Leadership

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blueg33

36,015 posts

225 months

Monday 21st February 2011
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I would choose Tom (assuming I have to choose one of them) but I would send him of a leadership training course. In my experience the best leaders don't know everything but they know who to listen to. The leader has to win hearts and minds and Tom has a head start at that.

Examples -

Richard Branson probably can't fly a 747 but he employs people who can
An Army General probably can't build a floating bridge for tanks but who has people in his "team" who can.

If you know the skill set of your team and listen to their ideas then you are sorted. You can train someone to be an engineer, you can't really train them to win hearts and minds.

rog007

5,761 posts

225 months

Monday 21st February 2011
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True leadership is letting others think they came up with the idea!

98elise

26,672 posts

162 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2011
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Tom is the natural leader, but Fred will be the better choice.

Give Fred the authority to dictate when he knows best, and the job will get done properly. People may not agree with him but the results will speak for themselves.

If Tom is given the authority the sheep will follow, and Fred will probably stop contributing. Tom will fk up regularly.

V8mate

45,899 posts

190 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2011
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98elise said:
Tom is the natural leader, but Fred will be the better choice.
You're assuming that Fred is always right and Tom is always wrong though.

Stevenj214

4,941 posts

229 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2011
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V8mate said:
98elise said:
Tom is the natural leader, but Fred will be the better choice.
You're assuming that Fred is always right and Tom is always wrong though.
We were asked to assume so:

Dr Jekyll said:
So assume it's a general trend rather than just one situation.

V8mate

45,899 posts

190 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2011
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Stevenj214 said:
V8mate said:
98elise said:
Tom is the natural leader, but Fred will be the better choice.
You're assuming that Fred is always right and Tom is always wrong though.
We were asked to assume so:

Dr Jekyll said:
So assume it's a general trend rather than just one situation.
Missed that.

Was going to add that it's a ridiculous assumption but then I realised that I'm always right and my bosses are always wrong biggrin

H6CJF

666 posts

192 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2011
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Get someone in to give them some coaching whistle

rog007

5,761 posts

225 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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H6CJF said:
Get someone in to give them some coaching whistle
...in subtlety

Nick M

3,624 posts

224 months

Thursday 24th February 2011
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Group dynamics are interesting, and quite often a 'leader' will emerge based simply on who talks the most, and most loudly. If you have a mix of extroverts and introverts, the introverts can end up being overwhelmed. Others in the group will simply make a judgement call on who they perceive to be the leader and will tend towards following them, at least initially.

You could maybe try something along the following lines:

- in a group discussion, give everyone in the meeting an opportunity to be heard. Go round the room one by one and give them the space to say their piece.
- Nobody else is allowed to comment or ask questions while they're talking
- and when that person is done, ask them if that's it or if they have anything else to add. Let them think - don't rush straight to the next person - because quite often you'll get the "and another thing...." follow up from them
- once everyone has had their say, *then* people can ask particular questions they might have, or make comments.
- every now and then, stop and go through the same process to make sure everyone is happy with where the discussions have ended up - you could even ask them that specific question as you go round the room one by one again.

First time I encountered this approach I was sceptical, but it does work. One big proviso is that people must feel as though they can say what they mean, without fear of consequences, and that there is someone in the room to step in if people interupt and ask questions.

You should find that the outcome of discussions like this is rather different and that the people who emerge as leaders may not always be the 'Toms' of this world.