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rat rod said:
Now this ones more like it !!! a matching numbers 71 C3 ,says in the ad Brands Hatch green with a lovely green interior , Manual box,
Reminded me of the green one i had , 41,000 miles , looks a real proper honest car , at £32K makes the green C3 convertible listed a couple of days
iago look expensive at £44K. sorry can't link but the ref no is C1561857.
Here you goReminded me of the green one i had , 41,000 miles , looks a real proper honest car , at £32K makes the green C3 convertible listed a couple of days
iago look expensive at £44K. sorry can't link but the ref no is C1561857.
LeighW said:
rat rod said:
Now this ones more like it !!! a matching numbers 71 C3 ,says in the ad Brands Hatch green with a lovely green interior , Manual box,
Reminded me of the green one i had , 41,000 miles , looks a real proper honest car , at £32K makes the green C3 convertible listed a couple of days
iago look expensive at £44K. sorry can't link but the ref no is C1561857.
Here you goReminded me of the green one i had , 41,000 miles , looks a real proper honest car , at £32K makes the green C3 convertible listed a couple of days
iago look expensive at £44K. sorry can't link but the ref no is C1561857.
[quote= rat rod]
You have a fantastic imagination ,need to with that background ,it looks as far away from California as possible what
with the dirty old graval yard and muddy puddles, does nothing to enhance the car.
The sellers not even bothered to wash the dirt off the Firebird let alone find a more exciting backdrop ,
Don't know if it's laziness or the seller hasen't got a clue.
Got to try a lot harder to extract thirty big ones for a none genuine 400.
So true on all counts, absolutely typical of the chancer selling a turd mentally,
The amount of utter dogs on offer is staggering,
Shiny paint means nowt!
By the current level my old RT is worth 50k
You would need sectioning to even for considering it
If I had any money, which I don’t , but if I did there about 5 cars in the whole country worth travelling to view,
Like GTX said we used these when they were fairly new so they actually drives pretty well,
Most of the Sh— on eBay and such will drive like Trabant
And above 60 mph you will be over taken by an old lady in a Nissan Leaf!!
This is reality not some California dream, lol
You have a fantastic imagination ,need to with that background ,it looks as far away from California as possible what
with the dirty old graval yard and muddy puddles, does nothing to enhance the car.
The sellers not even bothered to wash the dirt off the Firebird let alone find a more exciting backdrop ,
Don't know if it's laziness or the seller hasen't got a clue.
Got to try a lot harder to extract thirty big ones for a none genuine 400.
So true on all counts, absolutely typical of the chancer selling a turd mentally,
The amount of utter dogs on offer is staggering,
Shiny paint means nowt!
By the current level my old RT is worth 50k
You would need sectioning to even for considering it
If I had any money, which I don’t , but if I did there about 5 cars in the whole country worth travelling to view,
Like GTX said we used these when they were fairly new so they actually drives pretty well,
Most of the Sh— on eBay and such will drive like Trabant
And above 60 mph you will be over taken by an old lady in a Nissan Leaf!!
This is reality not some California dream, lol
LeighW said:
rat rod said:
Now this ones more like it !!! a matching numbers 71 C3 ,says in the ad Brands Hatch green with a lovely green interior , Manual box,
Reminded me of the green one i had , 41,000 miles , looks a real proper honest car , at £32K makes the green C3 convertible listed a couple of days
iago look expensive at £44K. sorry can't link but the ref no is C1561857.
Here you goReminded me of the green one i had , 41,000 miles , looks a real proper honest car , at £32K makes the green C3 convertible listed a couple of days
iago look expensive at £44K. sorry can't link but the ref no is C1561857.
Another idiot seller though that clearly knows naff all about the car, with this gem of a description....
born in Cincinnati holding a 5. 8L turbo fibre 350 v8
rat rod said:
aeropilot said:
Nice looking car.
Another idiot seller though that clearly knows naff all about the car, with this gem of a description....
born in Cincinnati holding a 5. 8L turbo fibre 350 v8
Did wonder about that quote myself not being a Vette expert ,Another idiot seller though that clearly knows naff all about the car, with this gem of a description....
born in Cincinnati holding a 5. 8L turbo fibre 350 v8
The common link with both of these Vettes (and perhaps others for sale recently) is that they appear to be unknown to us in the 1000 member CCCUK.
We have in exess of 70 members in the Essex region, theres another breakaway group in SE Essex with 30 members (some belong to both groups).........the point I am getting to is that not all people want to belong to a club admittedly but with so many of these cars coming up for sale that are unknown to us it just makes me think that there are still many people who perhaps don't know what they are really still doing still trying to make a buck or two importing from the 'States......pehaps dubious cars at elevated prices?
roscobbc said:
rat rod said:
aeropilot said:
Nice looking car.
Another idiot seller though that clearly knows naff all about the car, with this gem of a description....
born in Cincinnati holding a 5. 8L turbo fibre 350 v8
Did wonder about that quote myself not being a Vette expert ,Another idiot seller though that clearly knows naff all about the car, with this gem of a description....
born in Cincinnati holding a 5. 8L turbo fibre 350 v8
The common link with both of these Vettes (and perhaps others for sale recently) is that they appear to be unknown to us in the 1000 member CCCUK.
We have in exess of 70 members in the Essex region, theres another breakaway group in SE Essex with 30 members (some belong to both groups).........the point I am getting to is that not all people want to belong to a club admittedly but with so many of these cars coming up for sale that are unknown to us it just makes me think that there are still many people who perhaps don't know what they are really still doing still trying to make a buck or two importing from the 'States......pehaps dubious cars at elevated prices?
I hope that makes sense!
Like rat rod, I still look at the asking prices and automatically compare them with non yank stuff, I'll look at a given price and think ''how many Mk1 Mini Coopers does that equate too?'', I know it's comparing apples with oranges but I'm a bit stuck in that mind set. Perhaps I should try and shake it off
This '74 C3 ,vert is at Shiltech where my Maser is currently residing, I'm going up there next week so will have a gander at it while I'm there, might as well...
https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1485515
roscobbc said:
.......but he is a dealer with a good reputation....
Depends on who you talk to roscobbc said:
The common link with both of these Vettes (and perhaps others for sale recently) is that they appear to be unknown to us in the 1000 member CCCUK.
We have in exess of 70 members in the Essex region, theres another breakaway group in SE Essex with 30 members (some belong to both groups).........the point I am getting to is that not all people want to belong to a club admittedly but with so many of these cars coming up for sale that are unknown to us it just makes me think that there are still many people who perhaps don't know what they are really still doing still trying to make a buck or two importing from the 'States......pehaps dubious cars at elevated prices?
The poorly worded adverts to me say its chancer seller's that really don't know anything about the cars they are trying to sell, other than hopefully snagging a buyer who has the money, and really doesn't know what they are buying.We have in exess of 70 members in the Essex region, theres another breakaway group in SE Essex with 30 members (some belong to both groups).........the point I am getting to is that not all people want to belong to a club admittedly but with so many of these cars coming up for sale that are unknown to us it just makes me think that there are still many people who perhaps don't know what they are really still doing still trying to make a buck or two importing from the 'States......pehaps dubious cars at elevated prices?
I suppose that's been the used car salesman modus operandi for the past 60 years or more though
aeropilot said:
The poorly worded adverts to me say its chancer seller's that really don't know anything about the cars they are trying to sell, other than hopefully snagging a buyer who has the money, and really doesn't know what they are buying.
I suppose that's been the used car salesman modus operandi for the past 60 years or more though
When was the last time you dealt with a car dealer that knew that much about the cars they were selling though? You can level that comment at 99% of car dealers, from main agents, to car supermarkets, to classic car dealers. The vast majority have the same motivation and priorities as nearly everyone in business - profit. I suppose that's been the used car salesman modus operandi for the past 60 years or more though
P5BNij said:
Even as someone who's still learning about yank stuff I'd go along with that, and it's worth adding that the pool of potential buyers must be quite small compared with other non yank classics for sale in the UK. On top of that, PH isn't really representative of every enthusiast in the country and our little corner of it is even smaller and quite niche, so the knowledge 'out there' probably isn't necessarily that vast.
I hope that makes sense!
Like rat rod, I still look at the asking prices and automatically compare them with non yank stuff, I'll look at a given price and think ''how many Mk1 Mini Coopers does that equate too?'', I know it's comparing apples with oranges but I'm a bit stuck in that mind set. Perhaps I should try and shake it off
This '74 C3 ,vert is at Shiltech where my Maser is currently residing, I'm going up there next week so will have a gander at it while I'm there, might as well...
https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1485515
The '74 Vette is interesting with that mileage. First year for energy absorbing rear (split bumper - all later years were one piece) second year for the energy absorbing front bumper and last year of big block (ok this is a small block) - nice that it has a hardtop with it. The OEM front and rear bumpers have a reputation of not standing up to age (and probably climatic conditions) too well. The surface sinks and ends up looking lumpy. Most people replace them with aftermarket glass fibre replacements which hold their shape well.......although will not 'bounce-off' low speed impacts.......tbh even with the OEM bumpers the paint will crack.......and they do need a suitable paint, given their flexibility. The ones on this car could be original given that there are some marks......the car is bang-on the low compression emission years but eminently tubeable........I'd be tempted if everything else was comensurate with the mileage......I hope that makes sense!
Like rat rod, I still look at the asking prices and automatically compare them with non yank stuff, I'll look at a given price and think ''how many Mk1 Mini Coopers does that equate too?'', I know it's comparing apples with oranges but I'm a bit stuck in that mind set. Perhaps I should try and shake it off
This '74 C3 ,vert is at Shiltech where my Maser is currently residing, I'm going up there next week so will have a gander at it while I'm there, might as well...
https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1485515
LeighW said:
aeropilot said:
The poorly worded adverts to me say its chancer seller's that really don't know anything about the cars they are trying to sell, other than hopefully snagging a buyer who has the money, and really doesn't know what they are buying.
I suppose that's been the used car salesman modus operandi for the past 60 years or more though
When was the last time you dealt with a car dealer that knew that much about the cars they were selling though? You can level that comment at 99% of car dealers, from main agents, to car supermarkets, to classic car dealers. The vast majority have the same motivation and priorities as nearly everyone in business - profit. I suppose that's been the used car salesman modus operandi for the past 60 years or more though
But for some unfathomable reason punters feel safer buying from a dealer,
Some obviously are sound and knowledgeable
But surely if your selling you should at the very least
Know what it is your selling!
Lol
The mind boggles but as I’m virtually the only one on here apart from GTX Jonny that’s spent a life time
Working/restoring/welding/welding/welding,
These things I guess I see them completely different to you guys,
Tons of gob dust , piles of rusted shale all over the work shop floor,
This is the reality of my world as a ex restorer
As for comparing prices what’s the point??
They are worth what someone is prepared to pay,
Our dilemma is, is it worth that to me??
Classic cars are the same as anything that’s collected and collectible ,
They are not regional like houses ,
One can’t buy them cheaper in Wales lol
aeropilot said:
roscobbc said:
.......but he is a dealer with a good reputation....
[quote]Depends on who you talk to roscobbc said:
aeropilot said:
roscobbc said:
.......but he is a dealer with a good reputation....
[quote]Depends on who you talk to Traders are not charities.
newsatten said:
Also true I fear,
But for some unfathomable reason punters feel safer buying from a dealer,
Some obviously are sound and knowledgeable
But surely if your selling you should at the very least
Know what it is your selling!
Lol
The mind boggles but as I’m virtually the only one on here apart from GTX Jonny that’s spent a life time
Working/restoring/welding/welding/welding,
These things I guess I see them completely different to you guys,
Tons of gob dust , piles of rusted shale all over the work shop floor,
This is the reality of my world as a ex restorer
As for comparing prices what’s the point??
They are worth what someone is prepared to pay,
Our dilemma is, is it worth that to me??
Classic cars are the same as anything that’s collected and collectible ,
They are not regional like houses ,
One can’t buy them cheaper in Wales lol
I think the other thing where you'll see them differently is the cost. You were lucky in that you could enjoy these cars when they were cheap. They were never affordable to me, when they were cheaper I had no spare cash, but now I'm older and I do (or did But for some unfathomable reason punters feel safer buying from a dealer,
Some obviously are sound and knowledgeable
But surely if your selling you should at the very least
Know what it is your selling!
Lol
The mind boggles but as I’m virtually the only one on here apart from GTX Jonny that’s spent a life time
Working/restoring/welding/welding/welding,
These things I guess I see them completely different to you guys,
Tons of gob dust , piles of rusted shale all over the work shop floor,
This is the reality of my world as a ex restorer
As for comparing prices what’s the point??
They are worth what someone is prepared to pay,
Our dilemma is, is it worth that to me??
Classic cars are the same as anything that’s collected and collectible ,
They are not regional like houses ,
One can’t buy them cheaper in Wales lol
), they're expensive. To you fellas these 60s yanks are cars you owned and drove, to me they were on a poster, in a mag, at a show. So I'm more willing to accept a car that's not numbers matching, has the wrong wheels, a slush box etc than others might be. Enough of my waffle, here's another 69 Camaro SS. I'm not a fan of the Carlos Fandango wheels, but each to their own...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/165985006001?mkevt=1&am...
aeropilot said:
roscobbc said:
.......but he is a dealer with a good reputation....
Depends on who you talk to I didn’t really like the guy when I met him, he made a bid on my Plymouth then when I went to take it up he backed away from it. Then when enquiring about the stock he had there was no leeway or room for discussion. Ruthless is the word that comes to mind.
Edited by urquattroGus on Friday 17th March 17:40
LeighW said:
I think the other thing where you'll see them differently is the cost. You were lucky in that you could enjoy these cars when they were cheap. They were never affordable to me, when they were cheaper I had no spare cash, but now I'm older and I do (or did ), they're expensive. To you fellas these 60s yanks are cars you owned and drove, to me they were on a poster, in a mag, at a show. So I'm more willing to accept a car that's not numbers matching, has the wrong wheels, a slush box etc than others might be.
Enough of my waffle, here's another 69 Camaro SS. I'm not a fan of the Carlos Fandango wheels, but each to their own...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/165985006001?mkevt=1&am...
Yes your probably right , ), they're expensive. To you fellas these 60s yanks are cars you owned and drove, to me they were on a poster, in a mag, at a show. So I'm more willing to accept a car that's not numbers matching, has the wrong wheels, a slush box etc than others might be. Enough of my waffle, here's another 69 Camaro SS. I'm not a fan of the Carlos Fandango wheels, but each to their own...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/165985006001?mkevt=1&am...
And I was well aware that once my Dodge had gone I was out,
But I’ve enjoyed playing with them over the years , and up to quite recently most were owned by fairly ordinary folk
But times change, and there’s a new breed,
I’m enjoying the old car scene more than ever now our B’
Has been a revelation in user ease, fuel economy and just plane old fun,
Best thing I’ve brought in bloody years
P5BNij said:
Even as someone who's still learning about yank stuff I'd go along with that, and it's worth adding that the pool of potential buyers must be quite small compared with other non yank classics for sale in the UK. On top of that, PH isn't really representative of every enthusiast in the country and our little corner of it is even smaller and quite niche, so the knowledge 'out there' probably isn't necessarily that vast.
I hope that makes sense!
Like rat rod, I still look at the asking prices and automatically compare them with non yank stuff, I'll look at a given price and think ''how many Mk1 Mini Coopers does that equate too?'', I know it's comparing apples with oranges but I'm a bit stuck in that mind set. Perhaps I should try and shake it off
This '74 C3 ,vert is at Shiltech where my Maser is currently residing, I'm going up there next week so will have a gander at it while I'm there, might as well...
https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1485515
Before agreeing to buy my 430 from Maranello's i drove up to Graypaul in Nottingham to see a similar car and called in to Shiltech I hope that makes sense!
Like rat rod, I still look at the asking prices and automatically compare them with non yank stuff, I'll look at a given price and think ''how many Mk1 Mini Coopers does that equate too?'', I know it's comparing apples with oranges but I'm a bit stuck in that mind set. Perhaps I should try and shake it off
This '74 C3 ,vert is at Shiltech where my Maser is currently residing, I'm going up there next week so will have a gander at it while I'm there, might as well...
https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1485515
while i was in the area as they had a racing 308 GTS there i wanted to see but it was to complex for me , needed a computer to fix it
opposed to a spanner and screwdriver .Nice friendly people though .Very unusual to see them selling a yank , good value if as clean
as it looks in the photo's,
Well it's worth a shuftie even though I don't really want a soft top (the Vette at Shiltech). They've got a nice early 911 in as well
Meanwhile, some Superformance GT40 goodness to be going on with...
And Kidderminster based Tornado Sportscar's version, I've had a good look at some of theirs and the quality is excellent...
Just seen that Biscayne, looks like a barrel of fun
Meanwhile, some Superformance GT40 goodness to be going on with...
And Kidderminster based Tornado Sportscar's version, I've had a good look at some of theirs and the quality is excellent...
Just seen that Biscayne, looks like a barrel of fun
Edited by P5BNij on Friday 17th March 19:46
Edited by P5BNij on Friday 17th March 19:47
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