Discounts on new M3/M4?

Discounts on new M3/M4?

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interstellar

3,306 posts

146 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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interstellar said:
squirdan said:
on M3 cutters they are pointing out a pre-reg comp pack car has dipped below £50k for the first time

its a white M4 I think, jan 18 reg, so thats something like £67k new now being adv at £49950 Cotswold Hereford
not quite pre reg but they have two and willl sell them after the end of the month with minimum 1500 miles on them. still a cracking deal but wont be new.
I enquired on these but they won't do the 3.9% finance that’s available for new cars ,demos etc but will only do 10.9%. No surprise really.


Edited by interstellar on Tuesday 6th February 22:56

AHUX

71 posts

154 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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interstellar said:
I enquired on these but they do the 3.9% finance that’s available for new cars , demos etc but will only 10.9%. No surprise really.
You can certainly get lower than 10.9% on used cars. I recently bought an used X5 that started at 10.9% but got it down much lower than that in the end, and I am not very good at haggling!

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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AHUX said:
You can certainly get lower than 10.9% on used cars. I recently bought an used X5 that started at 10.9% but got it down much lower than that in the end, and I am not very good at haggling!
To give others a guide what did you end up securing on a used?

Colinv6

100 posts

93 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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AHUX said:
You can certainly get lower than 10.9% on used cars. I recently bought an used X5 that started at 10.9% but got it down much lower than that in the end, and I am not very good at haggling!
Can usually push for 6.5 - 7.1 on a used car depending on how hard you want to push them...

However, just yesterday Sytner flat out told me they as a group cannot go lower than 9.8 apr and this was on an x5M that surely they want to move!!

interstellar

3,306 posts

146 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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Colinv6 said:
AHUX said:
You can certainly get lower than 10.9% on used cars. I recently bought an used X5 that started at 10.9% but got it down much lower than that in the end, and I am not very good at haggling!
Can usually push for 6.5 - 7.1 on a used car depending on how hard you want to push them...

However, just yesterday Sytner flat out told me they as a group cannot go lower than 9.8 apr and this was on an x5M that surely they want to move!!
5 mins ago Sytner offered me 8.9% on a M4. I said no thanks. Lombard are at 5.4% but its business customers only.

MellowshipSlinky

14,698 posts

189 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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Try Oracle - should be about 6%

RS Grant

1,427 posts

233 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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Mann Island are also worth a look too, <6% is achievable with them.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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Christ Sainsbury’s offer £25k personal loan for 3.8% so the numbers flagged above are mind boggling my high

AHUX

71 posts

154 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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Welshbeef said:
To give others a guide what did you end up securing on a used?
7.5%APR which I think is ok for car finance on an used car.

I had the same issue as others with Sytner, the best they offered was 8.9%

MellowshipSlinky

14,698 posts

189 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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Welshbeef said:
Christ Sainsbury’s offer £25k personal loan for 3.8% so the numbers flagged above are mind boggling my high
How much M3/4 are you going to get for £25k? wobble

And don’t forget, all the other finance cos listed above will also do PCP if that’s your bag.

Wills2

22,832 posts

175 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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Welshbeef said:
Christ Sainsbury’s offer £25k personal loan for 3.8% so the numbers flagged above are mind boggling my high
Which is fine if you have the other 25k in cash but a bit of bugger if you don't when looking at a 50k car.



Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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Wills2 said:
Welshbeef said:
Christ Sainsbury’s offer £25k personal loan for 3.8% so the numbers flagged above are mind boggling my high
Which is fine if you have the other 25k in cash but a bit of bugger if you don't when looking at a 50k car.

I’d wager someone in he market for a brand new or newly second Hand M3/4 doesn’t run around in cheap old cars as such they have their existing part x +£25k personal loan + anyone buying such a vehicle who doesn’t have £5-10k in ready cash it’s clearly beyond their financial position/sure way to financial hardship.

squirdan

1,083 posts

147 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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A pcp arranged through Oracle or Premier will be 6-7pc. Mine was 6.9pc and the lender is Alphera which is simply a trading name of BMW finance.

They can even run a private sale car through their interlinked dealers

Zopa is another good option if you have a good rating and just want a cheap loan

Some of these bmw approved dealers are hopeless. I can only assume they think all customers are idiots which to be fair some are.

If the car is less than 3 years old ie still warrantied, which can be extended, there is simply no point buying from a main dealer unless the deal or specific car is EXACTLY what you want.

Wills2

22,832 posts

175 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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Welshbeef said:
Wills2 said:
Welshbeef said:
Christ Sainsbury’s offer £25k personal loan for 3.8% so the numbers flagged above are mind boggling my high
Which is fine if you have the other 25k in cash but a bit of bugger if you don't when looking at a 50k car.

I’d wager someone in he market for a brand new or newly second Hand M3/4 doesn’t run around in cheap old cars as such they have their existing part x +£25k personal loan + anyone buying such a vehicle who doesn’t have £5-10k in ready cash it’s clearly beyond their financial position/sure way to financial hardship.
Most people will be jumping out/ending a another lease/pcp and have 5k that they are willing to put in and take monthly payment.

I'd keep your wager if I were you.....



Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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Wills2 said:
Most people will be jumping out/ending a another lease/pcp and have 5k that they are willing to put in and take monthly payment.

I'd keep your wager if I were you.....

Point well made

CSLchappie

436 posts

204 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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Welshbeef said:
Christ Sainsbury’s offer £25k personal loan for 3.8% so the numbers flagged above are mind boggling my high
Anything above 25k attracts a much higher rate. I've mentioned this before but Lloyds customers should really look into using their car finance product, I keep looking at RS6's and have an offer of finance on a 1 year old vehicle @5.2% (APR) that's over 4 years with a balloon at the end (not a GFV though)

The only reason to take dealer finance is if they are offering a manufacturer backed contribution to do so - then pay it all back within 14 days and switch to something far cheaper.

MellowshipSlinky

14,698 posts

189 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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squirdan said:
A pcp arranged through Oracle or Premier will be 6-7pc. Mine was 6.9pc and the lender is Alphera which is simply a trading name of BMW finance.

They can even run a private sale car through their interlinked dealers

Zopa is another good option if you have a good rating and just want a cheap loan

Some of these bmw approved dealers are hopeless. I can only assume they think all customers are idiots which to be fair some are.

If the car is less than 3 years old ie still warrantied, which can be extended, there is simply no point buying from a main dealer unless the deal or specific car is EXACTLY what you want.
I’ve used Alphera for my last three cars - paying 5.9 on the current one.
Somehow along the way I acquired a contact in internal sales - same guy every time, and the rates seem slightly better.

squirdan

1,083 posts

147 months

Thursday 8th February 2018
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Nice one

I do think having a guaranteed level of depreciation is worth something over a standard balloon...

Too much £ chat recently. Let’s get back to the reason we like these ! Picking this up next week.






interstellar

3,306 posts

146 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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Lovely car and great colour combo. I am also now sorted. The choice of cars with a sunroof was dire and I would have compromised so much I have decided on one with a carbon roof and go the Sea sucker route for the bike so I pick this up next week.

It is exactly my chosen spec plus about 5 other things extra which is a right result. only 10k on clock too.







Edited by interstellar on Friday 9th February 15:12

PorkInsider

5,889 posts

141 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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Very nice Squirdan - CCBs too!

Great colour choice, Interstellar - assume it’s Tanzanite like mine? Nice to see the full leather too.