Lying About My A Level Grades

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Marty Funkhouser

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5,427 posts

182 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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Should I? I am in the process of applying for Training Contracts and what are the chances they'll actually check??

Has anyone been asked to prove their grades? Ever?

bigandclever

13,821 posts

239 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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Obtaining property or pecuniary advantage by deception is fraud. There's 'embellishment' and there's 'lying' smile

Muzzer

3,814 posts

222 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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To answer your question, I've never been asked to prove them and I don't know anyone who has.

I don't know of anyone who's been asked to provide certificates as evidence of anything in fact.

I've often thought that I could claim to be degree-educated in something non-specific and never be challenged on it. If I was questioned about which Uni I went to, I could claim it was one my mates went to as I spent a lot of time visiting there so knew the layout, etc to answer questions if I encountered a student actually from there.

BUT, you have to ask yourself, is it worth it?

If you were found out straight away you wouldn't get in the door but if you got the job and were subsequently found out later in your career there you'd be sacked and it'd be on your record, etc.

Some might say that's a small risk but you never know how these things will come back to bite you on the arse in later life.

Engineer1

10,486 posts

210 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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If you do and they find out then it's a clear your desk and leave situation.

blueg33

36,096 posts

225 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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As an employer, I would be well pissed off if I found out someone had lied about qualifications and materially lied about experience.

I would consider it to be gross mis-conduct and that results in dismissal.

Sometimes I do do check exam results particularly if an individuals performance does not match their claimed abilities.

Planet Claire

3,324 posts

210 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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I've had to show exam certificates for my current job (and previous ones too if I remember correctly). It's just not worth taking the risk in my opinion.

Edited to add.. In my CV I just list the subjects that I passed, but I don't give the grades, although you might not be able to do that if you are completing an application form. One of my A-level grades is crap but I still put it down if requested.

Edited by Planet Claire on Thursday 3rd June 17:29

nonuts

15,855 posts

230 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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Were they st, is that why you want to lie?

Marty Funkhouser

Original Poster:

5,427 posts

182 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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I'm not seriously considering it, it is tempting though....I've done about 30 applications and been 100% honest so far.

Marty Funkhouser

Original Poster:

5,427 posts

182 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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nonuts said:
Were they st, is that why you want to lie?
Well there wouldnt be much point if they were outstanding, would there?

turbotongue

7,573 posts

181 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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Definitely don't do it if it is a anything but a small company. I have been checked twice. Not worth the risk.

Mr E

21,716 posts

260 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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Muzzer said:
I've often thought that I could claim to be degree-educated in something non-specific and never be challenged on it.
I've been asked to provide my degree certificate a couple of times. How the company determined it was genuine and not something I knocked up on a printer I don't know (I'm assume they contact the uni who confirm the degree?)

10JH

2,070 posts

195 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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My gf just got a job and they asked to see her A-Level and Degree certificates, not worth it imo.

How much were you planning on lying on? Changing everything up one grade or worse?

Targarama

14,636 posts

284 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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Don't do it. The sheer fact you are thinking of it worries me. If you got a bad grade or two then maybe you are not cut out for the job you're going for? You can always re-take the exams if you think you deserve a better grade for whatever reason.

MentalSarcasm

6,083 posts

212 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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I know three people who were asked to provide copies of their degree and A Level certificates, one of whom was asked to do so AFTER they had offered him the job while they were sorting out the contracts and paperwork.

Like everyone said, it's not worth it. Far easier to explain a bad grade than it is to explain why you were fired from your last job if your employer discovers you lied about your grades and dismisses you.

ShadownINja

76,470 posts

283 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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10JH said:
My gf just got a job and they asked to see her A-Level and Degree certificates, not worth it imo.

How much were you planning on lying on? Changing everything up one grade or worse?
Why would you claim you got worse grades? Oh, wait, you meant... biggrin

N Dentressangle

3,442 posts

223 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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You must be nuts. You'll have a lifetime of looking over your shoulder, of butterflies whenever your boss says 'Marty - can I have a word with you in my office for a moment please?'

If the grades weren't good enough, re-sit. Alternatively, go and do something with your life which proves your abilities and worth and then re-apply in a year or two.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,274 posts

236 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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Marty Funkhouser said:
Should I? I am in the process of applying for Training Contracts and what are the chances they'll actually check??

Has anyone been asked to prove their grades? Ever?
Great employee you'll be. Trust is the most important attribute & you just failed.

Nitwit

10JH

2,070 posts

195 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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Cool username btw OP!

nonuts

15,855 posts

230 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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Marty Funkhouser said:
nonuts said:
Were they st, is that why you want to lie?
Well there wouldnt be much point if they were outstanding, would there?
Depends how st, I'd see no point in changing a C / B to an A and if he changes a U or whatever to something better I'd be hell get caught out at some point.

Marty Funkhouser

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182 months

Thursday 3rd June 2010
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musclecarmad said:
Marty Funkhouser said:
Should I? I am in the process of applying for Training Contracts and what are the chances they'll actually check??

Has anyone been asked to prove their grades? Ever?
Of course people check - 100% so. especially now law firms can be very picky about who they take on.

Good luck with your career - law is quite saturated at the moment.
Cheers - all decent jobs are saturated.