E46 M3 Service Query - Valve Clearances

E46 M3 Service Query - Valve Clearances

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Vroom2

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151 posts

170 months

Friday 5th March 2010
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Hi Chaps,

I have owned a 2002 E46 M3 Coupe for 2 years. It has covered 76,000 trouble free miles. Full BMW Service History to date.

The car is now due an Inspection 1 service, having covered 12,000 miles since last service Feb 2008.

I have heard mixed reports on the need for checking Valve Clearances. Obviously the franchised dealers are happy to take the rocker off at a cost of £700+.

Other garages I have spoken to adopt the "if it ain;t broke, don't fix it" approach to valve clearance checks.

I would be most grateful if you could provide any guidance / thoughts regarding the above.

Many thanks,


John

mat205125

17,790 posts

214 months

Friday 5th March 2010
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Do you plan to have the car done at a main dealer?

http://www.emtecsalisbury.com/prices.htm

Vroom2

Original Poster:

151 posts

170 months

Friday 5th March 2010
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I live in Belfast and plan to use a local non franchised garage.

Just need a little reassurance on whether valve clearances really need to be done, in which case will probably go to Belfast BMW garage.


John.

Vixpy1

42,626 posts

265 months

Friday 5th March 2010
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Yes, they need to be done, and they need to be done when the car is cold, I've seen cars 30bhp down due to the valve clearances being out

mat59

813 posts

214 months

Friday 5th March 2010
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If you take it to an independent specialist you should be able to get it done for under £500. Just check that they adjust the valve clearances in the price.

Great Pretender

26,140 posts

215 months

Friday 5th March 2010
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Vroom2 said:
Hi Chaps,


Other garages I have spoken to adopt the "if it ain;t broke, don't fix it" approach to valve clearance checks.
And it is they whom you must avoid like the plague yes

belleair302

6,859 posts

208 months

Friday 5th March 2010
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Get it done by a specialist who has the correct tools and really understands the importance. Many main dealers will charge you hundreds just for the tools which many don't actually have in stock!!!

Baddie

623 posts

218 months

Friday 5th March 2010
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Great Pretender said:
Vroom2 said:
Hi Chaps,


Other garages I have spoken to adopt the "if it ain;t broke, don't fix it" approach to valve clearance checks.
And it is they whom you must avoid like the plague yes
+1

Do they need doing at the insp I on the E46?

I think they're insp II on my old E34, but that only goes 8-9k miles between indicated services.

Whatever, they are NOT an omit item. A garage told me that about my car, and that they only check them when the cars have a problem. I haven't been back.

CHADROW

24 posts

175 months

Monday 8th March 2010
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Get it done by a specialist who only work on M Cars, dependent where you are, there are a few out there.

sjj84

2,390 posts

220 months

Monday 8th March 2010
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They are meant to be done on both the inspection 1 and 2 on the E46 M3.

V8ish

367 posts

200 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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Just rang Newhall BMW in sheffield on this as my ins 2 is due, and the bloke told me "M3's don't need the valve clearances checking as the the engine is very highly tuned".

That is word for word what he told me!!

Won't be going to them then!!!!


'Yadi

132 posts

181 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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Had a discussion once with a respected Indy regarding costs for my next inspection service (S54 engined z3). Made a point of telling me that it didn't include valve clearances and that that would cost extra (iirc he was in dispute with another customer who hadn't appreciated this). My understanding is it needs to be done and the car will need to be with the mechanic the night before so be ready to query whether the valve clearance is to be done if this isn't the suggested schedule.

CHADROW

24 posts

175 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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Unique valve mechanism. All current BMW double-overhead-camshaft (DOHC) engines employ "bucket-type" hydraulic lifters, actuating the valves directly with minimum noise and no periodic adjustment. For the S54’s rpm potential, BMW M needed a valve train with less reciprocating mass.

To achieve this, they created a different actuating mechanism, using finger-type rocker arms. Pivoting on their own shafts (one on the intake side, one on the exhaust), these small – one could almost say dainty– arms reach out to provide the actuating surface between camshaft and valve. As the entire arm does not move the distance of valve lift, its effective reciprocating mass is less than its actual mass – and it weighs less than the "bucket tappets" in the first place. When all is said and done, the effective mass is 30%less; in turn, this allows lighter valve springs, which also reduce inertia. The lower valve train inertia helps the engine attain its 8000-rpmcapability.

As the system involves no hydraulic maintenance of valve clearance, it does have to be inspected periodically. Lead engine engineer Helmut Himmel asserts that it is unlikely that clearance will actually require adjustment, but if so it is done with shims (tiny metal discs of various thickness) without removal of the camshafts.

The rocker-arm arrangement also results in less friction. Unlike the rocker arms of BMW’s V-12 engine, however, these do not incorporate rollers, which would add too much mass for such a high-revving engine.