Redundancy - Helping my Employer Prepare for my Departure?

[asfault]

deserialisethis said:

^^^ that’s not how redundancy works though ^^

Redundancy typically means the role is no longer required because the work doesn’t need doing.

I got made redundant along with a few others mid January. We put our feet up as soon as we were told. I had a couple of questions from one or two mates but there was absolutely zero expectation from the wider organisation that we would be “doing” anything. After all, our roles (and therefore the work we were doing) were “redundant”.

Well yes i know redundancy is "your job role no longer exists" but in reality the jobs still need done and are just rebadged or split between others to save money.

[InitialDave]

asfault said:

Well yes i know redundancy is "your job role no longer exists" but in reality the jobs still need done and are just rebadged or split between others to save money.

Yes, but if you're making that decision, you should establish what the potentially redundant role actually does, which parts of that are still required, who can do them instead, and what training etc they need to do so... before making the decision.

[Sporky]

asfault said:

Well yes i know redundancy is "your job role no longer exists" but in reality the jobs still need done and are just rebadged or split between others to save money.

That's not always the case though. Sometimes an entire business function is being ceased. Sometimes the role is made redundant because there's less work to do, and doesn't require as many staff.

[Some Gump]

It takes years to build a reputation, you can ruin it in hours.

Do the meetings. Support the team.

One of the people you help now will be potentially influential years down the line. Keep doors open, it pays dividends in the long run...

[wombleh]

IMO it's best to help out so you're remembered positively by the folk working there. You can give them the information over a few weeks, but you're not going to be able to transfer years of knowledge and experience in that time, so it's not going to rule out potential consulting gigs in future. Being unhelpful or obstinate most likely will.

[Sir Bagalot]

Sporky said:

My first thought is that they shouldn't have made the position redundant if they'll still need the work done once it's happened.

Maybe offer to do consultancy for them once you've gone, at appropriately hilarious rates?

First reply is spot on.

I knew someone who was had a specific project role. He was made redundant with decent terms. He was due to leave on Friday when a few days before his boss pulled him and offered him a contract role.

His permie role finished on the Friday.
His contract role started on the Monday.

The only difference between the two roles was the pay. His contact role paid treble. The contract role lasted another 18 months.

Seriously, offer your services as a consultant.

[Giantt]

Some Gump said:

It takes years to build a reputation, you can ruin it in hours.

Do the meetings. Support the team.

One of the people you help now will be potentially influential years down the line. Keep doors open, it pays dividends in the long run...

Sounds a bit like, turn the other cheek.....get slapped twice!
Depends if the reputation you want to uphold is one of being a chump?

[deserialisethis]

Some Gump said:

It takes years to build a reputation, you can ruin it in hours.

Do the meetings. Support the team.

One of the people you help now will be potentially influential years down the line. Keep doors open, it pays dividends in the long run...

A massive factor that plays into this is how the situation is handled by the organisation (as a whole) as well as your managers etc.

In my case, 4 weeks before being told I was out of a job I'd been given a new role, title, and all of the responsibilities that go with that. Not only that, there was a pretty robust personal development programme put in place to assist me in the transition.

Come back to work after a couple of weeks off over Christmas to a mystery meeting in my calendar and get told "sorry mate, gonna have to let you go, thanks for all the fish".

Line manager and mentor then messaged me and tells me he was completely blindsided by it and had no idea it was happening until 5 mins after I'd been told.

Proper kick in the balls that was.

[Octoposse]

Thanks for the replies people - I was a bit down for a while.

Update: I’ve negotiated a slightly earlier departure date, so just another three weeks to go.

One of the real bitter taste moments was a very upbeat invitation from a partner agency to a meeting to pick my brains about data. Except I’d already applied for an advertised role there - evidenced every requirement on the application, two good interviews . . . and the post went to the internal candidate! So I declined that meeting (being helpful with others).

Also finishing the last two projects I’m working on to an officially awesome standard - so that I’ll be missed!

I can’t see that there’ll be any prospect of consultancy work at my (soon to be ex-) employer . . . they’ve shovelled out dosh in the past, but there’s a real budget crunch now.

[Deesee]

Personally, take your rolodex, take the leave, and let them come back to you..

If your are motivated enough, private or public your clients will move with you.. you will find them..