Change job or not? Advice needed
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The thing with jobs that pay £75k and don't require very much work, is that they're not usually very secure. The gravy train is nice whilst it runs, but when the music stops it can stop. You're already conditioned into not doing much for a job paying double the average wage. Many jobs have more responsibility and work involved than yours, but for half the pay.
I'd want to move because I'd want career progression and security, plus not to be exposed for too long to what is effectively a non-job as a 'professional mate' for your current director.
You seem to have reasonable financial security so the move isn't a big risk.
Why wouldn't you jump at it?
I'd want to move because I'd want career progression and security, plus not to be exposed for too long to what is effectively a non-job as a 'professional mate' for your current director.
You seem to have reasonable financial security so the move isn't a big risk.
Why wouldn't you jump at it?
Forester1965 said:
The thing with jobs that pay £75k and don't require very much work, is that they're not usually very secure. The gravy train is nice whilst it runs, but when the music stops it can stop. You're already conditioned into not doing much for a job paying double the average wage. Many jobs have more responsibility and work involved than yours, but for half the pay.
I'd want to move because I'd want career progression and security, plus not to be exposed for too long to what is effectively a non-job as a 'professional mate' for your current director.
You seem to have reasonable financial security so the move isn't a big risk.
Why wouldn't you jump at it?
This would be my thinking as well. One question I ask myself every year is "After the year of work I have just done, am I more employable or less employable than I was a year ago?" - or if you are not learning / improving / doing more than the year before, then you are falling behind......(which is not necessarily a bad thing, but it's better to be aware of it than oblivious)I'd want to move because I'd want career progression and security, plus not to be exposed for too long to what is effectively a non-job as a 'professional mate' for your current director.
You seem to have reasonable financial security so the move isn't a big risk.
Why wouldn't you jump at it?
The danger of a cushy job with a director as a mate is whilst it is good fun and relatively easy, it is probably reducing your career safety long term - i.e. Every year you do this non-job, you are a year more stale than the competition that you might find yourself up against should the worst happen and you don't want to find yourself unemployed in a few years struggling to find a replacement role.
If it's about your career, think about what the move would be in 5 years.
Certainly, the argument against moving purely for the money is correct - it's not much and requires much more effort (than your current gig). But could the job you're considering get you into a much more senior role in a couple of years, with a much bigger jump in salary?
Certainly, the argument against moving purely for the money is correct - it's not much and requires much more effort (than your current gig). But could the job you're considering get you into a much more senior role in a couple of years, with a much bigger jump in salary?
Dude, life is hard enough. Why burn yourself for 15 grand which is what... way under a grand a month after tax. It isn't going to change your life but stress and a hard life will definitely change your life. Been there done the bigger job I didn't really want and it caused me big problems. I think some people want the title bigger career etc. Other people think they want it (as we are supposed to want it) and actually don't listen to yourself inside. What I'm hearing from you is you don't really want it and aren't sure if you want it or not on the surface. If you really wanted it you would know. That's what I reckon anyway. Your spare hours can count towards your post count on ph 
Definitely stick...don't twist!
Current contract I'm on requires me for even less, currently working 22 hours a month booking 240,but I have to be on site most of that,data n books taking a battering!
You might call it a meaningless job,but as my current placement,if the rest of the firm I work for knew about it they'd be stabbing me in the back to get it,sounds to me very like you work for a Terry Thomas character,stick with it I say
Current contract I'm on requires me for even less, currently working 22 hours a month booking 240,but I have to be on site most of that,data n books taking a battering!
You might call it a meaningless job,but as my current placement,if the rest of the firm I work for knew about it they'd be stabbing me in the back to get it,sounds to me very like you work for a Terry Thomas character,stick with it I say
Gary29 said:
If it were me, I'd stick with what you've already got, sounds like you're on to a good thing.
It's a big roll of the dice to upset the apple cart for an extra £15K.
Unless your goal is to climb the corporate ladder as high as you can.
agreed.It's a big roll of the dice to upset the apple cart for an extra £15K.
Unless your goal is to climb the corporate ladder as high as you can.
that extra few hundred a month take home could equal alot more hassle. extra working hours. more stress.
id stay stick
Just wanted to say there’s a lot of similarities in our situations, except I’m now unemployed. Be careful, whilst your boss might value the fact you’re carrying a lot of their job for them, if times get tough your role is the one at risk in my view.
If I was you I’d take the new job, be happy you had a good run and a relatively easy ride, and crack on.
If I was you I’d take the new job, be happy you had a good run and a relatively easy ride, and crack on.
loskie said:
I'm always quite critical of folks wowed by a "job title" we have several where I work
The thing is, I don't really give as stuff what I'm called, from my perspective, and when this weird title was made up for me, I just laughed about it and said they could call me whatever they wanted.The only reason I now consider it to be a slight issue is how other employers might view it. Like many on this thread, others in the industry have already jokingly commented on my titled as in 'WTF does that mean?' and I'm just trying to protect my CV slightly, however odd that sounds.
Someotherusername said:
Just wanted to say there’s a lot of similarities in our situations, except I’m now unemployed. Be careful, whilst your boss might value the fact you’re carrying a lot of their job for them, if times get tough your role is the one at risk in my view.
If I was you I’d take the new job, be happy you had a good run and a relatively easy ride, and crack on.
A couple of people have made similar points, and I completely get where they are coming from. When people start to seek cost cuttings, my role would be very carefully examined, and I guess there would be pushback onto my boss for having me as what is basically an advisor and assistant, despite the fact that I do personally deliver some quite big projects for the business. If I was you I’d take the new job, be happy you had a good run and a relatively easy ride, and crack on.
for me 15k wouldn't be enough to move, not sure if its been posted but what happens if the new role doesn't deliver for you or if you are unable to deliver for it?
Maybe the new role could be better in a few years but it might not be?
I would be trying to work a plan to develop in your current role
Maybe the new role could be better in a few years but it might not be?
I would be trying to work a plan to develop in your current role
Update:
I have decided to not accept the offer of the new job.
I have politely declined it. They were a bit disappointed but understood my reasons why I wanted to stay where I was at - flexibility, working hours, enjoy the current job, etc.
As posters have said, it’s less than £145 a week increase after tax, and I do have a really good arrangement at the moment which works very well given that I have a young kid.
I have decided to not accept the offer of the new job.
I have politely declined it. They were a bit disappointed but understood my reasons why I wanted to stay where I was at - flexibility, working hours, enjoy the current job, etc.
As posters have said, it’s less than £145 a week increase after tax, and I do have a really good arrangement at the moment which works very well given that I have a young kid.
Goldman Sachs said:
loskie said:
I'm always quite critical of folks wowed by a "job title" we have several where I work
The thing is, I don't really give as stuff what I'm called, from my perspective, and when this weird title was made up for me, I just laughed about it and said they could call me whatever they wanted.The only reason I now consider it to be a slight issue is how other employers might view it. Like many on this thread, others in the industry have already jokingly commented on my titled as in 'WTF does that mean?' and I'm just trying to protect my CV slightly, however odd that sounds.
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