M2 CS

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p1stonhead

25,576 posts

168 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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tjlazer said:
£75,320 OTR. Not as bad as expected but a bit more than I'm likely to find down the sofa. A decent spec pre-reg Competition is 45k so that's quite some gap.
Personally couldn’t imagine going for this over a Cayman GT4 which I understand is nigh on an identical price.

tjlazer

875 posts

175 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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p1stonhead said:
tjlazer said:
£75,320 OTR. Not as bad as expected but a bit more than I'm likely to find down the sofa. A decent spec pre-reg Competition is 45k so that's quite some gap.
Personally couldn’t imagine going for this over a Cayman GT4 which I understand is nigh on an identical price.
This one can do the school run! Can't fit three kids in a Cayman? That's the only downside I can think of!!

hughcam

419 posts

166 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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I cant see a quicker way of saying bye to £25-£30k in depreciation than buying one of these and selling in a year.

The depreciation on the M4 CS is absolutely horrific due to it being a bit of a poor special edition and not a full fat CSL - I see this being no different.

It really needs full carbon buckets, rear seat delete, proper chassis lightening and proper suspension (like a Mini GP2 etc) to be a proper special edition.

The comp will be the better car and depreciation will reflect this IMO.



Edited by hughcam on Wednesday 6th November 16:30


Edited by hughcam on Wednesday 6th November 16:30

cowboyengineer

1,411 posts

115 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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Well apparently the Uk is only getting 50. So depreciation should t be too bad

MellowshipSlinky

14,703 posts

190 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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cowboyengineer said:
Well apparently the Uk is only getting 50. So depreciation should t be too bad
So like high end Porsche’s this will be speculator heaven and if you’re not nice to your local DP you ain’t getting one!

disad-vantage-d

815 posts

221 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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cowboyengineer said:
Well apparently the Uk is only getting 50. So depreciation should t be too bad
May I ask where is the source of this information?

The last I read was that BMW had not announced a specific production figure, never mind dealer allocations.

p1stonhead

25,576 posts

168 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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disad-vantage-d said:
cowboyengineer said:
Well apparently the Uk is only getting 50. So depreciation should t be too bad
May I ask where is the source of this information?

The last I read was that BMW had not announced a specific production figure, never mind dealer allocations.
I’m sure I read they were making 2200. 50 for us sounds low if that is the total.

cowboyengineer

1,411 posts

115 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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So I put down a deposit 2 years ago, the dealer rang me up and said they had been told an allocation of 50, and I needed to load my spec on to the system and Bmw would do the allocation.

I spoke to another dealer from whom I bought my comp from, who said the same thing regards loading your speck on to the system and sending it to BMW, but who said there were going to be 310 cars.

thatsprettyshady

1,828 posts

166 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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cowboyengineer said:
So I put down a deposit 2 years ago, the dealer rang me up and said they had been told an allocation of 50, and I needed to load my spec on to the system and Bmw would do the allocation.

I spoke to another dealer from whom I bought my comp from, who said the same thing regards loading your speck on to the system and sending it to BMW, but who said there were going to be 310 cars.
Keep us updated!

MellowshipSlinky

14,703 posts

190 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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cowboyengineer said:
So I put down a deposit 2 years ago, the dealer rang me up and said they had been told an allocation of 50, and I needed to load my spec on to the system and Bmw would do the allocation.

I spoke to another dealer from whom I bought my comp from, who said the same thing regards loading your speck on to the system and sending it to BMW, but who said there were going to be 310 cars.
So BMW are going to choose who the ‘lucky’ punters are that’ll get a car?
Stinks of Porsche shenanigans- one of the reasons I walked away from Porsche ownership.

Steve Rance

5,448 posts

232 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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Looking at the spec, I can’t help feel that BMW have missed yet another opportunity. The original M2 chassis was a fantastic starting point. It needs a Lille more damping refinement, a little less compliance in the rear bushing and a decent diet to be truly great. What it doesn’t need is more power, active dampers and ceramics

I still maintain that the smart money is buying a vanilla M2, putting on a set of proper dampers, a few hundred on some replacement rear bushes, some proper front callipers and some cup 2’s. You’d get a better car for half the money. If your are power obsessed then a little more in a remap


cowboyengineer

1,411 posts

115 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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Steve Rance said:
Looking at the spec, I can’t help feel that BMW have missed yet another opportunity. The original M2 chassis was a fantastic starting point. It needs a Lille more damping refinement, a little less compliance in the rear bushing and a decent diet to be truly great. What it doesn’t need is more power, active dampers and ceramics

I still maintain that the smart money is buying a vanilla M2, putting on a set of proper dampers, a few hundred on some replacement rear bushes, some proper front callipers and some cup 2’s. You’d get a better car for half the money. If your are power obsessed then a little more in a remap
The m2 comp has rose jointed suspension. You can get bmw to fit the ac schnitzer shocks at the dealer for £3.1k. And the same wheels and cup 2 tires on the Cs are avaliable for £3k. You can have an ac schnitzer power upgrade to 530hp as well from the bmw dealer for £5k as well.

Steve Rance

5,448 posts

232 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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I believe it’s only one or two rose joints. A few hundred quid. For me, The Original car is too heavy. The comp is even heavier. The power thing doesn’t add balance, just the same old BMW solution to solve all of its problems. We are all different but for me a original M2 has so much potential and BMW took the wrong route with it. Less could have been a whole lot more

VerySideways

10,240 posts

273 months

Thursday 7th November 2019
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Steve Rance said:
I believe it’s only one or two rose joints. A few hundred quid. For me, The Original car is too heavy. The comp is even heavier. The power thing doesn’t add balance, just the same old BMW solution to solve all of its problems. We are all different but for me a original M2 has so much potential and BMW took the wrong route with it. Less could have been a whole lot more
But a CS based on the original M2 would not have been possible now, the reason they changed from N55 to S55 was because of emissions homologation.
Fundamentally i agree with you though, the M2 was too heavy and the CS is even heavier (though not as heavy as the M2 Competition).

SWC

73 posts

209 months

Saturday 9th November 2019
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Has anybody ordered an M2 CS yet?

London GT3

1,025 posts

242 months

Saturday 9th November 2019
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I understand that the ordering process is as follows:
Customers to submit request via dealer who will submit to BMW between 6th Nov and 30th Nov
BMW UK will make allocations based on i) application date, ii) BMW ownership history iii) car ownership generally
BMW will make allocations known to dealers for specific customers by mid December
Customer will have three days to complete order
Build of cars commences week 10 in 2020 (mid March)

LotusJas

1,324 posts

232 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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SWC said:
Has anybody ordered an M2 CS yet?
Yes, I have.

I don't think the M3 CS residuals logic applies. This is a more desirable and better car in my opinion. Personally I have no interest in a M3,4,5,6 etc. I wanted the M2 as it is smaller and lighter, yet still capable of carrying 4.

LotusJas

1,324 posts

232 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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London GT3 said:
BMW UK will make allocations
I'm not sure of that bit. BMW HQ have not decided global allocations yet, so I am unsure of the interaction in terms of country allocations.

It is possible however that final in-country allocations will be made in local countries though. (Anyway, mine is certain.)

Alex L

2,575 posts

255 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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LotusJas said:
Yes, I have..
My local dealership has asked for a £5k deposit and they’ll request an allocation for me - how have you managed to order one already?

I’m told I’ll have a good chance as I placed a speculative deposit two and a half years ago. Saying that I’ve also got a slot for a Cayman GT4 which is probably my preference for very similar money.

s2000db

1,156 posts

154 months

Sunday 10th November 2019
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Anyone know what the weight difference between a M2CS and a M4CS is?