Curse of the comfortable job
Discussion
deja.vu said:
SE in a vendor land will comfortably earn that some will work hard and some don’t
I’ve had SE’s who have done the square root of f
k all.
Apologies for my lack of knowledge- what is an SE? Is it Tech Support as per the OP?I’ve had SE’s who have done the square root of f
k all. Again, seeing job adverts for these roles would be useful in seeing what Employers expected.
Senior Engineer
What they expect is something like a minimum of 15 years experience with current deep knowledge of an in-demand technology, in a rich industry or consultancy.
I’ve got a role similar to this. It’s taken me 20 years to get there.
These are also primarily roles where the responsibility of the role far outweighs the actual productive work of the role. Even if they are ‘just support’.
But if you want an example of an actual job…. This one will pay comfortably over 100k in the U.K. and is basically putting together demos for customer sales pitches… it’s a technical sales support role.
https://salesforce.wd1.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Ext...
What they expect is something like a minimum of 15 years experience with current deep knowledge of an in-demand technology, in a rich industry or consultancy.
I’ve got a role similar to this. It’s taken me 20 years to get there.
These are also primarily roles where the responsibility of the role far outweighs the actual productive work of the role. Even if they are ‘just support’.
But if you want an example of an actual job…. This one will pay comfortably over 100k in the U.K. and is basically putting together demos for customer sales pitches… it’s a technical sales support role.
https://salesforce.wd1.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Ext...
Edited by CheesecakeRunner on Wednesday 12th April 06:54
"'solutions" not " senior".
Job descriptions wont help countdown.
Oddly they don't mention, going to the gym, meeting mates, watching tipping point and taking / collecting the kids from school.
Once you go from UK to EMEA to global, you can add in a whole load of traveling the world "doing some enablement", a few client / partner meetings and drinking lots.
Job descriptions wont help countdown.
Oddly they don't mention, going to the gym, meeting mates, watching tipping point and taking / collecting the kids from school.
Once you go from UK to EMEA to global, you can add in a whole load of traveling the world "doing some enablement", a few client / partner meetings and drinking lots.
GS2 said:
I could leave and find a new role for the same salary but I expect it will involve a few more hours.
How would that be a step forward though? You'd just be doing the same thing (but taking more time to do it) and asking yourself the same question as now. Short of a complete career change it's hard to see what the options are. 
NFU were an IT Manager (want to say service delivery) for 80/90k range plus bonus and benefits, not a bad amount for the Midlands.
I have seen other roles in London posted on JobServe within the Service Delivery space with guidelines of 90k+ bonus etc. Granted not a 150k salary but potential to be
I have seen other roles in London posted on JobServe within the Service Delivery space with guidelines of 90k+ bonus etc. Granted not a 150k salary but potential to be
EmilA said:
NFU were an IT Manager (want to say service delivery) for 80/90k range plus bonus and benefits, not a bad amount for the Midlands.
I have seen other roles in London posted on JobServe within the Service Delivery space with guidelines of 90k+ bonus etc. Granted not a 150k salary but potential to be
Exactly, not 150k on the nose, but a lot of people here would think 90-150k's jobs which are very comfortable are rare. The salaries are rarely advertised but there is plenty here providing evidence of it. Granted, many of them, people have a lot of experience.I have seen other roles in London posted on JobServe within the Service Delivery space with guidelines of 90k+ bonus etc. Granted not a 150k salary but potential to be
It's worth looking at the ONS data too
https://www.ons.gov.uk/visualisations/dvc2189/bees...
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/percentil...
£90K p.a. is up in the 96th percentile
There are ~ 33 million employees in the UK
So you would expect 1.3 million to be on 90K
There are about 600k workers in the City of London, and 6 million in London overall
London is not as skewed as might be expected, although its 95th percentile is 120k the 90th percentile is 80.7K. My cursory google didn't find the percentile for 90K itself, but it would probably be the 91st percentile.
So 9% of London as a whole, or 540,000 of the total 1.3 million people pulling in 90k+
Which still leaves three quarters of a million people, outside London, earning 90K plus
(750,000 of 27 million being just under 3%)
Nowhere near as rare as one might think, but also not exactly a mainstream income either.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/visualisations/dvc2189/bees...
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/percentil...
£90K p.a. is up in the 96th percentile
There are ~ 33 million employees in the UK
So you would expect 1.3 million to be on 90K
There are about 600k workers in the City of London, and 6 million in London overall
London is not as skewed as might be expected, although its 95th percentile is 120k the 90th percentile is 80.7K. My cursory google didn't find the percentile for 90K itself, but it would probably be the 91st percentile.
So 9% of London as a whole, or 540,000 of the total 1.3 million people pulling in 90k+
Which still leaves three quarters of a million people, outside London, earning 90K plus
(750,000 of 27 million being just under 3%)
Nowhere near as rare as one might think, but also not exactly a mainstream income either.
Flooble said:
It's worth looking at the ONS data too
https://www.ons.gov.uk/visualisations/dvc2189/bees...
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/percentil...
£90K p.a. is up in the 96th percentile
There are ~ 33 million employees in the UK
So you would expect 1.3 million to be on 90K
There are about 600k workers in the City of London, and 6 million in London overall
London is not as skewed as might be expected, although its 95th percentile is 120k the 90th percentile is 80.7K. My cursory google didn't find the percentile for 90K itself, but it would probably be the 91st percentile.
So 9% of London as a whole, or 540,000 of the total 1.3 million people pulling in 90k+
Which still leaves three quarters of a million people, outside London, earning 90K plus
(750,000 of 27 million being just under 3%)
Nowhere near as rare as one might think, but also not exactly a mainstream income either.
Yeah and if you are one of them, it's likely you know plenty of others in same boat.https://www.ons.gov.uk/visualisations/dvc2189/bees...
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/percentil...
£90K p.a. is up in the 96th percentile
There are ~ 33 million employees in the UK
So you would expect 1.3 million to be on 90K
There are about 600k workers in the City of London, and 6 million in London overall
London is not as skewed as might be expected, although its 95th percentile is 120k the 90th percentile is 80.7K. My cursory google didn't find the percentile for 90K itself, but it would probably be the 91st percentile.
So 9% of London as a whole, or 540,000 of the total 1.3 million people pulling in 90k+
Which still leaves three quarters of a million people, outside London, earning 90K plus
(750,000 of 27 million being just under 3%)
Nowhere near as rare as one might think, but also not exactly a mainstream income either.
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