Your M2 Competition experience so far....
Discussion
VerySideways said:
Heated seats are standard on the M2 Competition in the UK - what have you got?
And if your brakes are giving up that quickly i'd suggest there's something wrong with them, that's not normal for the stock brakes on the M2 or M2C.
Agree on the quiet engine and the steering feel, but as you say i think that's symptomatic of modern stuff in general.
I thought from threads on here that some of the first M2 Competitions built didn’t have heated seats as standard. And I’m sure I’ve seen a few instances of heated seats listed in optional equipment on AUC. And if your brakes are giving up that quickly i'd suggest there's something wrong with them, that's not normal for the stock brakes on the M2 or M2C.
Agree on the quiet engine and the steering feel, but as you say i think that's symptomatic of modern stuff in general.
I was impressed by the brakes when I flung one around the Brecon Beacons
The brakes perform very well - stopping power and modulation is excellent.
But in my experience they are prone to fade with hard use and by my definition that is a weak point for a performance car. Never had any issues on a Porsche for example.
Maybe some decent fluid would sort it out.
But in my experience they are prone to fade with hard use and by my definition that is a weak point for a performance car. Never had any issues on a Porsche for example.
Maybe some decent fluid would sort it out.
In fact I’ll clarify - the fade I experienced had the pedal go very soft and long. The car still stopped but obviously under that circumstance the only thing you do is back off and let the pedal feel return.
Be interested to know if anyone has tracked their car and experienced similar.
Be interested to know if anyone has tracked their car and experienced similar.
gubsta said:
Standard brakes are terrible - I had a very soft pedal after a 3-4 minute blat down a twisty NSL road. Very unnerving and does make me back off in the car - there is no way it would last a lap on a track.
As i said - there's something wrong with your car if you're getting serious fade after 3 or 4 minutes on a twisty NSL road.Get it checked out.
gubsta said:
In fact I’ll clarify - the fade I experienced had the pedal go very soft and long. The car still stopped but obviously under that circumstance the only thing you do is back off and let the pedal feel return.
Be interested to know if anyone has tracked their car and experienced similar.
After 20000 miles of hard driving in my M2C nothing remotely like that has happened. The standard brakes are great. Get yours checked out. Be interested to know if anyone has tracked their car and experienced similar.
Smuler said:
I thought from threads on here that some of the first M2 Competitions built didn’t have heated seats as standard. And I’m sure I’ve seen a few instances of heated seats listed in optional equipment on AUC.
Yup I had to pay £300 extra for heated seats on mine, ordered in Sept 2018. gubsta said:
The brakes perform very well - stopping power and modulation is excellent.
But in my experience they are prone to fade with hard use and by my definition that is a weak point for a performance car. Never had any issues on a Porsche for example.
Maybe some decent fluid would sort it out.
I was expecting worse as my M6GC brakes were terrible for fade.But in my experience they are prone to fade with hard use and by my definition that is a weak point for a performance car. Never had any issues on a Porsche for example.
Maybe some decent fluid would sort it out.
But M2C brakes work well in general.
Anyway I had orange goodridge lines and Motul rbf600 fitted which has firmed up the pedal no end and removed any trace of mush even on high speed slows.
Pads seem OK though.
I test drove two M2s this week. An M2C DCT and an older M2 with a manual. I was hoping it was going to make my mind up on the manual car, but it hasn't. It won't be used as a daily and I love driver interaction. It will be replacing my V8 Vantage and I have an aircooled 911 for B-road fun.
I was fully expecting to be conviced that manual was the way to go, but it felt a little flat. That may be down to the N55 engine in the manual car. The M2C with DCT was very impressive. The only annoyance was that it was holding on to higher gears when rolling up to roundabouts and junctions. I didn't get chance to play with all of the settings but I assume I can set it up or press a button so that if I'm rolling up to a roundabout at 15mph it's not still in 4th gear? I don't want to have to wait for it to kick down so I can get into the gap in traffic. I know I can take control with the paddles, but it seems unnecessary every time.
I was fully expecting to be conviced that manual was the way to go, but it felt a little flat. That may be down to the N55 engine in the manual car. The M2C with DCT was very impressive. The only annoyance was that it was holding on to higher gears when rolling up to roundabouts and junctions. I didn't get chance to play with all of the settings but I assume I can set it up or press a button so that if I'm rolling up to a roundabout at 15mph it's not still in 4th gear? I don't want to have to wait for it to kick down so I can get into the gap in traffic. I know I can take control with the paddles, but it seems unnecessary every time.
BrewsterBear said:
I test drove two M2s this week. An M2C DCT and an older M2 with a manual. I was hoping it was going to make my mind up on the manual car, but it hasn't. It won't be used as a daily and I love driver interaction. It will be replacing my V8 Vantage and I have an aircooled 911 for B-road fun.
I was fully expecting to be conviced that manual was the way to go, but it felt a little flat. That may be down to the N55 engine in the manual car. The M2C with DCT was very impressive. The only annoyance was that it was holding on to higher gears when rolling up to roundabouts and junctions. I didn't get chance to play with all of the settings but I assume I can set it up or press a button so that if I'm rolling up to a roundabout at 15mph it's not still in 4th gear? I don't want to have to wait for it to kick down so I can get into the gap in traffic. I know I can take control with the paddles, but it seems unnecessary every time.
The aggression of the shifts can be controlled on the DCT and also if the engine is in sport+ mode it tends to hold onto the gear longer on upshift and downshift. I was fully expecting to be conviced that manual was the way to go, but it felt a little flat. That may be down to the N55 engine in the manual car. The M2C with DCT was very impressive. The only annoyance was that it was holding on to higher gears when rolling up to roundabouts and junctions. I didn't get chance to play with all of the settings but I assume I can set it up or press a button so that if I'm rolling up to a roundabout at 15mph it's not still in 4th gear? I don't want to have to wait for it to kick down so I can get into the gap in traffic. I know I can take control with the paddles, but it seems unnecessary every time.
BrewsterBear said:
I test drove two M2s this week. An M2C DCT and an older M2 with a manual. I was hoping it was going to make my mind up on the manual car, but it hasn't. It won't be used as a daily and I love driver interaction. It will be replacing my V8 Vantage and I have an aircooled 911 for B-road fun.
I was fully expecting to be conviced that manual was the way to go, but it felt a little flat. That may be down to the N55 engine in the manual car. The M2C with DCT was very impressive. The only annoyance was that it was holding on to higher gears when rolling up to roundabouts and junctions. I didn't get chance to play with all of the settings but I assume I can set it up or press a button so that if I'm rolling up to a roundabout at 15mph it's not still in 4th gear? I don't want to have to wait for it to kick down so I can get into the gap in traffic. I know I can take control with the paddles, but it seems unnecessary every time.
I had the same experience! I was fully expecting to be conviced that manual was the way to go, but it felt a little flat. That may be down to the N55 engine in the manual car. The M2C with DCT was very impressive. The only annoyance was that it was holding on to higher gears when rolling up to roundabouts and junctions. I didn't get chance to play with all of the settings but I assume I can set it up or press a button so that if I'm rolling up to a roundabout at 15mph it's not still in 4th gear? I don't want to have to wait for it to kick down so I can get into the gap in traffic. I know I can take control with the paddles, but it seems unnecessary every time.
I have a E46 M3 manual.
I drove a OG M2 with DCT, liked it but prefer manual and didn't like the seats.
I then had the opportunity to drive a OG M2 manual and a M2 Comp, sadly with DCT, back to back.
Forget the transmission, the M2 Comp was a massively better car, better engine , better suspension, more steering feel, felt hunkered more like my E46.
But comparing the OG M2s the better drive was the DCT, there was something not quite right about the manual, I didn't get the buzz I get from N/a manuals. I've had similar experiences with a N55 335i manual, that didn't feel as right for me as it should have.
I've yet to drive a M2 Comp manual or any S55 with a manual, as I've only driven a M4 DCT.
Would be interested to hear your views if you do drive a M2 Comp manual.
Smuler said:
BrewsterBear said:
I test drove two M2s this week. An M2C DCT and an older M2 with a manual. I was hoping it was going to make my mind up on the manual car, but it hasn't. It won't be used as a daily and I love driver interaction. It will be replacing my V8 Vantage and I have an aircooled 911 for B-road fun.
I was fully expecting to be conviced that manual was the way to go, but it felt a little flat. That may be down to the N55 engine in the manual car. The M2C with DCT was very impressive. The only annoyance was that it was holding on to higher gears when rolling up to roundabouts and junctions. I didn't get chance to play with all of the settings but I assume I can set it up or press a button so that if I'm rolling up to a roundabout at 15mph it's not still in 4th gear? I don't want to have to wait for it to kick down so I can get into the gap in traffic. I know I can take control with the paddles, but it seems unnecessary every time.
I had the same experience! I was fully expecting to be conviced that manual was the way to go, but it felt a little flat. That may be down to the N55 engine in the manual car. The M2C with DCT was very impressive. The only annoyance was that it was holding on to higher gears when rolling up to roundabouts and junctions. I didn't get chance to play with all of the settings but I assume I can set it up or press a button so that if I'm rolling up to a roundabout at 15mph it's not still in 4th gear? I don't want to have to wait for it to kick down so I can get into the gap in traffic. I know I can take control with the paddles, but it seems unnecessary every time.
I have a E46 M3 manual.
I drove a OG M2 with DCT, liked it but prefer manual and didn't like the seats.
I then had the opportunity to drive a OG M2 manual and a M2 Comp, sadly with DCT, back to back.
Forget the transmission, the M2 Comp was a massively better car, better engine , better suspension, more steering feel, felt hunkered more like my E46.
But comparing the OG M2s the better drive was the DCT, there was something not quite right about the manual, I didn't get the buzz I get from N/a manuals. I've had similar experiences with a N55 335i manual, that didn't feel as right for me as it should have.
I've yet to drive a M2 Comp manual or any S55 with a manual, as I've only driven a M4 DCT.
Would be interested to hear your views if you do drive a M2 Comp manual.
Billy_Whizzzz said:
I’ve got a manual M2C. It comes into its own when pressing on and then feels incredibly engaging, and perfectly suited to the manual. It replaces a Z4M and a M140i and I prefer the set up in the M2C
I like Joe Achilles youtube vids on his manual car although he's had a few upgrades.He swears by the manual having had the M2 DCT and the 140 ZF
FocusRS3 said:
Billy_Whizzzz said:
I’ve got a manual M2C. It comes into its own when pressing on and then feels incredibly engaging, and perfectly suited to the manual. It replaces a Z4M and a M140i and I prefer the set up in the M2C
I like Joe Achilles youtube vids on his manual car although he's had a few upgrades.He swears by the manual having had the M2 DCT and the 140 ZF
I have an M2C manual much more involving than the DCT find one and try it, the M2C is a different car altogether than the M2.
Two weeks in and really enjoying my Black M2 comp DCT, still running in so have not extended engine but a few observations about moving from 2017 Golf Gti manual (check my profile to see what else i've owned) and running current V90 momentum T4...
-Only added plus back to get HK, dark wheels and glass and LED light upgrade
-Harman Kardon stereo is just OK, slight better than standard GTI setup, nowhere near as rich as basic spec Volvo V90 system my wife drives, does come to life at higher volumes though (very similar to the HK setup in i3)
-Adaptive headlights are great, super bright and adjust to oncoming cars well
-Ride is slightly more nuggety than GTI, reminds a little of my 1st gen BMW mini cooper on sports suspension
-Heated seats were standard on my April 2019 order
-Fold down rear seats included - these were shown as an option on the BMW car builder at time, nice little bonus!
-Coded enhanced bluetooth and Spotify app works pretty well over bluetooth but still planning to get Apple carplay coded after RIS (would have been £700 to get as an option new)
-Getting 27mpg on my usual commute driving 'normally'. GTI would easily get 37mpg with the odd 40mpg+ V90 gets a little better than M2 with occasional stretch to mid 30's mpg. 3.2 auto ford ranger managed 24mpg!
-Got a lovely mechanical feel, nice tight diff
-Sweet steering (not quite as nice as the old 996, reminds me a little of S2000)
-Love the compact size and feels very wieldy (obvious not able to open up engine yet)
-Like the adjustable traction
-Getting used to DCT, not natural yet but happy I chose (lease was cheaper than manual ver.)
-Itching to give it some!
-Have Alphabet/BMW lease fitted a dashcam? Spotted this today when looking at where to fit my own cam, cant find any reference on web to this other than aftermarket cams.
-Only added plus back to get HK, dark wheels and glass and LED light upgrade
-Harman Kardon stereo is just OK, slight better than standard GTI setup, nowhere near as rich as basic spec Volvo V90 system my wife drives, does come to life at higher volumes though (very similar to the HK setup in i3)
-Adaptive headlights are great, super bright and adjust to oncoming cars well
-Ride is slightly more nuggety than GTI, reminds a little of my 1st gen BMW mini cooper on sports suspension
-Heated seats were standard on my April 2019 order
-Fold down rear seats included - these were shown as an option on the BMW car builder at time, nice little bonus!
-Coded enhanced bluetooth and Spotify app works pretty well over bluetooth but still planning to get Apple carplay coded after RIS (would have been £700 to get as an option new)
-Getting 27mpg on my usual commute driving 'normally'. GTI would easily get 37mpg with the odd 40mpg+ V90 gets a little better than M2 with occasional stretch to mid 30's mpg. 3.2 auto ford ranger managed 24mpg!
-Got a lovely mechanical feel, nice tight diff
-Sweet steering (not quite as nice as the old 996, reminds me a little of S2000)
-Love the compact size and feels very wieldy (obvious not able to open up engine yet)
-Like the adjustable traction
-Getting used to DCT, not natural yet but happy I chose (lease was cheaper than manual ver.)
-Itching to give it some!
-Have Alphabet/BMW lease fitted a dashcam? Spotted this today when looking at where to fit my own cam, cant find any reference on web to this other than aftermarket cams.
Edited by hoganscrogan on Saturday 5th October 12:30
I have been looking at M2Cs recently which there are very few manuals and a very nice well speced orange June 19 nominal mileage car at £43k came up and put it on WBaC just to see what a trade bid would be like and it came out at £33k! 
Has anyone had any bids on their cars and are they as bad as this?
Has anyone had any bids on their cars and are they as bad as this?
Just put my car through - Dec 18, 3200 miles
£33,300
Wbac isn’t great for these type of cars anyway.
I remember putting my 987 Boxster Spyder through it once - value was around £28k but I sold it for £39k at 3 years old and 30k Miles.
Considering I only paid £45k for it new..
If you want an M2 then just buy one.
Just imagine if you’d paid list for one !
£33,300
Wbac isn’t great for these type of cars anyway.
I remember putting my 987 Boxster Spyder through it once - value was around £28k but I sold it for £39k at 3 years old and 30k Miles.
Considering I only paid £45k for it new..
If you want an M2 then just buy one.
Just imagine if you’d paid list for one !
MellowshipSlinky said:
Just put my car through - Dec 18, 3200 miles
£33,300
Wbac isn’t great for these type of cars anyway.
I remember putting my 987 Boxster Spyder through it once - value was around £28k but I sold it for £39k at 3 years old and 30k Miles.
Considering I only paid £45k for it new..
If you want an M2 then just buy one.
Just imagine if you’d paid list for one !
Is your manual?£33,300
Wbac isn’t great for these type of cars anyway.
I remember putting my 987 Boxster Spyder through it once - value was around £28k but I sold it for £39k at 3 years old and 30k Miles.
Considering I only paid £45k for it new..
If you want an M2 then just buy one.
Just imagine if you’d paid list for one !
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