Curse of the comfortable job
Discussion
SteveStrange said:
If, IF, this is a serious post, then £150k for a couple of hours work a day and you're wondering if it's sustainable?
Only on PH.
F the work, just do it, suck it up, and spend the (frankly, huge) sums you are getting on paying the mortgage off within 4 years, and then living the high life, a new (very nice) car every couple of years, decent holidays, nice hobbies etc.
But a part of me wants to call first post bull-s
tteryness.
agree with all of that.Only on PH.
F the work, just do it, suck it up, and spend the (frankly, huge) sums you are getting on paying the mortgage off within 4 years, and then living the high life, a new (very nice) car every couple of years, decent holidays, nice hobbies etc.
But a part of me wants to call first post bull-s
tteryness. so a big IF you're serious, use the time and money you earn to do something for yourself on the side. start a business.
GS2 said:
It's a serious post. I'm sure other people who have been in the same situation will understand.
It's true I could leave and find a new role for the same salary but I expect it will involve a few more hours.
When you do same thing for a while the challange is maybe 2 hrs in the day and the rest of time is going through the motions.It's true I could leave and find a new role for the same salary but I expect it will involve a few more hours.
I work for a consultancy now post ir35 so earn less and would you believe as a result I don't work as hard so I get where you come from. Do something other people can't do get good at it make loads of money but mostly for a big faceless off shore corporation well why push yourself.
Pay mortgage off put cash aside retire early
Gecko1978 said:
When you do same thing for a while the challange is maybe 2 hrs in the day and the rest of time is going through the motions.
I work for a consultancy now post ir35 so earn less and would you believe as a result I don't work as hard so I get where you come from. Do something other people can't do get good at it make loads of money but mostly for a big faceless off shore corporation well why push yourself.
Pay mortgage off put cash aside retire early
This ^^^^^I work for a consultancy now post ir35 so earn less and would you believe as a result I don't work as hard so I get where you come from. Do something other people can't do get good at it make loads of money but mostly for a big faceless off shore corporation well why push yourself.
Pay mortgage off put cash aside retire early
I think the above post is an interesting one.
I left a job last year that was not vastly different, the company was secure, the pay was good (actually a fair chunk higher than your numbers to make you feel that you're not alone in money not being everything), the people great, and the workload fairly minimal if I was honest.
However, I knew I wouldn't want to be doing it forever and I also could imagine I wouldn't be suitable for the role in time either, if it even existed, you may be able to say the same of yourself. So I made a move with the idea of essentially challenging myself, but also in trying to achieve what alscar said above - once you're making decent money the journey to not needing to work all that much probably takes less time than you think, and knowing that actually can motivate you in a different way than before.
I actually have been quite enjoying the optimisation of income (both mine and my wife's) as a side project, and knowing that probably I could stop working in not that many years (35 now) is quite refreshing and makes you think about things differently.
Obviously we are the same age, but a lot of how you play things will be down to your situation, family etc.
I left a job last year that was not vastly different, the company was secure, the pay was good (actually a fair chunk higher than your numbers to make you feel that you're not alone in money not being everything), the people great, and the workload fairly minimal if I was honest.
However, I knew I wouldn't want to be doing it forever and I also could imagine I wouldn't be suitable for the role in time either, if it even existed, you may be able to say the same of yourself. So I made a move with the idea of essentially challenging myself, but also in trying to achieve what alscar said above - once you're making decent money the journey to not needing to work all that much probably takes less time than you think, and knowing that actually can motivate you in a different way than before.
I actually have been quite enjoying the optimisation of income (both mine and my wife's) as a side project, and knowing that probably I could stop working in not that many years (35 now) is quite refreshing and makes you think about things differently.
Obviously we are the same age, but a lot of how you play things will be down to your situation, family etc.
alscar said:
Doubt a real story but just in case it is - OP , at the money you are earning you won’t need to work for another 30 years as assume you are also putting in lots of money now into a Pension.
If you have nothing saved so far and put in c30% salary at a 5% return you'd have c£1.8-2m by age 55. Which assuming a 3% return post retirement and no other income about 20-25yrs with a £50k (todays value) income. Assuming salary inflation of about 2%/yr.
My old man through investments & final salary pension managed to retire at 54, did a couple of years consultancy, but mainly has loved his c20-25yrs retirement.
I can relate 100%, most of the jobs I've left have been on the basis I've got bored and not had enough to do.
While getting paid lots for doing little looks ideal for many, it is soul destroying after a while and isn't sustainable.
But you'd only know that if you'd been in that position.
While getting paid lots for doing little looks ideal for many, it is soul destroying after a while and isn't sustainable.
But you'd only know that if you'd been in that position.
Another one in a similar position.
I'm 40, been at my job/role for 15 years and nowhere to go (upwards or sideways). Salary higher than OP. For the last 7-8 years I have been silent quitting to use a modern term, just doing the bare minimum to get by and spending vast portions of my days on the internet. Trying to stay as low profile as possible and withdrawing from the politics of the job - it is quite a toxic environment.
It IS absolutely soul destroying, the thought that you have another 20+ years ahead of you and nothing will change, you are stuck there forever. It is so soul destroying that it put me in depression which I'm only recently doing something about.
I am so fed up with it, that I have asked to be made redundant, with no job lined up after.
It is terrifying but also incredibly exciting, I can now take some time to pick a job that's really for me, make sure the team/environment is a fit, while also having an opportunity to "reformat" my profile.
Don't listen to those who tell you to put up with it and carry on. Do what you feel will make you happier.
It ain't spending half of your waking life in a job that makes you miserable...
I'm 40, been at my job/role for 15 years and nowhere to go (upwards or sideways). Salary higher than OP. For the last 7-8 years I have been silent quitting to use a modern term, just doing the bare minimum to get by and spending vast portions of my days on the internet. Trying to stay as low profile as possible and withdrawing from the politics of the job - it is quite a toxic environment.
It IS absolutely soul destroying, the thought that you have another 20+ years ahead of you and nothing will change, you are stuck there forever. It is so soul destroying that it put me in depression which I'm only recently doing something about.
I am so fed up with it, that I have asked to be made redundant, with no job lined up after.
It is terrifying but also incredibly exciting, I can now take some time to pick a job that's really for me, make sure the team/environment is a fit, while also having an opportunity to "reformat" my profile.
Don't listen to those who tell you to put up with it and carry on. Do what you feel will make you happier.
It ain't spending half of your waking life in a job that makes you miserable...
Step 1 - convert to working from home full time.
Step 2 - do the two hours work a day you need to do, in two hours.
Step 3 - do all sort of great things with the spare time; start a business, learn new things, get fit etc.
Also - save like a pro for the day it come to an end. You ought to be able to save a lot, pay off the mortgage etc.
Step 2 - do the two hours work a day you need to do, in two hours.
Step 3 - do all sort of great things with the spare time; start a business, learn new things, get fit etc.
Also - save like a pro for the day it come to an end. You ought to be able to save a lot, pay off the mortgage etc.
ARHarh said:
I think the reality is more likely that if the job is only taking a couple of hours a day, that within a few years someone will notice. They will stop it happening, most likely with redundancy. These things don't last forever, they never do. Either make the most of it by keeping your skills relevant, or setting up something to fill your time when they sack you make you redundant
This....JFC those earning £150k plus and bored of their job need to have a bit more imagination. Do you not realise that you have reached the panacea of employment? Minimal input, maximum gains. As long as you're not hugely stressed out or exhausted after work, then get out there and do something meaningful TO YOU.
Whether that be some form of self improvement, travel, a hobby, sport, whatever you like.
If you're feeling unfulfilled, then go and volunteer. You could go and be a special constable, work at a food bank or charity, mountain rescue or RNLI. If you like the outdoors, volunteer in a National Park or some kind of group that involves the disabled.
The only thing stopping you getting out of this funk is your imagination.
Whether that be some form of self improvement, travel, a hobby, sport, whatever you like.
If you're feeling unfulfilled, then go and volunteer. You could go and be a special constable, work at a food bank or charity, mountain rescue or RNLI. If you like the outdoors, volunteer in a National Park or some kind of group that involves the disabled.
The only thing stopping you getting out of this funk is your imagination.
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