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[ali_kat]

Welcome to the club Dave

[dan1981]

Clumber Park Dave?

[bluetone]

Nocturnal said:

A quick one from Cadwell last weekend:

That must tramline like a b@st@rd with those big wheels + stretched tyres?

[Howard-]

I want that red interior :|

[Nocturnal]

UncleDave said:

Ah I recognise that from MX5Nuts..

I recognise yours too, lovely car!

[quote]That must tramline like a b@st@rd with those big wheels + stretched tyres?

No, not at all as the alignment is properly set-up. The tyres are only 195/50s, they're perfectly suitable for an 8J rim if you're looking to reduce sidewall flex.

[Red Firecracker]

Nocturnal said:

No, not at all as the alignment is properly set-up. The tyres are only 195/50s, they're perfectly suitable for an 8J rim if you're looking to reduce sidewall flex.

Not wishing to start a bun fight, it's your car and as I've said before I do like certain elements of it, but 195/50's aren't perfectly suitable for 8J rims according to tyre manufacturer spec books.

What settings are you running on the rear geo (genuine interest, not looking to trip you up or anything)?

[Nocturnal]

Red Firecracker said:

Not wishing to start a bun fight, it's your car and as I've said before I do like certain elements of it, but 195/50's aren't perfectly suitable for 8J rims according to tyre manufacturer spec books.

Haha, not at all matey. Out of interest, where does the argument against stretched tyres come from? I could understand if I was running 165/45 over a 9J rim, but with my current set-up, the bead is seated, and the load/speed ratings are well within their 'safe' limits. I found I wasn't getting a lot of 'feel' when I ran 195/50s on a 7J rim. A guy at a trackday suggest I try slightly stretching them to reduce sidewall flex. I gave it a go and loved it, and have always done it since. So far I've run them for 2yrs now, done trackdays, the 'Ring, plus 40k miles on the road (not on the same tyres obviously), and never had a hint of a problem.

What settings are you running on the rear geo (genuine interest, not looking to trip you up or anything)?

Currently, they're similar to WIMs fast road/track settings. I'll be dialling more negative camber in on the front, and I'm looking at a number of things to help sharpen up the turn-in speed. Other than that though, I find it extroardinarily grippy, and I'm in love with the way it handles at the moment.

Edited by Nocturnal on Saturday 11th April 14:38

[UncleDave]

dan1981 said:

Clumber Park Dave?

Yep
You from around these parts then..? I will have to look out for you, most of the "enthusiast-type" 5's over here are the non-flashing or waving kind. :|

[dan1981]

UncleDave said:

dan1981 said:

Clumber Park Dave?

Yep
You from around these parts then..? I will have to look out for you, most of the "enthusiast-type" 5's over here are the non-flashing or waving kind. :

Live over in Sheffield now but grew up in Clowne / Chesterfield.

I'll keep my eyes peeled! I'm fed up of not getting a wave back from other '5 owners!

[Red Firecracker]

Nocturnal said:

Haha, not at all matey. Out of interest, where does the argument against stretched tyres come from? I could understand if I was running 165/45 over a 9J rim, but with my current set-up, the bead is seated, and the load/speed ratings are well within their 'safe' limits. I found I wasn't getting a lot of 'feel' when I ran 195/50s on a 7J rim. A guy at a trackday suggest I try slightly stretching them to reduce sidewall flex. I gave it a go and loved it, and have always done it since. So far I've run them for 2yrs now, done trackdays, the 'Ring, plus 40k miles on the road (not on the same tyres obviously), and never had a hint of a problem.

I guess the argument against comes from the manufacturers spec, certainly Michelin spec books preclude running 195/50 15's on an 8J rim. But that was a whole multi page thread right there

Nocturnal said:

Currently, they're similar to WIMs fast road/track settings. I'll be dialling more negative camber in on the front, and I'm looking at a number of things to help sharpen up the turn-in speed. Other than that though, I find it extroardinarily grippy, and I'm in love with the way it handles at the moment.

Running OEM myself at the moment, also set by WIM. Again, extremely happy. The reason I asked was that the negative rear camber is very evident in that picture and I wasn't sure if it was the wheel/tyre combination that was accentuating the look.

[Nocturnal]

Red Firecracker said:

I guess the argument against comes from the manufacturers spec, certainly Michelin spec books preclude running 195/50 15's on an 8J rim. But that was a whole multi page thread right there

Ah I see. Surely there's an element of covering their own backs with these specs though? As a kind of example, the company my missus works for make concrete blocks. One of the kind weighs in at 21.4kg, so they have to clearly label that each block is a two-man lift, as the manual handling limit is 20kg. Realistically, they'll never be carried by two people on a site, but the company have therefore covered their backs against any lawsuits. Does that make sense? I know what I mean, hah.

Red Firecracker said:

Running OEM myself at the moment, also set by WIM. Again, extremely happy. The reason I asked was that the negative rear camber is very evident in that picture and I wasn't sure if it was the wheel/tyre combination that was accentuating the look.

Quite possibly. I have run them at more extreme camber than that, but found that it didn't really suit the way I drive. I had the OEM set-up for a while, but found it quite understeery (which I'm starting to feel again now with this one), do you suffer from it at all?

[Red Firecracker]

Nocturnal said:

Ah I see. Surely there's an element of covering their own backs with these specs though? As a kind of example, the company my missus works for make concrete blocks. One of the kind weighs in at 21.4kg, so they have to clearly label that each block is a two-man lift, as the manual handling limit is 20kg. Realistically, they'll never be carried by two people on a site, but the company have therefore covered their backs against any lawsuits. Does that make sense? I know what I mean, hah.

Yep, makes sense, although it's not something I would ever run, but as you say, it works for you. (and to be fair, it's not as extreme as some you see)

Nocturnal said:

I have run them at more extreme camber than that, but found that it didn't really suit the way I drive. I had the OEM set-up for a while, but found it quite understeery (which I'm starting to feel again now with this one), do you suffer from it at all?

When I first took it to WIM it was a mess, but now it is transformed. I should say that I have been the MK2 test car for the OC which means going back every 2 months to check how much the setup has drifted. After the initial setup there was some movement the next time, but since it has been very very marginal, still in the green zone each time. I will certainly be getting it checked/adjusted every 12 months though.

I also guess it would be very difficult to compare our two cars as although we're running the same size tyres, our wheel widths and suspension heights are quite different. I'm not getting any understeer though.

[Nocturnal]

Red Firecracker said:

When I first took it to WIM it was a mess, but now it is transformed. I should say that I have been the MK2 test car for the OC which means going back every 2 months to check how much the setup has drifted. After the initial setup there was some movement the next time, but since it has been very very marginal, still in the green zone each time. I will certainly be getting it checked/adjusted every 12 months though.

I also guess it would be very difficult to compare our two cars as although we're running the same size tyres, our wheel widths and suspension heights are quite different. I'm not getting any understeer though.

Interesting stuff, and I see what you mean about the comparison. Are you at the breakfast meet in Malton tomorrow? Would be good to meet up and have a nosey

Oh, and on topic, some more pics:

[Red Firecracker]

Nocturnal said:

Are you at the breakfast meet in Malton tomorrow? Would be good to meet up and have a nosey

'fraid not, bit of a trek from Brighton!

[Combover]

UncleDave said:

Were you at Oulton on Saturday with this?

[DennisTheMenace]

New look for the snot rocket ...

Stick on number plate







And a Zoom Engineering Fuel lid







Fecking campers

[Red Firecracker]

DennisTheMenace said:

And a Zoom Engineering Fuel lid

You bugger

Very recent purchase from eBay per chance?

[DennisTheMenace]

It was

I know the chap who was selling it through moonrakers so it was nice to catch up and have a chat , and when i picked it up he fitted it as well

This has to bethe most memorable homebrew mod

the Turboot

http://www.mx5nutz.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=4...

[bluetone]

Did you have to blow-over the nose-cone or did the scratches left by the plinth polish-out mate? I have a side-mounted plate and cleaning up the nose-cone is on my list of things to do. Assume you did not use a body-shop as you've plugged the plinth screw holes, rather than getting them filled?

Edited by bluetone on Thursday 23 April 15:50

[DennisTheMenace]

There are scratches but i used some t cut and auto glym to get rid of the worst of it , if you look closely you can see it but from a distance it looks ok , need to find a better way of plugging those holes tough