E39 M5 "values"
Discussion
I was in a similar situation last year and decided to sell mine . If you can keep it without being too anal with regards to bits and bobs then that's ok . I kept finding items I wanted to sort and as they get older that will only get worse .
Regarding not losing money , probably true but keeping it in top condition will eat any gains .
Regarding not losing money , probably true but keeping it in top condition will eat any gains .
ds666 said:
I was in a similar situation last year and decided to sell mine . If you can keep it without being too anal with regards to bits and bobs then that's ok . I kept finding items I wanted to sort and as they get older that will only get worse .
Regarding not losing money , probably true but keeping it in top condition will eat any gains .
This is why I am looking to get out of mine in May. Not the only reason but one of them. Gains are eaten by routine maintenance. Looking to get into something cheaper for 12 months before going F10 M5.Regarding not losing money , probably true but keeping it in top condition will eat any gains .
PH XKR said:
Looked at replacing the xkr with an f10 as it would be nice to have it next to the e39 but the f10 did nothing for me. Fast, yes but bland.
I intend to drive one before making my ultimate decision. The alternative would be to take the miltek off my E39 and put a standard system back on so that I do not suffer with the ringing.I guess I really want to get back into a turbo car. I'm even considering an S60 T5 or Vectra VXR for a year while saving up for the F10, just because they're turbo charged!
I have kept an eye on the E39 M5 market for some time as I fancy one (currently have a low mile 2003 e39 530d Sport that I put very few miles on). Things seem to have stagnated for 3+ months. No 2003 cars on Autotrader for ages, 9 out of 10 for sale must have been for sale not long after Christmas (and thus I presume they're not quite right). Weird.
Hayek said:
I have kept an eye on the E39 M5 market for some time as I fancy one (currently have a low mile 2003 e39 530d Sport that I put very few miles on). Things seem to have stagnated for 3+ months. No 2003 cars on Autotrader for ages, 9 out of 10 for sale must have been for sale not long after Christmas (and thus I presume they're not quite right). Weird.
People aren't selling them I guess. There's a few supercharged ones for sale currently but not 2003 cars.
I am wondering what the value of supercharged M5's is going to be, whether they will also rise or not due to the modifications.
TheAngryDog said:
People aren't selling them I guess.
There's a few supercharged ones for sale currently but not 2003 cars.
I am wondering what the value of supercharged M5's is going to be, whether they will also rise or not due to the modifications.
Supercharged E39 M5 ..... wowzers. They sound bloody lovely standard and are fairly fast out of he box but supercharged that's probably F10 M5 fast with a stick shifter. There's a few supercharged ones for sale currently but not 2003 cars.
I am wondering what the value of supercharged M5's is going to be, whether they will also rise or not due to the modifications.
Welshbeef said:
TheAngryDog said:
People aren't selling them I guess.
There's a few supercharged ones for sale currently but not 2003 cars.
I am wondering what the value of supercharged M5's is going to be, whether they will also rise or not due to the modifications.
Supercharged E39 M5 ..... wowzers. They sound bloody lovely standard and are fairly fast out of he box but supercharged that's probably F10 M5 fast with a stick shifter. There's a few supercharged ones for sale currently but not 2003 cars.
I am wondering what the value of supercharged M5's is going to be, whether they will also rise or not due to the modifications.
Patrick Bateman said:
You're lucky you're not banned for this Welshbeef.
Repeat after me, manual gearbox.
Repeat after me, manual gearbox.
03 plate E39 M5's are pretty rare.
Given that only 16 RHD cars were built from March 2003 on, and only 31 from January on. Some of those were not for the UK market, that's just 11 and 21 respectively in the UK (and I know for a fact that at least one of those has been scrapped).
There are also one or two late 2002 cars on an 03 plate, but probably some early 2003 cars on a 52 plate. Probably originally between 15 and 20 cars.
Given that only 16 RHD cars were built from March 2003 on, and only 31 from January on. Some of those were not for the UK market, that's just 11 and 21 respectively in the UK (and I know for a fact that at least one of those has been scrapped).
There are also one or two late 2002 cars on an 03 plate, but probably some early 2003 cars on a 52 plate. Probably originally between 15 and 20 cars.
Welshbeef said:
Supercharged E39 M5 ..... wowzers. They sound bloody lovely standard and are fairly fast out of he box but supercharged that's probably F10 M5 fast with a stick shifter.
They are nice indeed ! I have done about 60,000 miles since I supercharged my one. I drove it NA for about 25,000 Miles.Its earned a well deserved engine rebuild now, at about 175,000 miles.
Unfortunately I haven't been able to drive my one back to back with my M6 Gran Coupe though, but gut feeling is the M6 is quicker (but I am running a fair bit more Hp/Lb.Ft than a stock car) and the gap would keep increasing the further you went past 140/150 mph. The DCT gearbox is just ridiculously quick and I also tend not to shift too fast in the E39 M5, purely for some mechanical sympathy...So that would be the main reason the M6 will start pulling away as the speed starts piling on.
However when I do finally get the E39 M5's engine rebuilt it will be packing some serious PUNCH.
Oh and RichardM5's 2002 E39 M5 is probably going to be nicer than ANY 2003 E39 M5
Edited by M5 London on Tuesday 13th June 14:51
M5 London said:
They are nice indeed ! I have done about 60,000 miles since I supercharged my one. I drove it NA for about 25,000 Miles.
Its earned a well deserved engine rebuild now, at about 175,000 miles.
Unfortunately I haven't been able to drive my one back to back with my M6 Gran Coupe though, but gut feeling is the M6 is quicker (but I am running a fair bit more Hp/Lb.Ft than a stock car) and the gap would keep increasing the further you went past 140/150 mph. The DCT gearbox is just ridiculously quick and I also tend not to shift too fast in the E39 M5, purely for some mechanical sympathy...So that would be the main reason the M6 will start pulling away as the speed starts piling on.
However when I do finally get the E39 M5's engine rebuilt it will be packing some serious PUNCH.
Oh and RichardM5's 2002 E39 M5 is probably going to be nicer than ANY 2003 E39 M5
Are you going forged? Its earned a well deserved engine rebuild now, at about 175,000 miles.
Unfortunately I haven't been able to drive my one back to back with my M6 Gran Coupe though, but gut feeling is the M6 is quicker (but I am running a fair bit more Hp/Lb.Ft than a stock car) and the gap would keep increasing the further you went past 140/150 mph. The DCT gearbox is just ridiculously quick and I also tend not to shift too fast in the E39 M5, purely for some mechanical sympathy...So that would be the main reason the M6 will start pulling away as the speed starts piling on.
However when I do finally get the E39 M5's engine rebuilt it will be packing some serious PUNCH.
Oh and RichardM5's 2002 E39 M5 is probably going to be nicer than ANY 2003 E39 M5
Edited by M5 London on Tuesday 13th June 14:51
Haven't really given it much thought since retiring it in October 2014.
It will most likely be forged internals, but whether to go for sleeving the block or not is my question.
Also been in communication with VAC Motorsports in the USA about just buying a complete engine, turnkey style, but as of yet my lottery numbers haven't matched up with the winning ones
I'll get round to it soon. In the meantime I am fine with my M6 GC as a daily beater and my newly acquired E30 M3 (it really is so much better than I ever expected, I always wanted one, but was concerned it was just overhyped.....but its the real deal !) for some fun and general worshipping
It will most likely be forged internals, but whether to go for sleeving the block or not is my question.
Also been in communication with VAC Motorsports in the USA about just buying a complete engine, turnkey style, but as of yet my lottery numbers haven't matched up with the winning ones
I'll get round to it soon. In the meantime I am fine with my M6 GC as a daily beater and my newly acquired E30 M3 (it really is so much better than I ever expected, I always wanted one, but was concerned it was just overhyped.....but its the real deal !) for some fun and general worshipping
M5 London said:
Haven't really given it much thought since retiring it in October 2014.
It will most likely be forged internals, but whether to go for sleeving the block or not is my question.
Also been in communication with VAC Motorsports in the USA about just buying a complete engine, turnkey style, but as of yet my lottery numbers haven't matched up with the winning ones
I'll get round to it soon. In the meantime I am fine with my M6 GC as a daily beater and my newly acquired E30 M3 (it really is so much better than I ever expected, I always wanted one, but was concerned it was just overhyped.....but its the real deal !) for some fun and general worshipping
Nice It will most likely be forged internals, but whether to go for sleeving the block or not is my question.
Also been in communication with VAC Motorsports in the USA about just buying a complete engine, turnkey style, but as of yet my lottery numbers haven't matched up with the winning ones
I'll get round to it soon. In the meantime I am fine with my M6 GC as a daily beater and my newly acquired E30 M3 (it really is so much better than I ever expected, I always wanted one, but was concerned it was just overhyped.....but its the real deal !) for some fun and general worshipping
There are a few European options for sleeving the block. It's worth checking out the post on M5Board as there is one being built with sleeves.I'd like to try and E30 M3, just to see, though I have never driven any kind of M3. In fact only ever driven two BMW's and they were both E39 M5's
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RichardM5 said:
03 plate E39 M5's are pretty rare.
Given that only 16 RHD cars were built from March 2003 on, and only 31 from January on. Some of those were not for the UK market, that's just 11 and 21 respectively in the UK (and I know for a fact that at least one of those has been scrapped).
There are also one or two late 2002 cars on an 03 plate, but probably some early 2003 cars on a 52 plate. Probably originally between 15 and 20 cars.
mine is late-ish (Oct) 2002 build, early 2003 registered 52 plate not sure how that fits in...Given that only 16 RHD cars were built from March 2003 on, and only 31 from January on. Some of those were not for the UK market, that's just 11 and 21 respectively in the UK (and I know for a fact that at least one of those has been scrapped).
There are also one or two late 2002 cars on an 03 plate, but probably some early 2003 cars on a 52 plate. Probably originally between 15 and 20 cars.
akirk said:
mine is late-ish (Oct) 2002 build, early 2003 registered 52 plate not sure how that fits in...
That's not an 03 plate car then, but it is a 2003 model year, so will have a Mk IV Nav (if it has Nav) and could have had Bluetooth phone from new.Mine was built at a similar time, but not registered until March 2003, so it is an 03 plate, it is also a 2003 MY.
I'm probably looking at putting mine up for sale some time this year. As there is now a couple of bits on the wheel arches that have started to bubble, what are your thoughts on whether it's worth getting these issues sorted before putting it up?
I feel the market for these models would be bigger if the bodywork is perfect rather than having slight blemishes which I know would put me off buying if there were other options.
As the prices have now stopped dropping and look to have risen slightly it feels like a reasonable investment to keep it as clean and original as possible.
Thoughts? When you're ready to sell, do you just get rid of it as is, or spend a little time to make sure it's as good as possible?
I feel the market for these models would be bigger if the bodywork is perfect rather than having slight blemishes which I know would put me off buying if there were other options.
As the prices have now stopped dropping and look to have risen slightly it feels like a reasonable investment to keep it as clean and original as possible.
Thoughts? When you're ready to sell, do you just get rid of it as is, or spend a little time to make sure it's as good as possible?
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