E92 M3 prices

[Smuler]

tenmantaylor said:

The dealer says he took it to Sytner High Wycombe for a diagnostic, not for any work. It would seem strange for the current dealer to have had it since early June till now without 'owning it' or having it for sale till very recently. But the previous owner was in Wales so would make no sense to bring it to High Wycombe. Dealer isn't very responsive to questions about this.

As far as I know these traders don't have to own it in the sense they're registered keepers that's why the BVCars guy isn't an owner, but as per the pictures I found, clearly had some use out of it. Seems he had it from July to December 2016 although I think his mate , on an adjacent lot, had it for sale too.

Based on the basic car check I ran, the Welsh owner was still the current owner as it showed the ownership period as 9 months, i.e. December until date of check. That's weird, as he should've sent off the paperwork to DVLA. I had assumed he did that in May as it showed tax expired 5 May 2017.

I assume you have the last owners details, you could try and find out more?

[bennyboysvuk]

tenmantaylor said:

Thanks re: the clunking. Thought someone had hit the car pulling out of the petrol station. I'm like a paranoid racing driver leading on the last lap listening out for signs of failure. Getting in independant inspection on Tuesday with a local M3 enthusiast/garage and paying to have an official BMW health check next week. All clear from those and I'll be happy(er).

You're welcome. Glad to see a thorough explanation for it in your latter post. Thanks for posting that. I knew it was going to be something like that, but had never looked into it and accepted it as the M-clunk.

I think it's good to be listening carefully to the car when you first get it, so that you do learn all of the noises that it should or shouldn't make. My car has the individual audio system (I've not heard a stereo so loud in a car since my Max Power days in the '90s), but I've barely used it. Instead, preferring to listen to every mechanical noise, with the sonorous V8 taking the lead.

[tenmantaylor]

There was another one on sale that had the individual that I didn't get to see as the trader crashed it before I came to view(!). Mine has the upgraded sound with the additional tweeters in the wing mirrors and in the back, it makes a huge difference over the (poor) standard in my previous e92.

And yes, the engine sound doesn't get any better than this. It's completely intoxicating. Was reading up on the engine technology used last night, similar tech to used in the mid 00s BMW f1 cars such as silicon alloy alu to get rid of heavy liners. Amazing gem of an engine never to be seen or heard again in a production car. I'm at pains to decide how hard to keep the miles off, it's bound to shoot up in value in couple years if can keep the miles off.

[ArsE92]

ArsE92 said:

rich12 said:

Tenner says it's the throttle body actuators.

ABS sensor apparently. They are going to change it tomorrow then bring the car back to me.

We'll see!

All sorted and I'm back in love!

[Front bottom]

I'm going to look at this on Friday. I'm not keen on the interior, but it has some tasty options.

http://www.sytner.co.uk/car-search/7710974-bmw-m3/

[Smuler]

Front bottom said:

I'm going to look at this on Friday. I'm not keen on the interior, but it has some tasty options.

http://www.sytner.co.uk/car-search/7710974-bmw-m3/

Very tasty spec, seems last owner was asking 17,950£ privately so I presume this was a recent part ex. with typical dealer mark up.

[ArsE92]

Front bottom said:

I'm going to look at this on Friday. I'm not keen on the interior, but it has some tasty options.

http://www.sytner.co.uk/car-search/7710974-bmw-m3/

I couldn't live with that interior, but the spec is great. Individual Audio

You can change the 'wooden' trim quite easily, but the seats etc not so easily.

[Front bottom]

ArsE92 said:

Front bottom said:

I'm going to look at this on Friday. I'm not keen on the interior, but it has some tasty options.

http://www.sytner.co.uk/car-search/7710974-bmw-m3/

I couldn't live with that interior, but the spec is great. Individual Audio

You can change the 'wooden' trim quite easily, but the seats etc not so easily.

Cheers for the info.

I've already reserved it, subject to viewing and a test drive.

[ArsE92]

Front bottom said:

ArsE92 said:

Front bottom said:

I'm going to look at this on Friday. I'm not keen on the interior, but it has some tasty options.

http://www.sytner.co.uk/car-search/7710974-bmw-m3/

I couldn't live with that interior, but the spec is great. Individual Audio

You can change the 'wooden' trim quite easily, but the seats etc not so easily.

Cheers for the info.

I've already reserved it, subject to viewing and a test drive.

Wow - nice work! Looks like it's gone off the website already.

LCI tail-lights can be purchased for around £350 (with a cabling adaptor) and really modernise the back-end. Get yourself Carly and a cable too so you can faff around with coding. I've got the app but left the cable in my 335i when I sold it

[Front bottom]

ArsE92 said:

Wow - nice work! Looks like it's gone off the website already.

LCI tail-lights can be purchased for around £350 (with a cabling adaptor) and really modernise the back-end. Get yourself Carly and a cable too so you can faff around with coding. I've got the app but left the cable in my 335i when I sold it

This Carly thing is a new one on me I'm afraid. You can link your phone to the obc port then?

Sorry, tech is leaving me behind a bit, despite my best attempts to keep up!

[aR53GP]

Front bottom said:

ArsE92 said:

Wow - nice work! Looks like it's gone off the website already.

LCI tail-lights can be purchased for around £350 (with a cabling adaptor) and really modernise the back-end. Get yourself Carly and a cable too so you can faff around with coding. I've got the app but left the cable in my 335i when I sold it

This Carly thing is a new one on me I'm afraid. You can link your phone to the obc port then?

Sorry, tech is leaving me behind a bit, despite my best attempts to keep up!

Yeah - traditionally you'd have to use a laptop and a cable to the OBD port with ancient software that is generally quite complex.

With Carly, you can use an app and a cable and it's much simpler.

You can then enable critical items like making your mirrors fold in when you lock the car

[Front bottom]

I like the sound of the option to permanently open the exhaust valves up via Carly.

[tenmantaylor]

Why need a cable for Carly? I use mine via Bluetooth on Android app. Works a treat.

Havn't played with Carly on the M3 yet although when I first tested the car I bought I did do the used car test and fault check. The average speed of the car over it's entire life had been just 33kph. This can be interpreted in a good or bad way but at least it would suggest it's had an easier life. Will have a Carly play tomorrow and see what bells and whistles I can play with on the M3. How did the last owners live without having the windows automatically and mirrors automatically close when remote locking? It's also good feedback as you can hear the car locking itself without looking.

I've set up the old iDrive nicely to my phone by bluetooth, the handsfree audio quality is good but the voice activation is crap so I might just stick with my third party bluetooth aux solution (Aukey) which is even better now this car has a center console USB slot to charge; this means even when I turn the engine off the adapter stays powered so can continue calls or carry on listening to streamed bluetooth music with engine off. the old cigarette lighter adapter needs the engine on. The benefits of running low power devices from a low power socket!

Really not regretting the fact I didn't hold out for one with the newer iDrive (when first started looking I considered it a must have) but even it (on all the 09 and 10 models I looked at) couldn't stream music over bluetooth from my phone! Moral? Get an e92 M3 based primarily on the engine, condition, the miles, the price and forget about how outdated the in car UI is as compared to a phone or a tablet they are all out of date. Which year did M3s starting having this function?

I'm considering making a mount for an android phablet that neatly wedges itself in the void in front of the iDrive screen and have it sync to my phone by tethering so can leave it in the car but not need it's on sim/contract. If it's unbranded and neatly mounted people won'd be able to tell it's not integrated and shouldn't be tempted to break in for it. There are a couple of screws in the roof of the void I think I could design a really neat mount integration from by lengthening the screws used without causing any damaged to the plastics.

[ArsE92]

Front bottom said:

I like the sound of the option to permanently open the exhaust valves up via Carly.

I don't think you can on the M3? You can on the 335i.

tenmantaylor said:

Why need a cable for Carly? I use mine via Bluetooth on Android app. Works a treat.

Cheaper and more reliable.

tenmantaylor said:

Really not regretting the fact I didn't hold out for one with the newer iDrive (when first started looking I considered it a must have) but even it (on all the 09 and 10 models I looked at) couldn't stream music over bluetooth from my phone! Moral? Get an e92 M3 based primarily on the engine, condition, the miles, the price and forget about how outdated the in car UI is as compared to a phone or a tablet they are all out of date. Which year did M3s starting having this function?

CIC (later hard-disk model) can be retro-fitted pretty easily

[tenmantaylor]

I tried a few 09/10 models all with newer iDrive and they couldn't stream music from the phone. Was this user error or was it an optional extra on the newer model that the cars I looked at didn't have?

If it could be done without affecting warranty and wasnt much more than £500 I'd be interested. I suspect it will be £1k+ and void warranty?

And contrary to what everyone says, the CIC might be easier to use and have better screen res and functions etc but the turned bit of aluminium is much classier as a piece in the car. Especially when your phone will always be better and can always be updated.

Edited by tenmantaylor on Thursday 14th September 19:08

[ArsE92]

tenmantaylor said:

I tried a few 09/10 models all with newer iDrive and they couldn't stream music from the phone. Was this user error or was it an optional extra on the newer model that the cars I looked at didn't have?

If it could be done without affecting warranty and wasnt much more than £500 I'd be interested. I suspect it will be £1k+ and void warranty?

And contrary to what everyone says, the CIC might be easier to use and have better screen res and functions etc but the turned bit of aluminium is much classier as a piece in the car. Especially when your phone will always be better and can always be updated.

Yeah, Bluetooth audio streaming was an option but most cars have it.

I paid £1300 to upgrade my 335i from CCC to CIC. Expensive, but I had the car for a long time so it was worth it to me.

[tenmantaylor]

Parts and labour? Have a contact? Wouldn't spend it now but might keep it in mind.

[tenmantaylor]

tenmantaylor said:

So having read through this: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=...

It does sound like a feature of the dual mass flywheel. As long as it is working as intended I have no problem with it at all.

BUT the plot thickens. I've just found out from BMW direct (not dealer) that the car's history is thus:

· 06/06/2017 BMW Sytner High Wycombe
· 22/10/2015 BMW Sytner Cardiff
· 21/03/2013 BMW Sytner Cardiff
· 18/04/2011 BMW Sytner Swansea
· 29/01/2010 BMW Sytner Cardiff
· 24/09/2009 BMW Sytner Cardiff

Which all ties in perfectly to all documentation. I called High Wycombe Sytner just now to find out exactly what work was carried out at this service. Turns out it wasn't a service, it was repair work to the gearbox. When I asked for more detail she said she couldn't tell me because of data protection. "But it's my car" I quipped to which she replied I'd need to speak to the service people who leave at 5.30, she's just bookings. It was 5.27pm.

Hopefully something failed and was replaced. The dealer hasn't said any work was done at High Wycombe, just a check but hasn't provided me any documentation. I smell a bit of smoke in the air.

So after getting some info from BMW UK and then insisting on being told what was done from the servicing team at High Wycombe they said it was a warranty claim where the owner at the time (still not sure if dealer or owner, assume dealer) requested to have the clutch inspected/replaced as it was slipping. BMW inspected it and confirmed no problems and I now have this in writing. I haven't noticed anything wrong with the clutch so I take this as an all clear. Still getting the private and BMW inspections next week to put another official receipt in the history for the sake of £30.

[Smuler]

Could you find out when the car ceased being under warranty , cos when I sold my 335i BMW allowed a grace period whereby if the new owner took out a warranty , in that period, they would void the rule of no claims in the first month as they'd treat the warranty as continuous. Might have made the rates a little cheaper too, not sure.
I had a monthly warranty.
I guess the warranty people would know best.
Strange tho, how there was a warranty on this car at that time ??

Good going , getting full inspection /s for 30£

[tenmantaylor]

I've asked but got no answers. BMW would make a sizeable amount more per year if most people took out new warranties I imagine...

I can't describe how happy I am with the car, it really is a pure joy to drive in all situations. Even at low speeds it's so well behaved. It can pull away in 2nd if need be, doesn't bog down, can go from 3rd to 6th under 40 no problem. It's like there's nothing wrong with it, something I find hard to come by. Trust me, I'm a fussy bugger. This excellence in performance and behaviour is clearly paid for with a lack of efficiency however. If they could partially electrify rather than turbo charge this engine to make it more efficient and boost the lower mid torque before it comes on song it would have everything youd ever need or want in an engine. Admit it F80 drivers, you miss the high end!