In a 6 month period how many sick days are "acceptable"
Discussion
Many organisations have a policy of x number of instances over a period, and/or more than a certain number of days.
With my previous employer, more than 4 instances or 10 days total over an 18 month period would trigger an interview to discuss the situation. The interview was ostensibly to ensure there were no deeper problems that the employer either needed to know or could even have assisted with.
With my previous employer, more than 4 instances or 10 days total over an 18 month period would trigger an interview to discuss the situation. The interview was ostensibly to ensure there were no deeper problems that the employer either needed to know or could even have assisted with.
MadMullah said:
so in a 6 month cycle how many sicks are acceptable before an employee is dragged up about it? is there a minimum amount by law?
AFAIK there isn't a "minimum amount by law". if disciplinary action was taken it would need to be proprotionate/reasonable. For example Person A breaks his leg and is absent for 8 weeks
Person B is off sick with colds/flu/ebola every other Monday (no Doctors note)
The above cases should be dealt with differently.Its not the amount of sick leave as such, more the frequency and reason for absence. A decent employer will have clearly written policies and possible sanctions.
LC23 said:
Haighermeister said:
My company's policy is 3 in 12 months gets you on a disciplinary....
Surely they are on dodgy ground with that? They can't just start handing out disciplinaries when people are off sick as it would be so difficult to prove if they were genuine or not?Tyre Smoke said:
I think he might mean that they are called in to explain themselves. I doubt any company would get away with a disciplinary simply on number of sickness days/periods of sickness without exhausting the investigative procedure first to establish whether it was genuine or malingering.
A crap company would give a disiplinaryA good company would call in Doctor / Occupational Health person to assess and give an opinion
When I was an SHO in a hospital, it was 2 absences and an interview with the consultant and a note on my file.
I think HR were smoking some of this (Bradford Factor).
I think HR were smoking some of this (Bradford Factor).
Tyre Smoke said:
I think he might mean that they are called in to explain themselves. I doubt any company would get away with a disciplinary simply on number of sickness days/periods of sickness without exhausting the investigative procedure first to establish whether it was genuine or malingering.
Sickness 1 and 2 gets a return to work interviewSickness 3 is an 'absence review meeting'
That investigation is then passed to HR if it is just sickness with no underlying reasons/afflictions then a verbal warning is given.
If sick once more in 6 monts, its a written warning, then final for another sickness.
So if you get 5+ with no specific reasons in 12 months, you can get fired...
I don't agree with it, but I do enforce it..
Roberty said:
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Why the hell should there be a difference?Carrot said:
Lots of companies are now not paying for any sick days at all - apparently in a lot of workplaces, absences (especially long weekend ones) have been cut down to nothing as a result...
there were probably very few absences in the Victorian millswell, unless they died, I suppose
Carrot said:
Roberty said:
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Why the hell should there be a difference?Hugo a Gogo said:
Carrot said:
Lots of companies are now not paying for any sick days at all - apparently in a lot of workplaces, absences (especially long weekend ones) have been cut down to nothing as a result...
there were probably very few absences in the Victorian millswell, unless they died, I suppose
Carrot said:
Lots of companies are now not paying for any sick days at all - apparently in a lot of workplaces, absences (especially long weekend ones) have been cut down to nothing as a result...
And it works. My company pays for 5 days per year and anything after that is SSP. I have found that absence is minimal and only the geniuinely ill take sick leave.Carrot said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
Carrot said:
Lots of companies are now not paying for any sick days at all - apparently in a lot of workplaces, absences (especially long weekend ones) have been cut down to nothing as a result...
there were probably very few absences in the Victorian millswell, unless they died, I suppose
they were poor but 'appy
until they died of industrial injury at 6
Edited by Hugo a Gogo on Wednesday 30th March 08:48
Hugo a Gogo said:
Carrot said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
Carrot said:
Lots of companies are now not paying for any sick days at all - apparently in a lot of workplaces, absences (especially long weekend ones) have been cut down to nothing as a result...
there were probably very few absences in the Victorian millswell, unless they died, I suppose
they were poor but 'appy
until they died of industrial injury at 6
Edited by Hugo a Gogo on Wednesday 30th March 08:48
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