself they get great service when they need it.
GS2 said:
I think my boss has been fighting my corner. I had a few one to ones with him this year and he really wanted me to stay. He got me a 16% pay increase to try and keep me. Pretty decent I thought considering no change in role.
I‘ve often made my boss look great and after all it’s not his money so I guess that’s why he wouldn’t want me to leave. It’s agro for him and I make his life easier. That said he also shields me from the politics and office BS above so it’s not one way.
It sounds as if you are in a very fortunate position, and the boss wants to keep you.I‘ve often made my boss look great and after all it’s not his money so I guess that’s why he wouldn’t want me to leave. It’s agro for him and I make his life easier. That said he also shields me from the politics and office BS above so it’s not one way.
16%!
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