M2 Competition

[Terminator X]

dotty said:

I only ever recall him saying his 1M was tweaked by Litcho. This wasin the original (N55) M2 vid he did back in the day,..!

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[dotty]

The ugly sisters and my m2c ..

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[tertius]

Couple of questions if I may ... starting to feel that getting a 1M to my preferred spec (and price!) may be impossible so I'm looking at M2Cs:

1. what are people's thoughts on used pricing at the moment - there seem plenty in the sub £40k range - going up or down? Presume the expected end to lockdown may influence this considerably

2. are there any truly essential options? E.g. there's an orange car at a dealers (Barons Borehamwood) that appears to have no options at all (bar DCT) - would you consider that? If not why not?

[Terminator X]

tertius said:

Couple of questions if I may ... starting to feel that getting a 1M to my preferred spec (and price!) may be impossible so I'm looking at M2Cs:

1. what are people's thoughts on used pricing at the moment - there seem plenty in the sub £40k range - going up or down? Presume the expected end to lockdown may influence this considerably

2. are there any truly essential options? E.g. there's an orange car at a dealers (Barons Borehamwood) that appears to have no options at all (bar DCT) - would you consider that? If not why not?

FYI these were the options, I have the ones marked with an [x]:

M Driver’s package
Comprises:
– Top-speed increase to 174mph (280km/h)1
– Optional BMW Driver Training2

M2 Comfort pack [x]
Comprises:
– Comfort Access
– Enhanced Bluetooth with wireless charging
– Reversing Assist camera
– Steering wheel heating
– Seat adjustment – front, electric with driver memory
– WiFi hotspot preparation

M2 Plus pack [x]
– 19" M Y-spoke style 788 M wheels, Dark finish
– BMW Icon Adaptive LED Headlights
– Loudspeaker system – harman/kardon
– Sun protection glass

M DCT Gearbox, seven-speed M Double Clutch transmission with DRIVELOGIC [x]

Upgraded M2 Competition braking system

BMW Icon Adaptive LED Headlights

Driving Assistant
Comprises:
– Attentiveness Assistant
– City Collision Mitigation
– Forward Collision Warning
– Lane Departure Warning
– Preventive Pedestrian Protection

Speed-limit Info [x]

To me the perfect ish Spec although I would have probably upgraded the brakes and lost the DCT if it was a factory order.

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[ben5575]

I have the Plus pack but not the Comfort pack through choice - I didn't see the value of it at the time of buying.

If I had my time again, I probably would opt for the comfort pack as well. Mainly for the reversing camera, not that there's an issue, but once you've had cars with them, it's hard to go back to one without. Not a deal breaker for me (obviously).

I would say the Adaptive headlights/plus pack is a must though.

[Square Leg]

On some earlier Comps things like steering wheel heating and speed limit display weren’t part of a pack, they had to be specced separately (my car for example, reg Nov ‘18)

[DonRustone]

ben5575 said:

I have the Plus pack but not the Comfort pack through choice - I didn't see the value of it at the time of buying.

If I had my time again, I probably would opt for the comfort pack as well. Mainly for the reversing camera, not that there's an issue, but once you've had cars with them, it's hard to go back to one without. Not a deal breaker for me (obviously).

I would say the Adaptive headlights/plus pack is a must though.

I'd agree with the above; I didn't pick the Comfort Pack partly because of (unfounded?) concerns around the security of comfort access and reports of phones overheating in the wireless charge dock.
I added the reversing camera on its own but I still can't park this car straight! I'm always at an angle and swear the rear is wider and the mirrors distort the picture but I digress...

Also, more useful perhaps is that at some stage BMW included the electrically folding mirrors + reverse dip function without having electric seats. Or at least I believe they didn't come with manual seats before a certain model year if someone can confirm.

[UmpaLoompa]

tertius said:

Couple of questions if I may ... starting to feel that getting a 1M to my preferred spec (and price!) may be impossible so I'm looking at M2Cs:

1. what are people's thoughts on used pricing at the moment - there seem plenty in the sub £40k range - going up or down? Presume the expected end to lockdown may influence this considerably

2. are there any truly essential options? E.g. there's an orange car at a dealers (Barons Borehamwood) that appears to have no options at all (bar DCT) - would you consider that? If not why not?

Clearly my opinion only but when I was in the market last year I would not have bought a car without both Plus and Comfort packs...which to be fair was the majority of cars on the market. I suspect cars without both would probably be harder to sell on to the majority of buyers.

[DC-1]

If I was you I'd simply look for the most highly specified you can get.

Plus pack and comfort pack are both a must IMO. Plenty around with both packs. If you can add the BBK then get that also.

Different people will value different things so it's best to review the options and decide what you want as a minimum before hunting for cars.

[tertius]

DC-1 said:

If I was you I'd simply look for the most highly specified you can get.

Plus pack and comfort pack are both a must IMO. Plenty around with both packs. If you can add the BBK then get that also.

Different people will value different things so it's best to review the options and decide what you want as a minimum before hunting for cars.

Thanks, guess I’m trying to understand from owners which are the options that really make a difference when living with the car. Take the big brakes - agree they look great but from reading this thread they add weight and consumable cost - is there a real advantage for a primarily (at least 95% +) road car? I’m not expecting to track it (speaking as someone who has modded and tracked a few cars, including upgrading the brakes to a BBK!) - or to put it another way do you notice the standard brakes are lacking in road driving?

Edited for dreadful spelling and to clarify a bit what I was asking

Edited by tertius on Thursday 18th March 07:55

[Square Leg]

As above, good advice.

I hunted down a HS car with orange stitching but they were very thin on the ground at the time.

[DC-1]

tertius said:

Thanks, guess I’m trying to understand from owners which are the options that really make a difference when living with the car. Take the big brakes - agree they look great but from reading this thread they add weight and consumable cost - is their a real advantage for a primarily (at least 95% +) road car? I’m not expecting to track it (speaking as someone who has modded and tracked a few cars, including upgrading the brakes to a BBK!)

Its all personal preference really as what matters to me won't necessarily matter to you.

For comparison I was coming from a well spec'd M4 Competition so when I ordered my M2C I added every optional extra excluding the increased top speed to make it feel more of a like for like change.

There's no options on the car I would lose if I had the choose apart from the lane assist function which I have always had switched off.

Now as far as the creature comforts are concerned you really need to assess what you can and cannot live without and are you prepared to compromise on certain things.

I've never had a heated steering wheel until I had this car and now I don't think I'd have a daily driver without one!

I hope you find the spec to suit your needs as it really is a fantastic car irrespective of the spec.

[tertius]

DC-1 said:

Its all personal preference really as what matters to me won't necessarily matter to you.

For comparison I was coming from a well spec'd M4 Competition so when I ordered my M2C I added every optional extra excluding the increased top speed to make it feel more of a like for like change.

There's no options on the car I would lose if I had the choose apart from the lane assist function which I have always had switched off.

Now as far as the creature comforts are concerned you really need to assess what you can and cannot live without and are you prepared to compromise on certain things.

I've never had a heated steering wheel until I had this car and now I don't think I'd have a daily driver without one!

I hope you find the spec to suit your needs as it really is a fantastic car irrespective of the spec.

Yes, I can see all that, makes perfect sense - its just so hard at the moment as you can't actually see anything so was trying to get some input from owners.

Purely from reading around I think my preferred spec would be orange with plus pack and nothing else ... but that appears non-existent ,,, so it becomes a question of what to compromise on?

[thatsprettyshady]

Comfort and plus pack is a must IMO. Larger brakes look nice but unnecessary for road use.

[London GT3]

Regarding prices I would say that prices for M2 Comps have been dropping but quite slowly. I have spent the last six months finding the right car and purchased a 6,800 mile Orange M2 Comp from Sytner last month for £43,500. It is a manual car with every option including big brakes but no sunroof. My criteria had been manual, big brakes, no sunroof and I wasn't bothered about the rest as I want it for track days. However this one is fully loaded.

Prices have held up quite well I think because a new M2 Comp is no longer available and the new car is not yet announced.

[tertius]

London GT3 said:

Regarding prices I would say that prices for M2 Comps have been dropping but quite slowly. I have spent the last six months finding the right car and purchased a 6,800 mile Orange M2 Comp from Sytner last month for £43,500. It is a manual car with every option including big brakes but no sunroof. My criteria had been manual, big brakes, no sunroof and I wasn't bothered about the rest as I want it for track days. However this one is fully loaded.

Prices have held up quite well I think because a new M2 Comp is no longer available and the new car is not yet announced.

Thanks very much - wanting a manual would have made it a much longer search I imagine, not many of them about!

[AliMc99]

As OP’s have noted majority of cars have both packs (dealers speccing for stock always seemed to have then- alongside DCT!). I factory ordered my manual with both packs- mostly for residual purposes- they add quite a bit to the residual pcp. What they give you are nice bits and pieces but I wouldn’t really miss anything they give you. BBK is a very rare option as is orange stiching (on anything any exterior colour other than sunset orange). I have a friend with the standard brakes and they are fine for normal road use but I can notice the difference with the BBK.

[thatsprettyshady]

AliMc99 said:

As OP’s have noted majority of cars have both packs (dealers speccing for stock always seemed to have then- alongside DCT!). I factory ordered my manual with both packs- mostly for residual purposes- they add quite a bit to the residual pcp. What they give you are nice bits and pieces but I wouldn’t really miss anything they give you. BBK is a very rare option as is orange stiching (on anything any exterior colour other than sunset orange). I have a friend with the standard brakes and they are fine for normal road use but I can notice the difference with the BBK.

My HS car is orange stitching I had no idea it was rare?