Are M Cars faster than TVRs in a straight line???

[longbow]

Guys, only days to go until Fighting Torque - a drag racing day for standard 'supercars'. I'd like more M cars there if possible. The TVR Cerbera will be the benchmark. So far we're getting a load of excuses as to why some high performance marques won't come along, are any of you guys up for it? Ideally looking at the V10 M5/M6 crowd, but we have an M5 E39 running, and also a 'chipped' 335d with over 500lbft of torque.

[english68]

Saw a 320i touring clear 1/4m in 17s at Santa Pod last Sunday.

Pretty impressive - I had bet on around 20s!

What would a Cerbera do? 12s? 13s?

Are the BMW and TVR diffs/trans/etc up to that kind of treatment? - There's so much grip on the start.

I would never try it in my M3!

[longbow]

The fastest TVR Cerbera with standard engine internals is 11.9 @ 119 - it was a 4.5. I've only run my 4.2 once at the pod and it did 12.4 @ 115mph. Most Cerbs do 12.5 - 13 secs or so.

There's no harm in finding out how an M3 would fare - there is a very diverse entry list as it stands, so it would be a great benchmarking day for any M car as far as stright line performance goes!!

[english68]

You can assume about half-an-hour for my M3 as I am such a wuss - others may be quicker????!

When and where is the event please?

[john_r]

Had I not been away on hols I would be there and show a few TVR's a thing or two... such as my exhausts!

[longbow]

see www.fightingtorque.org for details, although there are numberous threads also running on the Cerbera forum here on PH. You can register on the site to see confirmed runners - there is no requirement to race if you just want to register - its worth a look around. There are cars coming that would be a good match for any M car, from M3 through to new M5/M6.

[M3John]

In reply to the title of the thread i'd say no BUT given a rolling start an M3 will give a 4.2 a decent run for it's money.....just ask Touching Cloth

[Cliffv8]

bring ya TVR to york raceway this weekend and you can find out, know where did i put that NOS kit

Edited by Cliffv8 on Thursday 2nd August 07:57

[Dave Dax builder]

I very much doubt that a std M3/5/6 would out run a TVR Cerb over the 1/4 mile. Those Cerbs are giant killers aren't they?

[m12_nathan]

Dave Dax builder said:

I very much doubt that a std M3/5/6 would out run a TVR Cerb over the 1/4 mile. Those Cerbs are engine killers aren't they?

Yep.

[Cliffv8]

i remember that Clarkson video,was it "head to head" or something? must be on youtube

edit, found it http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=boH0B7Dn3xc

Edited by Cliffv8 on Thursday 2nd August 08:15

[longbow]

Yeah, similar stuff but over 3/4 mile as oppose to a mile. Come on guys, surely there are some of you with the new M5/M6 that fancy your chances???

[Zod]

m12_nathan said:

Dave Dax builder said:

I very much doubt that a std M3/5/6 would out run a TVR Cerb over the 1/4 mile. Those Cerbs are engine killers aren't they?

Yep.

I doubt a Cerbera could keep up with an M5/M6 over any distance.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=13&...

Edited by Zod on Thursday 2nd August 09:43

[m12_nathan]

Zod said:

m12_nathan said:

Dave Dax builder said:

I very much doubt that a std M3/5/6 would out run a TVR Cerb over the 1/4 mile. Those Cerbs are engine killers aren't they?

Yep.

I doubt a Cerbera could keep up with an M5/M6 over any distance.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=13&...

Edited by Zod on Thursday 2nd August 09:43

Re-read the quote

[M3John]

Dave Dax builder said:

I very much doubt that a std M3/5/6 would out run a TVR Cerb over the 1/4 mile. Those Cerbs are giant killers aren't they?

Yes they are and no, i believe that an ///M car wouldn't. Although i'll be able to let you know for sure in a week or so

[Zod]

m12_nathan said:

Zod said:

m12_nathan said:

Dave Dax builder said:

I very much doubt that a std M3/5/6 would out run a TVR Cerb over the 1/4 mile. Those Cerbs are engine killers aren't they?

Yep.

I doubt a Cerbera could keep up with an M5/M6 over any distance.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=13&...

Edited by Zod on Thursday 2nd August 09:43

Re-read the quote

I'm struggling here. The quote seems to say that a Cerbera would outrun an M car over a 1/4 mile.

[dazren]

Hang on a minute. I hardly think either of Phil's two cerbs are representative powerwise of the average cerb that left Blackpool?

[torres del paine]

Zod said:

m12_nathan said:

Zod said:

m12_nathan said:

Dave Dax builder said:

I very much doubt that a std M3/5/6 would out run a TVR Cerb over the 1/4 mile. Those Cerbs are engine killers aren't they?

Yep.

I doubt a Cerbera could keep up with an M5/M6 over any distance.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=13&...

Edited by Zod on Thursday 2nd August 09:43

Re-read the quote

I'm struggling here. The quote seems to say that a Cerbera would outrun an M car over a 1/4 mile.

Edited to say ENGINE killers.

[Trellis]

I've owned M3/M5, Chimaera, Griffith, Cerbera (4.2) and I think a good M5/M6 will give a Cerbera a run for its money.

So much depends on the specific car - for instance - I know my current M5 would take my old cerbera - mainly because the M5 is a 'good one' and the Cerbera wasnt!

Also (obviously!) so much depends on the driver!

Driver and assuming all cars were running as they should I think 4.2 Cerbs could be 50:50 with the M's. 4.5 Cerbs should take out most heavy cars though!

[Podie]

dazren said:

Hang on a minute. I hardly think either of Phil's two cerbs are representative powerwise of the average cerb that left Blackpool?

The older car is. Running around 420bph these days. Quite a lot of tickled Cerbs are over the 400bhp mark now.