Lets see your Yank tanks!

[SRT Hellcat]

aeropilot said:

AdeTuono said:

aeropilot said:

AdeTuono said:

Motorama said:

That's got to be my favourite N/A induction set-up ever.

There were two versions of the cross-ram induction, the short ram and the long ram.
The one fitted to Motorama's car is the short ram, which also has part siamesed runners. The long-ram manifold has slightly longer induction runners (by a few inches) and has individual runners per port in the manifold.

Longer than that? The carbs must be outside the wings!

The carb position was about the same place, the runner length were only a few inches longer, and were from memory gained by a slighter more 'humped' shape, so bigger radius, as well as being individual runners.

Like this. The first car I have ever seen with this set up on. Awesome

[aeropilot]

SRT Hellcat said:

aeropilot said:

AdeTuono said:

aeropilot said:

AdeTuono said:

Motorama said:

That's got to be my favourite N/A induction set-up ever.

There were two versions of the cross-ram induction, the short ram and the long ram.
The one fitted to Motorama's car is the short ram, which also has part siamesed runners. The long-ram manifold has slightly longer induction runners (by a few inches) and has individual runners per port in the manifold.

Longer than that? The carbs must be outside the wings!

The carb position was about the same place, the runner length were only a few inches longer, and were from memory gained by a slighter more 'humped' shape, so bigger radius, as well as being individual runners.

Like this. The first car I have ever seen with this set up on. Awesome

Could well be.....looks like maybe individual runners on the inlet tract, but can't be certain from that angle, need a more overhead shot.

[aeropilot]

This is a long ram setup.

[SRT Hellcat]

aeropilot said:

This is a long ram setup.

Yes it is the same as this. Painted red and from the shot I took it is harder to see. Great looking carb setup

[aeropilot]

SRT Hellcat said:

aeropilot said:

This is a long ram setup.

Great looking carb setup

As long as you don't need to change the spark plugs in a hurry......

[aeropilot]

Motorama said:

aeropilot said:

There were two versions of the cross-ram induction, the short ram and the long ram.
The one fitted to Motorama's car is the short ram, which also has part siamesed runners. The long-ram manifold has slightly longer induction runners (by a few inches) and has individual runners per port in the manifold.

It can be confusing all the different types, but aparently according to Al Wilson who built it this is a 'short' Long Ram, im not up on the mechanical specs completely as im normally a GM man.

Yes, as I said, its a short ram.
Interesting he called it a short long ram, as I've never seen that term being used by Mopar guys before. Its either a short cross ram or a long cross ram, even though there is only a slight difference in actual runner length (a couple of inches)
The main difference is the siamese runners from the carb end on the short ram, whereas the long ram has individual runners all the way from carb to ports.
This is why the two types are easy to spot visually, as the individual runners are clearly visible on the long ram manifold.
If you look at the short ram manifold on yours within the yellow circles you can seen the squared off siamese runners for almost half the runners here....



Compare to the long ram manifold, where you can clearly see the individual runners in the casting in the same areas here.....



The short ram manifold performs much better at high rpm, which is why its usually the preferred option on an engine that is used for racing, and the long ram manifold is more often seen on a street engine, as it works better at lower rpm on a street engine.

[roscobbc]

An interesting move from Mopar in the day - seemed (perhaps against convention) to work well enough. I'd like to see a direct comparison o HP and TQ figures against dual quads and perhaps high rise 'ram' dual quads. I think fitted with modern aftermarket MPI itwould be 'interesting'.

[aeropilot]

roscobbc said:

An interesting move from Mopar in the day - seemed (perhaps against convention) to work well enough.

Not quite well enough for racing purposes, as they only lasted 2 years on the few production cars they were fitted to, before being replaced by the within the vee 2 x 4bbl cross ram manifolds as fitted to the Max Wedge 413 and 426 Superstock engines, which worked much better on drag strips, and at higher rpm ranges.

[aeropilot]

Motorama said:

Yes im aware of the differences visually and internally and technically its a Short Ram, nice little yellow circles though LOL, its a cool set up regardless, you wont see many over here like it, it makes a ton of torque in this application and doesnt need high revs to hit peak power,

Yup, very rare over here.....I can actually only remember ever seeing one such cross ram in the flesh here.....on a lovely Chrysler 300 way back when ROG was still at Knebworth.....and I know I was there with my mate Dave, who has been living in California since 2002......!!
So it was likely back in the 90's at least.
They are easily the wildest looking factory induction setup ever fitted on a production car....

Chrysler did go one better though, when the Ramchargers experimental team created a few 16bbl cross ram manifolds, which mounted 4 x 4 bbl carbs.....!!!!

[SRT Hellcat]

the pic I posted was from a mates 1960 Chrysler 300F convertible. A black car and absolutely mint

[AndySheff]

Motorama said:

My 47 and 54 Caddys, bought the red 47 last year then the black 54 Eldorado came along shortly after which was basically the car ive always wanted and i couldnt pass it up, used the 47 more last year as the 54 needed a lot of recommissioning from sitting 12 years but did get out in it towards the end of the season a couple of times, still a few bits to do. Both good solid cars, the 47 needs a bit of cosmetic tidying but is a lovely old thing, the 54 is pretty sharp, not perfect but as nice as you want a car and still be able to use it. 47 will be sold soon

Edited by Motorama on Saturday 15th January 09:55

Lovely motors.
This isn't mine - it's the MIL's 58.
45,000 miles !

[Baggie austin]

Got the SRT8 as a stable mate for the Dodge SRT-10 now

[steviejasp]

2006 Corvette ZO6

[UTH]

steviejasp said:

2006 Corvette ZO6

Guess yours is my older brother

[Gtxxjon]

I would call a C-body Mopar a Tank lol...

This fine example is going to get a 426 hemi lol...



Or this one?

Edited by Gtxxjon on Friday 28th January 11:34

Edited by Gtxxjon on Friday 28th January 11:34

[aeropilot]

Gtxxjon said:

I would call a C-body Mopar a Tank lol...

This fine example is going to get a 426 hemi lol...



Or this one?

Edited by Gtxxjon on Friday 28th January 11:34

Edited by Gtxxjon on Friday 28th January 11:34

Top one looks like its taken at Brooklands, and the bottom one looks like its at a typically wet Wheels Days at Rushmoor Area

[Gtxxjon]

Correct both times Aero!

I had a 65 Fury too, it was a gift from my good friends wife when he passed away.
But it was 'too far gone' as it had been parked on his drive for 20+years, very sad for him and the Fury...

My mate in London town has a fine C-body with a 512ci engine for grocery getting lol...

The 'sun always shines' on TV and Brooklands...

[Gtxxjon]

My biggest claim to fame was driving a 1970 Dodge wagon every day to work in SW London lol.

[Gtxxjon]

My biggest regret was NOT painting her ORANGE!

[AndySheff]

Motorama said:

Nice, looks like a Swedish plate, i recently sold my 58 Coupe to a friend of a friend, was a nice car, similar miles to your MIL one, 58 Coupe is one of my favourite models

Yep, it's in Sweden. That looks like a beaut !