When do you decide to change jobs?

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redrabbit29 said:

My question was about when to consider a new position, especially when the current is absolutely fine.

Tbh the only person who can answer that is You. Nobody else is in the same situation, has the same ambitions, the same stresses/irritations......

It's a bit like saying "Should I have fish and chips tonight or should I have pizza?"

[jasonrobertson86]

redrabbit29 said:

True but one of those was the week I started when my immediate manager had resigned the day before I started. Also after leaving my previous role of 17 years.

The other two are around the same time period (June and August 2023) when I was still on my own with no team or support.

Times have moved on and for around 10 months it's been absolutely fine. I'm due a promotion in a month but not sure I want to stay long term for various reasons. I've applied to Microsoft just to consider my options.

To be very clear I'm happy and I'm not desperate to move. My question was about when to consider a new position, especially when the current is absolutely fine.

Yes, definitely consider it, see how it looks/sounds.

[redrabbit29]

Fish and chips

Good point though. Thank you for your help, it's appreciated.

Thanks to everyone else too. Will update if anything interesting happens

[InformationSuperHighway]

redrabbit29 said:

Just to be clear, I am very happy with my pay and the conditions are good. That was why my question was more about other aspects.

For me primarily, it's that I am not working to my potential and think I may have a better career path elsewhere. Particularly as there is not much progression in my company as it is a small consultancy and I am in a specialised field.

See my 'Question 2' I posted above.

If one of the three questions are a 'no' you should look... but not run out of the door.

Sounds like that is the case here.

[heisthegaffer]

redrabbit29 said:

Season's greetings,



Not so good things
My team are a mixed bag, I often feel like I am carrying those who work in my region
There's a real lack of team ethic/comraderie and general "togetherness". This does exist in some remote jobs, but not this one
I am not using my previous management skills/experience. Part of me feels I am not working to my potential.

OP, is there anything you can do to influence the comraderie at all? Any way of getting everyone together to meet and build relationships?

If you're carrying people, can you assign them projects to take some if this back?

Re management skills, is there any volunteering you can do to utilise and grow these skills?

Your life balance sounds brilliant and I would be astonished if a large corporate such as MS offers anything anywhere near this level of flex. I would love something similar myself.

[jasonrobertson86]

heisthegaffer said:

OP, is there anything you can do to influence the comraderie at all? Any way of getting everyone together to meet and build relationships?

If you're carrying people, can you assign them projects to take some if this back?

Re management skills, is there any volunteering you can do to utilise and grow these skills?

Your life balance sounds brilliant and I would be astonished if a large corporate such as MS offers anything anywhere near this level of flex. I would love something similar myself.

Several large corps still offer this massive level of wfh, I know, because I have it. I could do office 0 days a week (for a few weeks) or every day, if I like. standard is 2 days.

[okgo]

I work for a large public tech company. It’s remote only. For all staff, globally. 6000 people.

[omniflow]

You really are overthinking this.

There is no magic formula or Eureka moment.

Apply for the MS job and see what happens. You MIGHT get an interview and you MIGHT even get offered the job. How you feel when you do or don't succeed in this application will tell you a lot more about what's right for you than advice from random strangers on the Internet.

[jasonrobertson86]

omniflow said:

You really are overthinking this.

There is no magic formula or Eureka moment.

Apply for the MS job and see what happens. You MIGHT get an interview and you MIGHT even get offered the job. How you feel when you do or don't succeed in this application will tell you a lot more about what's right for you than advice from random strangers on the Internet.

I think he has come to that conclusion, thanks to the random strangers on the internet.

[LukeyP_]

Coming as a line manager now, I'd say go for it - get the experience of interviewing within a global setup - it can either go two ways, then deal with the dilemma if/when it comes.