F10 M5 Review after 2 years
Discussion
Robbidoo said:
I know it's a performance car but it's also a 5 seater barge and I shouldn't have to left foot brake to park it, nor have to teach the Mrs how to!
No I think you misunderstood.I was wondering if you were actually left foot braking and hence it would probably be a bit trickier to judge when controlling the crawl, than with the usual right foot braking.
As stated by everyone on here and for myself, it seems quite easy to control the car during the crawl operation, so perhaps your car does have an issue ??
Edited by M5 London on Thursday 8th March 12:26
M5 London said:
No I think you misunderstood.
I was wondering if you were actually left foot braking and hence it would probably be a bit trickier to judge when controlling the crawl, than with the usual right foot braking.
As stated by everyone on here and for myself, it seems quite easy to control the car during the crawl operation, so perhaps your car does have an issue ??
Oh sorry. Yes I've tried that but find it too tricky as it's such a small margin between stopping and rolling when at that speed. I think maybe I need to try another and have the owner try mine.I was wondering if you were actually left foot braking and hence it would probably be a bit trickier to judge when controlling the crawl, than with the usual right foot braking.
As stated by everyone on here and for myself, it seems quite easy to control the car during the crawl operation, so perhaps your car does have an issue ??
@welshbeef, my Mrs drives all my cars and has been on a bunch of track days. Being sexist on international women's day is a bit of a shame mate.
Als911 said:
If you get the chance to own one, jump in with both feet no hesitation.
They are superb.......
I'd echo this. They are superb.......
There has been only one negative experience during my ownership which has come right at the end: trying to sell the car.
I always sell my cars privately, but never before have I experienced as many time wasters: arranging to come to see the car then not turning up, trying to lowball over the phone (20-25% lower than the advertised price), constantly asking about options which are not on the car (ie soft-close doors) despite the full spec clearly being listed in the advert - linked here.
Attempting to sell a 550bhp+ RWD saloon during snow storms is already trying enough, but these time wasting nutters
Andy M said:
I'd echo this.
There has been only one negative experience during my ownership which has come right at the end: trying to sell the car.
I always sell my cars privately, but never before have I experienced as many time wasters: arranging to come to see the car then not turning up, trying to lowball over the phone (20-25% lower than the advertised price), constantly asking about options which are not on the car (ie soft-close doors) despite the full spec clearly being listed in the advert - linked here.
Attempting to sell a 550bhp+ RWD saloon during snow storms is already trying enough, but these time wasting nutters
Very nice. There has been only one negative experience during my ownership which has come right at the end: trying to sell the car.
I always sell my cars privately, but never before have I experienced as many time wasters: arranging to come to see the car then not turning up, trying to lowball over the phone (20-25% lower than the advertised price), constantly asking about options which are not on the car (ie soft-close doors) despite the full spec clearly being listed in the advert - linked here.
Attempting to sell a 550bhp+ RWD saloon during snow storms is already trying enough, but these time wasting nutters
One question - have you ever sold a car second hand of similar value?
Andy M said:
Als911 said:
If you get the chance to own one, jump in with both feet no hesitation.
They are superb.......
I'd echo this. They are superb.......
There has been only one negative experience during my ownership which has come right at the end: trying to sell the car.
I always sell my cars privately, but never before have I experienced as many time wasters: arranging to come to see the car then not turning up, trying to lowball over the phone (20-25% lower than the advertised price), constantly asking about options which are not on the car (ie soft-close doors) despite the full spec clearly being listed in the advert - linked here.
Attempting to sell a 550bhp+ RWD saloon during snow storms is already trying enough, but these time wasting nutters
All fun and games.
Andy M said:
Welshbeef said:
Very nice.
One question - have you ever sold a car second hand of similar value?
Yes, quite a few.One question - have you ever sold a car second hand of similar value?
Do they pay you actual cash or is it a bank transfer
There is a risk selling/advertising high end Cars in private residences as clearly those of a certain type will see it as a potential car to steal. As in steal to order.
Thanks for the responses. There’s no finance on my car so I’m happy to wait for the right buyer.
My home has CCTV and we have a large dog, so I have no huge concerns about security etc.
Payment is usually made at a local bank.
HTH.
Welshbeef said:
Out of interest as these are all sold as seen sales do buyers bring approved mechanics/technicians to go over the cars fully?
Do they pay you actual cash or is it a bank transfer
There is a risk selling/advertising high end Cars in private residences as clearly those of a certain type will see it as a potential car to steal. As in steal to order.
I’ve never had anybody bring a mechanic or technician. A couple have brought friends (who drove them to see the car.)Do they pay you actual cash or is it a bank transfer
There is a risk selling/advertising high end Cars in private residences as clearly those of a certain type will see it as a potential car to steal. As in steal to order.
My home has CCTV and we have a large dog, so I have no huge concerns about security etc.
Payment is usually made at a local bank.
HTH.
Andy M said:
Thanks for the responses. There’s no finance on my car so I’m happy to wait for the right buyer.
My home has CCTV and we have a large dog, so I have no huge concerns about security etc.
Payment is usually made at a local bank.
HTH.
I only ask - as an individual buying from joe Public the risk is big. Sold as seen zero come back on say a £35k car v buying at trade full cover. Welshbeef said:
Out of interest as these are all sold as seen sales do buyers bring approved mechanics/technicians to go over the cars fully?
Do they pay you actual cash or is it a bank transfer
There is a risk selling/advertising high end Cars in private residences as clearly those of a certain type will see it as a potential car to steal. As in steal to order.
I’ve never had anybody bring a mechanic or technician. A couple have brought friends (who drove them to see the car.)Do they pay you actual cash or is it a bank transfer
There is a risk selling/advertising high end Cars in private residences as clearly those of a certain type will see it as a potential car to steal. As in steal to order.
My home has CCTV and we have a large dog, so I have no huge concerns about security etc.
Payment is usually made at a local bank.
HTH.
Welshbeef said:
I only ask - as an individual buying from joe Public the risk is big. Sold as seen zero come back on say a £35k car v buying at trade full cover.
‘Full cover’ meaning?Speaking only about my car, it is - and always has been - covered by BMW’s most comprehensive warranty and has only ever been serviced by BMW which I would offer a decent amount of peace of mind.
Additionally, with a relatively cheap piece of kit, a buyer can check the car for error codes etc.
Finally, if the buyer comes via Pistonheads they would see that the car has been owned by an enthusiast who has been a member of the forum for 15+ years (iirc) so is not likely to be a typical fly by night seller/dealer.
Andy M said:
Welshbeef said:
I only ask - as an individual buying from joe Public the risk is big. Sold as seen zero come back on say a £35k car v buying at trade full cover.
‘Full cover’ meaning?Speaking only about my car, it is - and always has been - covered by BMW’s most comprehensive warranty and has only ever been serviced by BMW which I would offer a decent amount of peace of mind.
Additionally, with a relatively cheap piece of kit, a buyer can check the car for error codes etc.
Finally, if the buyer comes via Pistonheads they would see that the car has been owned by an enthusiast who has been a member of the forum for 15+ years (iirc) so is not likely to be a typical fly by night seller/dealer.
Welshbeef said:
I’d say 0.5mile down the road after buying the car from you say the engine detonated by ours chance. In that situation there is no recourse against you but if it was a trade sale the legal situation is very different
How? Unless the dealer could be proven to have misrepresented the vehicle, I believe the situation would be very similar. I would presume the buyer would rely on a warranty with the dealer. My car is covered by a comprehensive manufacturer-backed warranty.
I think dealers like to present that they offer a bulletproof option, but on closer inspection their warranty’s offer little cover etc.
An authorised (manufacturer-backed) dealership would obviously be different, however you will pay for the privilege of using them. 10-15% more from what I can deduce.
Private v trade is very different. Any trade car basically has six months cover (hesitate to use the word warranty) because if something major goes wrong the onus is on the dealer to fix it. The law presumes the fault existed prior to sale IIRC unless dealer can prove otherwise.
Private sale has no recourse. None at all. Engine could fall out on the way home and it is entirely at buyers risk.
Private sale has no recourse. None at all. Engine could fall out on the way home and it is entirely at buyers risk.
bmwmike said:
Private v trade is very different. Any trade car basically has six months cover (hesitate to use the word warranty) because if something major goes wrong the onus is on the dealer to fix it. The law presumes the fault existed prior to sale IIRC unless dealer can prove otherwise.
Private sale has no recourse. None at all. Engine could fall out on the way home and it is entirely at buyers risk.
That’s my point - so £35 large buying private (even a PH memeber who is simply a user name when all is said and done) is a big call. This is why I’d say people call and low ball he price - they are adding in a risk promising/deducing a risk premium. Private sale has no recourse. None at all. Engine could fall out on the way home and it is entirely at buyers risk.
M5 London said:
If you are in Manual Mode in say 7th at 50 mph and you suddenly want maximum acceleration. Floor the throttle past the kickdown detent and simultaneously pull the gearshift DOWN paddle or gear shift lever forward and it will immediately put you into the lowest gear possible, for the road speed, to give you instant maximum acceleration. Saves you having to click the gearbox down 4 times repeatedly to say 3rd from 7th.
Just wanted to say thanks for this info. I did not realise it did this. Had a good look at an M5 today it’s kind of verified it’s the car I want.
Pic attached only downside is colour of the leather I love the white v black plus it’s a non powered rear boot plus no ski bag/through load system.
Otherwise brand new rubber discs pads and a really nice option list.
Pic attached only downside is colour of the leather I love the white v black plus it’s a non powered rear boot plus no ski bag/through load system.
Otherwise brand new rubber discs pads and a really nice option list.
Elysium said:
M5 London said:
If you are in Manual Mode in say 7th at 50 mph and you suddenly want maximum acceleration. Floor the throttle past the kickdown detent and simultaneously pull the gearshift DOWN paddle or gear shift lever forward and it will immediately put you into the lowest gear possible, for the road speed, to give you instant maximum acceleration. Saves you having to click the gearbox down 4 times repeatedly to say 3rd from 7th.
Just wanted to say thanks for this info. I did not realise it did this. bmwmike said:
What happens if you floor the throttle to the kickdown button but don't simultaneously pull the down paddle? Kickdown normally selects the lowest gear for maximum acceleration anyway so I'm curious why the need to move the paddle at the same time.
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