2019 X3M Competition

2019 X3M Competition

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Kudos

2,672 posts

174 months

Friday 10th January 2020
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I picked one up - Donnington Grey, black leather, Pano sunroof, Comfort pack, heated seats front/rear, Apple Car play, enhanced Bluetooth. £3k deposit, £545/month. Couldn't go past it for that price.

Previous car was a Porsche Cayenne. This is a firmer ride, but still enjoyable. Easier to park as smaller than the Cayenne

Was considering a Porsche Macan or another Cayenne, but very pleased with this.

Less happy about this running in service, seems to be a bit of a con with significant price rises over last couple of years and in comparison with Mercedes giving their AMG equivalent for free

Terminator X

15,080 posts

204 months

Friday 10th January 2020
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Kudos said:
Less happy about this running in service, seems to be a bit of a con with significant price rises over last couple of years and in comparison with Mercedes giving their AMG equivalent for free
If you get to BMW before you've had the RIS you can purchase 3 years of servicing etc which incl the RIS. Seems to work out cheaper that way.

TX.

JNW1

7,791 posts

194 months

Friday 10th January 2020
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R.Sole said:
JMBMWM5 said:
JNW1 said:
I see EVO really like the X3M then......

https://www.evo.co.uk/bmw/x3/202087/bmw-x3-m-2020-...
That is a load of bullst, I have test driven those cars, and are better than they say, firm yes but to firm NO.
Its not bullst, the tyre roar along with the terrible suspension made this car a complete non starter for me and I really really wanted to like this car because the deals were out of this world.

But there was a very good reason why they were giving them away! wink
And there's the enigma that is the ride of the X3M - some people think it's fine while others consider it totally unacceptable! Can't ever remember a car that so completely divides opinion on this issue; usually there's a consensus but with the X3M there seems to be entrenched positions on both sides with each dismissing the other - it's a bit like Brexit!! smile

JMBMWM5

2,284 posts

198 months

Friday 10th January 2020
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R.Sole said:
Its not bullst, the tyre roar along with the terrible suspension made this car a complete non starter for me and I really really wanted to like this car because the deals were out of this world.

But there was a very good reason why they were giving them away! wink
I bet the trye pressures on your test drive were way up, I found 40PSI+ on the one I tested, I dropped them too 35PSI, drove very well and quiet.

R.Sole

12,241 posts

206 months

Saturday 11th January 2020
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JMBMWM5 said:
R.Sole said:
Its not bullst, the tyre roar along with the terrible suspension made this car a complete non starter for me and I really really wanted to like this car because the deals were out of this world.

But there was a very good reason why they were giving them away! wink
I bet the trye pressures on your test drive were way up, I found 40PSI+ on the one I tested, I dropped them too 35PSI, drove very well and quiet.
Could be,and the one tested by Evo and the YouTube guy and some on here?

Geomac79

51 posts

87 months

Saturday 11th January 2020
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I moved from a F80 M3 to the X3MC early December. I used to drive about in sport mode on the M3 and now I drive about in comfort mode on the X3MC, I really don’t feel any difference. I will note that I had Michelin Pilot Sport 4s on the both cars, I really think the tyres are making a big difference. I would like to know if the people who are test driving and saying it is unbearable are on the continentals or the Michelin’s.

I love the X3 and can say I’m not missing the M3 at all, my only grievance is that they could have made the X3M stand out out from a normal X3, nothing worse when someone drives up beside you thinking you have the same car, that’s until you put the foot down smile

Billy_Whizzzz

2,007 posts

143 months

Saturday 11th January 2020
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Geomac79 said:
I moved from a F80 M3 to the X3MC early December. I used to drive about in sport mode on the M3 and now I drive about in comfort mode on the X3MC, I really don’t feel any difference. I will note that I had Michelin Pilot Sport 4s on the both cars, I really think the tyres are making a big difference. I would like to know if the people who are test driving and saying it is unbearable are on the continentals or the Michelin’s.

I love the X3 and can say I’m not missing the M3 at all, my only grievance is that they could have made the X3M stand out out from a normal X3, nothing worse when someone drives up beside you thinking you have the same car, that’s until you put the foot down smile
My X3M tyres were set far too high on collection. Dropping the pressures down on the Contis helps. On very rough lanes it’s a bit of a pain but totally fine on all other roads, it a bit bouncy in comfort at times. FWIW I think the Evo review is fair - the engine is a bit characterless, the gearbox a bit stupid at times and the handling is wooden or numb but I’m quite happy with mine as a fast, debadged and discreet muddy work hack.

Kudos

2,672 posts

174 months

Saturday 11th January 2020
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Terminator X said:
If you get to BMW before you've had the RIS you can purchase 3 years of servicing etc which incl the RIS. Seems to work out cheaper that way.

TX.
Is this the “£45 month” deal or is there something else?

JMBMWM5

2,284 posts

198 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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What sort of discount can I expect this quarter, Anyone?.

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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JMBMWM5 said:
What sort of discount can I expect this quarter, Anyone?.
Only seeing £14,500, John. In Nov/Dec it was £20K+

RichDS

361 posts

73 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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Furious with myself that I missed the Q4 deals!!

PorkInsider

5,888 posts

141 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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Have to say I'm with EVO regarding the ride quality.

I have an M4 Comp and I found the X3M I drove to be far worse in harshness. Maybe they don't all ride the same if some are finding the opposite?

Wouldn't have expected BMW to have started fiddling with the suspension quite so early on, though.

R.Sole

12,241 posts

206 months

Sunday 19th January 2020
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PorkInsider said:
Have to say I'm with EVO regarding the ride quality.

I have an M4 Comp and I found the X3M I drove to be far worse in harshness. Maybe they don't all ride the same if some are finding the opposite?

Wouldn't have expected BMW to have started fiddling with the suspension quite so early on, though.
The X3M that I drove was beyond uncomfortable for a “sports car” let alone a SUV with 3 suspension settings!
But the real deal breaker for me was the tyre roar which on poorly surfaced roads was horrendous.

VerySideways

10,238 posts

272 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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RichDS said:
Furious with myself that I missed the Q4 deals!!
Don't panic. There are loads on Autotrader from mid £50's already.
And a few people who bought in Q4 are looking to get out already.

cjs 28

160 posts

219 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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I’ve bought a X3m and was worried about the ride after reading the reviews , but it’s absolutely fine .
But I’m coming from a m2 and so the X3m is luxury in comparison. In fact even my 82 year old dad said it was fine .
Tyre roar is quite loud but again not as bad as the m2 . So I guess it just depends where you are coming from , if your coming from a normal suv it will feel hard . For me it’s as close to a m series sports car but with the ability to carry 4 adults and a dog !
Until they do a m3 or m5 touring again I think it’s the best alternative.

moffat

1,020 posts

225 months

Wednesday 22nd January 2020
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PorkInsider said:
Have to say I'm with EVO regarding the ride quality.

I have an M4 Comp and I found the X3M I drove to be far worse in harshness. Maybe they don't all ride the same if some are finding the opposite?

Wouldn't have expected BMW to have started fiddling with the suspension quite so early on, though.
There is an important setting for the adaptive suspension that defaults a stiffer ride from the factory combined with tyre pressures that are too high too. I've changed my to Partial Load and 2.3 bar (from Full Load and 2.9 bar). It makes a major difference.

I've no issue with the suspension, but I do have issue with the boomy noise on broken road surfaces and this for me is the only major negative to the X3M.

Tea Pot One

1,847 posts

228 months

Wednesday 22nd January 2020
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No one has mentioned the lack of torque below 3K rpm ... any comments on that ? biggrin

Billy_Whizzzz

2,007 posts

143 months

Wednesday 22nd January 2020
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Tea Pot One said:
No one has mentioned the lack of torque below 3K rpm ... any comments on that ? biggrin
3000 miles in I concur with the EVO review but I’m still glad I have it. There’s no torque below 3000rom but if you use the gears it’s fine. Isn’t that the point of a petrol engine and gears? It’s quick, but without any character. The engine is inert and charmless. It goes round corners well enough but with zero feedback or subtlety. The ride is harsh on broken surfaces but the bouncyness is more of an issue. Oh, and the gearbox is pretty rubbish. Irrespective, it’s a fast appliance that does it’s job and I couldn’t care less about or think what else I’d have instead for the money. I live up a rutted track right out in the sticks and do loads of miles otherwise of course I’d have an estate car instead of a pimped SUV. Luckily I have a manual 911 for all the interesting stuff.

Edited by Billy_Whizzzz on Wednesday 22 January 20:01

Wills2

22,832 posts

175 months

Wednesday 22nd January 2020
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moffat said:
There is an important setting for the adaptive suspension that defaults a stiffer ride from the factory
You're going to have to explain that a bit more....

Wills2

22,832 posts

175 months

Wednesday 22nd January 2020
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Tea Pot One said:
No one has mentioned the lack of torque below 3K rpm ... any comments on that ? biggrin
Difficult to mention/comment is as it produces max torque below 3k rpm at 2600rpm .