E46 wheels on an E36?

E46 wheels on an E36?

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kusee pee

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204 months

Friday 4th January 2008
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Should I fit E46 M3 18" alloys on my E36 M3 Evo saloon to replace the standard 17" wheels? I want them as an upgrade for the track and need 18" wheels. Is the PCD and offset the same - will they fit? And will they look good? Any advice appreciated.

John D*

17,891 posts

210 months

Friday 4th January 2008
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Don't do it. Looks really naff IMO

kusee pee

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Friday 4th January 2008
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Cheers John, I have a feeling that they might but I'm more concerned about the track upgrade as it's for my track car. So they will fit ok?

John D*

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210 months

Friday 4th January 2008
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No problem smile

Don't know if they are a straight fit, sorry. Are they particularly light? Why do you need 19" for track? Big brakes?

kusee pee

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Friday 4th January 2008
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It's only the 18" that I want to go for, not the 19". There's no great master plan - I just want to be able to run a lower profile and drop the ride and it's easier to do with an 18" rather than the standard 17". My reasoning is that this is a cheap and easy way to bigger wheels that will fit - otherwise I can see myself spending £££s trying to hunt for some proper track wheels and the car's not ready for that type of investment yet. Will they really look naff? I can't find any pics of any.

John D*

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Friday 4th January 2008
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Sorry 19" was a typo. I've seen a few E36 coupes around with the chrome E46 M3 wheels and they are not to my taste at all (suit the E46 shape much better IMO). But if you like it, its your car!

kusee pee

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Friday 4th January 2008
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Thanks, I'm tempted just by the price - I think I agree with you on the looks but the ones I'm tempted by are the less-chromey looking ones so fingers crossed they'll look OK.

Anyone know if the fit is a straight swap? I've found various info about offsets but I have more confidence in the forum's knowledge than the internet's!

Vixpy1

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265 months

Friday 4th January 2008
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John D* said:
Sorry 19" was a typo. I've seen a few E36 coupes around with the chrome E46 M3 wheels and they are not to my taste at all (suit the E46 shape much better IMO). But if you like it, its your car!
I agree

kusee pee

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Friday 4th January 2008
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Remember we're talking the 18" here - they're less chromey and a nicer design IMO. I agree that the chromey 19" style don't look v good. Anyway...anyone know if they fit?confused

iguana

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261 months

Friday 4th January 2008
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The e46M3 18s on e36 do look cack, but 18 a good size for cheap track rubber if you are after used ex race stuff.

CSL 19s on e36 looks blooming good tho IMHO prob drives like cack tho! wink



kusee pee

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Friday 4th January 2008
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Cheers - I agree, those CSL wheels look great. I don't think the 18s will look brilliant but it's the track that decides...and there are some good deals to be had on 18s.

dan101smith

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212 months

Friday 4th January 2008
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They'll look cack, but they do go straight on.

I'd keep your original alloys as well, and only swap the E46 ones on when it is time to track it.

kusee pee

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Friday 4th January 2008
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Cheers Dan, there's the answer I've been looking for! The car's about to become a true track car so I'm not fussed with swapping wheels. The 17" deep-dish ones will probably go in ebay - unless the 18s look so bad I'm embarrassed to take it to the track!

MattOz

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265 months

Friday 4th January 2008
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From memory, the E46 M3 18's will only fit if there you use 4 fronts. The offset of the E46 rears is incorrect.

Matt

kusee pee

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Friday 4th January 2008
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Thanks Matt, can anyone else shed any light on this? I'm presuming that they will fit - and I'm about to bid!

andygtt

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265 months

Friday 4th January 2008
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Having considered this myself I am sure my research showed the rear offset of genuine E46 wheels are wrong and they will not fit straight on.....
I am now also turning my E36 EVO into a track only car and am planning to stick with the std wheels as they are so light and track rubber/slicks are available.... also 330mm discs will fit under a 17in rim.

Mroad

829 posts

216 months

Friday 4th January 2008
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If it's for the track then unsprung weight should be the main priority of rims and looks come way down the list.
Standard 17x7.5 E36 M3 rims won't allow the fitment of my AP 4-pots so I got some new MV2 17x8in replica rims cheap and they weigh less than the originals by a few kilos each.
18in rims will weigh more (tyres may offset that a little) and, from what I have seen, trackday tyres are more expensive in 18" too?

Edited by Mroad on Friday 4th January 20:20

kusee pee

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Friday 4th January 2008
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Cheers guys - thanks for the info re the E46 18s; just in time to stop me bidding and landing myself with wheels that don't fit! I think I'll stick to the 17s for a while and see how they go.

taffyracer

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244 months

Saturday 5th January 2008
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The only reason to go to 18" is to make use of the better compounds available for various slicks, a tad too far i'd say if you're only tracking the car, also means lots of work to the inner wheel arches as well as outer, believe me it's a nightmare and only worth doing if you plan to race it, if it's just for trackdays then stick to 17" and use 235's all round, ex BTCC slicks can be found easily enough to make 235 all round very viable and fun, the 18" will fit by the way, I know of 2 race cars that use them but i wouldn't bother

Edited by taffyracer on Saturday 5th January 13:39

phatgixer

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250 months

Saturday 5th January 2008
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taffyracer said:
The only reason to go to 18" is to make use of the better compounds available for various slicks, a tad too far i'd say, if it's just for track then stick to 17" and use 235 all round, the 18" will fit by the way, I know of 2 race cars that use them
I've used all sorts of sizes and thought I needed to fit 18" rims to cover the 6 pot APs on my racer. I have used OZ and ACS wheels, but then discovered that Dynamics make a set of 17s that fir over the caliprs. The car drives thebest in this config. Road tyres are RE070 225/40/17 all round. Lovely balance. On track I use crossply Dunlops 25 606-17 front an 240 rear.

17 look so much better on the E6 and the car rides lower, benefiting CoG and handling.

In short, don't bother with 18" rims unless you want to bling your car. Performance is better on 17 (albeit Dynamics Rims).