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[quote= rat rod]
Would you accept £92k ,final offer
ye i forgot about those bumpers just reminds me how wright the bullnose T/A was ,
There was a 74 T/A 455 sold on Ebay , winning bid £13k and it was a manual .
It was E bay so may not have sold in reality.
With that Challenger advertised maybe a good time for a ad at a price you could replace it with a 70/73 T/A,at least yours is in a proper Mopor colour.
Thanks, but 24hrs have passed so my Challenger is 98K ....................................................................
Yeah i was watching the 74 car, did think of viewing for about 20 seconds, just to far to travel , it wouldn't have bothered me a few years ago but now, the cost of fuel, traffic jams, to many cars on the road, i just cant be arsed, 200 mile round trip is absolute tops for me now,
15k was about were id placed it, the seller probably looking for 20......................
The hospital contacted me yesterday, seems im penciled in for the beginning of November, but this is subject to change, depending on how the plague pans out!
With all this crap going on im quite happy just to sit tight, i could be out of action for several months, plus my income will be almost zero,
But looking's cheap
i'l never have the funds to fiance a proper 70-71 TA, and we are all amazed and surprised at the stupid prices being asked for these type of cars, and as you pointed out for years weve just got used to the fact they were good fun and cheap, but maybe now their day has come,
no one bats an eye at a 100k tag on a E' which ironically was priced about the same in the US Hemi/440 cars, TA's were all sub $4000
as was the E'
Restoration costs are about the same, so a fully restored TA @ £60,000 or a 68' 390 GT @ 70,000 are staring to look like a deal!
Would you accept £92k ,final offer
ye i forgot about those bumpers just reminds me how wright the bullnose T/A was ,
There was a 74 T/A 455 sold on Ebay , winning bid £13k and it was a manual .
It was E bay so may not have sold in reality.
With that Challenger advertised maybe a good time for a ad at a price you could replace it with a 70/73 T/A,at least yours is in a proper Mopor colour.
Thanks, but 24hrs have passed so my Challenger is 98K ....................................................................
Yeah i was watching the 74 car, did think of viewing for about 20 seconds, just to far to travel , it wouldn't have bothered me a few years ago but now, the cost of fuel, traffic jams, to many cars on the road, i just cant be arsed, 200 mile round trip is absolute tops for me now,
15k was about were id placed it, the seller probably looking for 20......................
The hospital contacted me yesterday, seems im penciled in for the beginning of November, but this is subject to change, depending on how the plague pans out!
With all this crap going on im quite happy just to sit tight, i could be out of action for several months, plus my income will be almost zero,
But looking's cheap
i'l never have the funds to fiance a proper 70-71 TA, and we are all amazed and surprised at the stupid prices being asked for these type of cars, and as you pointed out for years weve just got used to the fact they were good fun and cheap, but maybe now their day has come,
no one bats an eye at a 100k tag on a E' which ironically was priced about the same in the US Hemi/440 cars, TA's were all sub $4000
as was the E'
Restoration costs are about the same, so a fully restored TA @ £60,000 or a 68' 390 GT @ 70,000 are staring to look like a deal!
[quote=newsatten]rat rod]
Would you accept £92k ,final offer
ye i forgot about those bumpers just reminds me how wright the bullnose T/A was ,
There was a 74 T/A 455 sold on Ebay , winning bid £13k and it was a manual .
It was E bay so may not have sold in reality.
With that Challenger advertised maybe a good time for a ad at a price you could replace it with a 70/73 T/A,at least yours is in a proper Mopor colour.
Thanks, but 24hrs have passed so my Challenger is 98K ....................................................................
Yeah i was watching the 74 car, did think of viewing for about 20 seconds, just to far to travel , it wouldn't have bothered me a few years ago but now, the cost of fuel, traffic jams, to many cars on the road, i just cant be arsed, 200 mile round trip is absolute tops for me now,
15k was about were id placed it, the seller probably looking for 20......................
The hospital contacted me yesterday, seems im penciled in for the beginning of November, but this is subject to change, depending on how the plague pans out!
With all this crap going on im quite happy just to sit tight, i could be out of action for several months, plus my income will be almost zero,
But looking's cheap
i'l never have the funds to fiance a proper 70-71 TA, and we are all amazed and surprised at the stupid prices being asked for these type of cars, and as you pointed out for years weve just got used to the fact they were good fun and cheap, but maybe now their day has come,
no one bats an eye at a 100k tag on a E' which ironically was priced about the same in the US Hemi/440 cars, TA's were all sub $4000
as was the E'
Restoration costs are about the same, so a fully restored TA @ £60,000 or a 68' 390 GT @ 70,000 are staring to look like a deal!
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Better pay you £98k,It will be wrong side of £100 tomorrow.
If £60k for a bull nose T/A i will leave it out, as much as i would like another one there's other cars i would rather put that sort of money in.
Maybe something on my wish list that has evaded me.
The funny thing is £100k should buy a really nice E Type but not a perfect one,if asking prices are real another £100k for a nut and bolt car but have you seen how many are for sale ,compared to the small number of Challenger 's and even less Cuda's so looking at it maybe they do deserve their price tag.
Your hospital surprised me,thought it would be much longer wait,i suppose it could go tit's up if the virus hits us hard in the next few months.
Good luck with it ,hope it's not to serious and you can get back to some normality quickly,I'm sure your wife will fuss over you,you will just have to milk it as long as possible.
You pointing out the price of a Mustang 390 gt a £60/£70 and we are beginning to live with that so the T/A should command a similar figure, it's rarer,drives and handle's better and i think looks more Muscle .Trouble is to the English the Mustang is a recognise icon where most Pontiac is mostly a unknown quantity.
In my younger days i'd be sitting outside someones house in Leeds,Newcastle and even Scotland at 8 o'clock in the morning waiting for them to wake up to show me a car that 's advertised, in winter or summer but it would have to be something either special or to cheap to leave.
Now Birmingham is far enough ,about 2 hours ,even then would need a day on the beach to catch up.
Would you accept £92k ,final offer
ye i forgot about those bumpers just reminds me how wright the bullnose T/A was ,
There was a 74 T/A 455 sold on Ebay , winning bid £13k and it was a manual .
It was E bay so may not have sold in reality.
With that Challenger advertised maybe a good time for a ad at a price you could replace it with a 70/73 T/A,at least yours is in a proper Mopor colour.
Thanks, but 24hrs have passed so my Challenger is 98K ....................................................................
Yeah i was watching the 74 car, did think of viewing for about 20 seconds, just to far to travel , it wouldn't have bothered me a few years ago but now, the cost of fuel, traffic jams, to many cars on the road, i just cant be arsed, 200 mile round trip is absolute tops for me now,
15k was about were id placed it, the seller probably looking for 20......................
The hospital contacted me yesterday, seems im penciled in for the beginning of November, but this is subject to change, depending on how the plague pans out!
With all this crap going on im quite happy just to sit tight, i could be out of action for several months, plus my income will be almost zero,
But looking's cheap
i'l never have the funds to fiance a proper 70-71 TA, and we are all amazed and surprised at the stupid prices being asked for these type of cars, and as you pointed out for years weve just got used to the fact they were good fun and cheap, but maybe now their day has come,
no one bats an eye at a 100k tag on a E' which ironically was priced about the same in the US Hemi/440 cars, TA's were all sub $4000
as was the E'
Restoration costs are about the same, so a fully restored TA @ £60,000 or a 68' 390 GT @ 70,000 are staring to look like a deal!
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Better pay you £98k,It will be wrong side of £100 tomorrow.
If £60k for a bull nose T/A i will leave it out, as much as i would like another one there's other cars i would rather put that sort of money in.
Maybe something on my wish list that has evaded me.
The funny thing is £100k should buy a really nice E Type but not a perfect one,if asking prices are real another £100k for a nut and bolt car but have you seen how many are for sale ,compared to the small number of Challenger 's and even less Cuda's so looking at it maybe they do deserve their price tag.
Your hospital surprised me,thought it would be much longer wait,i suppose it could go tit's up if the virus hits us hard in the next few months.
Good luck with it ,hope it's not to serious and you can get back to some normality quickly,I'm sure your wife will fuss over you,you will just have to milk it as long as possible.
You pointing out the price of a Mustang 390 gt a £60/£70 and we are beginning to live with that so the T/A should command a similar figure, it's rarer,drives and handle's better and i think looks more Muscle .Trouble is to the English the Mustang is a recognise icon where most Pontiac is mostly a unknown quantity.
In my younger days i'd be sitting outside someones house in Leeds,Newcastle and even Scotland at 8 o'clock in the morning waiting for them to wake up to show me a car that 's advertised, in winter or summer but it would have to be something either special or to cheap to leave.
Now Birmingham is far enough ,about 2 hours ,even then would need a day on the beach to catch up.
Edited by rat rod on Thursday 17th September 01:11
Blimey Challengers are coming out of hiding, another car on EBay today, not far from me in Rochester , no details, 440, 70 car 40K start price,
Anyway back on earth , and due to the really slow take up with the school bus scheme, 3 workshop staff and a few drivers back on furlough from Monday,
Things must be grim as ive been asked to do a bit of a list of stuff wev'e got lying around, 2 Complete V12's one carbed, one injected,
3.4, 3.8 and a 4.2 Six pot motors, loads of other jag stuff,
My boss asked me if id be interested in his 2+2 Elan, which he's owned since 73' !
completely in bits, as it had a new chassis 10 years ago and never got put back together, i would not have a scooby what its worth ????
the Twin Cam and box is sitting under my work bench, and the rolling shell is full with E and XJS stuff!
Plus he wants me back on his Ser3 Coupe, which is a problem as im supposed to be doing the MOT/service managers Ford
All this has come about since i told them about my knee op being much quicker than i was told last week!
Ive been lumbered with loads to do but theve still kept me on part time hours of 120 per month, its just like Dads Army !
Anyway back on earth , and due to the really slow take up with the school bus scheme, 3 workshop staff and a few drivers back on furlough from Monday,
Things must be grim as ive been asked to do a bit of a list of stuff wev'e got lying around, 2 Complete V12's one carbed, one injected,
3.4, 3.8 and a 4.2 Six pot motors, loads of other jag stuff,
My boss asked me if id be interested in his 2+2 Elan, which he's owned since 73' !
completely in bits, as it had a new chassis 10 years ago and never got put back together, i would not have a scooby what its worth ????
the Twin Cam and box is sitting under my work bench, and the rolling shell is full with E and XJS stuff!
Plus he wants me back on his Ser3 Coupe, which is a problem as im supposed to be doing the MOT/service managers Ford
All this has come about since i told them about my knee op being much quicker than i was told last week!
Ive been lumbered with loads to do but theve still kept me on part time hours of 120 per month, its just like Dads Army !
newsatten said:
Blimey Challengers are coming out of hiding, another car on EBay today, not far from me in Rochester , no details, 440, 70 car 40K start price,
Anyway back on earth , and due to the really slow take up with the school bus scheme, 3 workshop staff and a few drivers back on furlough from Monday,
Things must be grim as ive been asked to do a bit of a list of stuff wev'e got lying around, 2 Complete V12's one carbed, one injected,
3.4, 3.8 and a 4.2 Six pot motors, loads of other jag stuff,
My boss asked me if id be interested in his 2+2 Elan, which he's owned since 73' !
completely in bits, as it had a new chassis 10 years ago and never got put back together, i would not have a scooby what its worth ????
the Twin Cam and box is sitting under my work bench, and the rolling shell is full with E and XJS stuff!
Plus he wants me back on his Ser3 Coupe, which is a problem as im supposed to be doing the MOT/service managers Ford
All this has come about since i told them about my knee op being much quicker than i was told last week!
Ive been lumbered with loads to do but theve still kept me on part time hours of 120 per month, its just like Dads Army !
Sounds like you are going to be busy on your boss's projects, he will have to give you full time hours at this rate.Anyway back on earth , and due to the really slow take up with the school bus scheme, 3 workshop staff and a few drivers back on furlough from Monday,
Things must be grim as ive been asked to do a bit of a list of stuff wev'e got lying around, 2 Complete V12's one carbed, one injected,
3.4, 3.8 and a 4.2 Six pot motors, loads of other jag stuff,
My boss asked me if id be interested in his 2+2 Elan, which he's owned since 73' !
completely in bits, as it had a new chassis 10 years ago and never got put back together, i would not have a scooby what its worth ????
the Twin Cam and box is sitting under my work bench, and the rolling shell is full with E and XJS stuff!
Plus he wants me back on his Ser3 Coupe, which is a problem as im supposed to be doing the MOT/service managers Ford
All this has come about since i told them about my knee op being much quicker than i was told last week!
Ive been lumbered with loads to do but theve still kept me on part time hours of 120 per month, its just like Dads Army !
Lucky you have almost finished the Challenger.
Havn't seen the Challenger that you mentioned starting at £40k but there is another one ,looks like a 73/74 440 ,needs work but says it runs well, got a horrid interior, buy it now for £17,995 ,
I think the guy selling it use to trade as "Muscle car Technologies" in Birmingham.
Those +2 Elan's seemed to be the under dog compared to the pretty 2 seater Elan, I don't think it's a bad looking car considering most +2's are a compromise, sounds like it needs a lot of work ,maybe a good project for you instead of a yank , but probably take to long if you wanted a quick turnover.
Not sure what there worth now ,£15k for a excellent. one maybe or £10k for a driving car, just a guess .
I had a couple of them way back ,paid around £850 from memory,also had a 2 seater Sprint but after a couple of very near miss's i had to block it in to stop me using it, I was a accident waiting to happen,Like a Caterham 7 it was impossible to drive slowly ,edged you on the whole time.
Your boss seems to have accumulated a few valuable spares, The 3.4 and 3.8 engines are hard to find and replica C and D type builders now having to use 4.2 engines.
I had a ally bodied Proteus C type replica with a period 3.4 engine and a Ram long nose D type replica with a Ron Beattie 4.5 stroker fitted on triple Webbers ,Along with the induction roar and the bark from the exhaust sounded like nothing else when it came on cam.
In vintage fashion you sat almost on the C type instead of in and the D type encapsulated you ,especially with that head rest,hard to believe they were only a year apart.
Great cars to leave reality behind you ,
Turns the A1 into the Mulsanne straight.
Sadly both cars now living in Germany.
Sorry to yap on about British cars on a American thread but when your feet are in both camps they kind of roll into one,and don't get me started on Italian beauties.
Edited by rat rod on Friday 18th September 07:44
Been for sale for ages. Unsurprisingly.
https://www.cmvautomotive.co.uk/used/cars/dodge
as much as I love a supercharger, I'd say that's easily £30,000-£40,000 overpriced.
https://www.cmvautomotive.co.uk/used/cars/dodge
as much as I love a supercharger, I'd say that's easily £30,000-£40,000 overpriced.
Rat Rod, you've been fortunate to own/drive and use some fabulous and to most dream cars, its nice to get interaction with someone who's actually used these things, !
You have sir a truly epic back catalogue ,
The 70' 440 is on E Bay but under Dodge Classics, looks to be a Vanishing Point replica, or should that be replicar
Anyway looks nice in the pics...............................................
The horrible black one, yeah ive light dealings with the guy awhile ago, if its the same fellow, he used to be on the MMA , Budgie i think,
had some pretty leary stuff back in the day.................................
But at least its priced at a realistic sum, and if reasonably solid its a base to build on,
I must admit i do quite like the idea of the Elan, its tiny, light weight , boat type body, these cars looked like they were trimmed at DFS !
so home trimming aint a prob,
The size thing is what im liking , i'l have a think and may make an offer, knowing my boss he probably thinks its worth 10K!
I'l nip down to work later and take a couple of pics, its does look a mess at the moment , looks like a candidate for Storage Hunters!
newsatten said:
Rat Rod, you've been fortunate to own/drive and use some fabulous and to most dream cars, its nice to get interaction with someone who's actually used these things, !
You have sir a truly epic back catalogue ,
The 70' 440 is on E Bay but under Dodge Classics, looks to be a Vanishing Point replica, or should that be replicar
Anyway looks nice in the pics...............................................
The horrible black one, yeah ive light dealings with the guy awhile ago, if its the same fellow, he used to be on the MMA , Budgie i think,
had some pretty leary stuff back in the day.................................
But at least its priced at a realistic sum, and if reasonably solid its a base to build on,
I must admit i do quite like the idea of the Elan, its tiny, light weight , boat type body, these cars looked like they were trimmed at DFS !
so home trimming aint a prob,
The size thing is what im liking , i'l have a think and may make an offer, knowing my boss he probably thinks its worth 10K!
I'l nip down to work later and take a couple of pics, its does look a mess at the moment , looks like a candidate for Storage Hunters!
That's the guy ,he ended up buying my sublime Challenger from the guy i sold it to, he did promise to give me first refusal if he wanted to sell it but living near Birmingham probably convenient to sell it to him.he's the one who bought my T/A
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The Lotus would make a change from the yanks but does look like you will have your work cut out,
Good idea asking the Lotus boys .the worst thing with such a major restoration is if you get to a point of no return both cost wise and time.
The good thing about buying a runner is at least you may get away with a rolling restoration and got a daily.
Big commitment but maybe worth while project .worse way you can turn it up side down and use it as a boat.
Edited by rat rod on Friday 18th September 20:24
Errr, yeah, hence my dealing were only light, nuff said,
youve a life long relationship with these types of cars, using them, working on them , buying and selling etc, and still at it!
bloody marvelous, long may it continue !
My repertoire is rubbish in comparison, but ive been fortunate to have been able to own and use a few half decent motors,
I nipped down to work today to snap the Lotus , rolled down in the Chally, our Snap-on guy was in, its the first time he's seen the car since i came out of the E restoration shop, he was totally blow away by it !
Could'nt really believe i'd done it in my tiny garage and on the drive way, and then went on to compare it the the Cherry Red E id just finished before i bailed!
Which was nice,
Done any more Regarding the TA??????
youve a life long relationship with these types of cars, using them, working on them , buying and selling etc, and still at it!
bloody marvelous, long may it continue !
My repertoire is rubbish in comparison, but ive been fortunate to have been able to own and use a few half decent motors,
I nipped down to work today to snap the Lotus , rolled down in the Chally, our Snap-on guy was in, its the first time he's seen the car since i came out of the E restoration shop, he was totally blow away by it !
Could'nt really believe i'd done it in my tiny garage and on the drive way, and then went on to compare it the the Cherry Red E id just finished before i bailed!
Which was nice,
Done any more Regarding the TA??????
newsatten said:
Errr, yeah, hence my dealing were only light, nuff said,
youve a life long relationship with these types of cars, using them, working on them , buying and selling etc, and still at it!
bloody marvelous, long may it continue !
My repertoire is rubbish in comparison, but ive been fortunate to have been able to own and use a few half decent motors,
I nipped down to work today to snap the Lotus , rolled down in the Chally, our Snap-on guy was in, its the first time he's seen the car since i came out of the E restoration shop, he was totally blow away by it !
Could'nt really believe i'd done it in my tiny garage and on the drive way, and then went on to compare it the the Cherry Red E id just finished before i bailed!
Which was nice,
Done any more Regarding the TA??????
Ye,think you are wright,i may have said to much in hindsight.youve a life long relationship with these types of cars, using them, working on them , buying and selling etc, and still at it!
bloody marvelous, long may it continue !
My repertoire is rubbish in comparison, but ive been fortunate to have been able to own and use a few half decent motors,
I nipped down to work today to snap the Lotus , rolled down in the Chally, our Snap-on guy was in, its the first time he's seen the car since i came out of the E restoration shop, he was totally blow away by it !
Could'nt really believe i'd done it in my tiny garage and on the drive way, and then went on to compare it the the Cherry Red E id just finished before i bailed!
Which was nice,
Done any more Regarding the TA??????
At least you've managed to keep them longer and enjoyed them more,
My fault but don't seem to get round to using them lately as they should,
Had a reminder that the annual service is due on one of the cars, have only covered 87 miles since last years service and that was the distance driving back and 12 miles covered for the M.O.T there and back.
Not proud of it as i'm always telling people to use their toys.
Only took it to the main dealers as there's to much electrics for me and a need to have a stamp in the service book to make it saleable for when the time comes.
Become more of a liability than anything else.
Been side tracked this week but will be back on track the weekend regarding the T/A
Also 2 57 T/birds have reared their heads this week and a 56 which is very local and really nice,half the money of the T/A ,makes you think.
Bruiser or cruiser ,both would be nice ,for what ever mood you are in..
Edited by rat rod on Friday 18th September 22:20
Dont think labour really comes into it, when your doing stuff for your self, i can estimate a resto of the top of my head, anything and i mean anything,
irrespective of its intrinsic value starts at 500 hrs, or 25K........................................
Theoretically it could obviously been got going again for much less, but then its still just a turd, but a turd that moves, whats the point?
No these things are a hobbie, so to me labour costs dont come into the equation ...............................
look on you tube ,most get done at home by nutters like me!
If however you pay a shop to do your work, around 50 quid an hour, then labours probably an issue, then something like the Elan just wouldn't be worth taking on, this apply's to any car really,
irrespective of its intrinsic value starts at 500 hrs, or 25K........................................
Theoretically it could obviously been got going again for much less, but then its still just a turd, but a turd that moves, whats the point?
No these things are a hobbie, so to me labour costs dont come into the equation ...............................
look on you tube ,most get done at home by nutters like me!
If however you pay a shop to do your work, around 50 quid an hour, then labours probably an issue, then something like the Elan just wouldn't be worth taking on, this apply's to any car really,
Been side tracked this week but will be back on track the weekend regarding the T/A
Also 2 57 T/birds have reared their heads this week and a 56 which is very local and really nice,half the money of the T/A ,makes you think.
Bruiser or cruiser ,both would be nice ,for what ever mood you are in.
Yeah saw the 57' looks a nice car, needs the rear skirts LOL.................................
And just about sensible price, it will maybe find a buyer, But would a TA find one at 60K?..................
Normal income guys like me are now out, and i just cant see Tweeds and the Gentry buying something like a TA?, Shelby wanna b's maybe
as they have old skool chrome etc,
And again with muscle cars, plenty of leary B Body's about, and even the 25K 440's aint selling,
The so called fully restored TA on car and classics, has been up for sale for bloody years, The one in Finland has been on offer for ever,
so its a European wide thing,
Seems to me that for a decent pool of potential buyers 30K is the magic number,
AdeTuono said:
Been for sale for ages. Unsurprisingly.
https://www.cmvautomotive.co.uk/used/cars/dodge
as much as I love a supercharger, I'd say that's easily £30,000-£40,000 overpriced.
Yes i agree stupid amount of money for what is a stupid and pretty useless motor, these things are a one trick pony, show only really,https://www.cmvautomotive.co.uk/used/cars/dodge
as much as I love a supercharger, I'd say that's easily £30,000-£40,000 overpriced.
and virtually impossible to live with,
The trouble is they cost an absolute fortune to build, in the states cars like this regularly sell at auctions at huge sums, here however
they are a bit naff, bin the chrome, bin the blower, wheels and DSF interior , and voila a straight triple black charger on steel's
Perfect,
It will still be 70K but you wont look a cock driving it
newsatten said:
Been side tracked this week but will be back on track the weekend regarding the T/A
Also 2 57 T/birds have reared their heads this week and a 56 which is very local and really nice,half the money of the T/A ,makes you think.
Bruiser or cruiser ,both would be nice ,for what ever mood you are in.
Yeah saw the 57' looks a nice car, needs the rear skirts LOL.................................
And just about sensible price, it will maybe find a buyer, But would a TA find one at 60K?..................
Normal income guys like me are now out, and i just cant see Tweeds and the Gentry buying something like a TA?, Shelby wanna b's maybe
as they have old skool chrome etc,
And again with muscle cars, plenty of leary B Body's about, and even the 25K 440's aint selling,
The so called fully restored TA on car and classics, has been up for sale for bloody years, The one in Finland has been on offer for ever,
so its a European wide thing,
Seems to me that for a decent pool of potential buyers 30K is the magic number,
Seems to be a glut of T/Birds, 2 red ones a 56 blue one,the one that you are referring to looks odd without the skirts but it says in the ad that they do have them,why there not on the car i don't know.Also 2 57 T/birds have reared their heads this week and a 56 which is very local and really nice,half the money of the T/A ,makes you think.
Bruiser or cruiser ,both would be nice ,for what ever mood you are in.
Yeah saw the 57' looks a nice car, needs the rear skirts LOL.................................
And just about sensible price, it will maybe find a buyer, But would a TA find one at 60K?..................
Normal income guys like me are now out, and i just cant see Tweeds and the Gentry buying something like a TA?, Shelby wanna b's maybe
as they have old skool chrome etc,
And again with muscle cars, plenty of leary B Body's about, and even the 25K 440's aint selling,
The so called fully restored TA on car and classics, has been up for sale for bloody years, The one in Finland has been on offer for ever,
so its a European wide thing,
Seems to me that for a decent pool of potential buyers 30K is the magic number,
Maybe they don't fit with the Kelsey Hayes wheels although have seen skirts with those wheels ,perhaps he prefers them without.
There's another red one on "The Market" looks mint ,for no reason at all i'm not keen on red but would make the exception for that one even with a very red interior, best period colours for me are white with red /white interior or turquoise blue might be peacock not sure ,quite like coral dusk pink just because it's period, had a 59 El Camino in that colour,woman seemed to love it,had more woman wanting their photo's taken with it than men.
Forget the T/Birds for now, did you see the crazy 61 Caddy in house of kolor kandy gold paint on air ride,stunning both outside and underneath,
Wow Imagine cruising down Sloane Street in that, out posing all those two a penny Lambo's,
Like to do that to a 59 but with prices now around £30/£35k then add the paint,air ride and wheels ect you will not get much change out of £50/£60k so making this one a bit of a bargain.
Same guy owns the T/bird, Caddy and a 58 Impala, must be having a change around . .
I noticed that T/A in Finland ,as you say it's been for sale a long time,
DD Classics in Kew recently had a T/A for around the £60 mark ,think it might be sold but with the other stock around it at a million plus makes it look a bargain.
Don't live that far from Goodwood and spend a lot of time there just seeing what track days are going on weekdays and Saturdays , well i use to till this year anyway and you are so wright about the tweeds not really being into yanks like the T/A's.
If i turned up in a Mustang,Falcon or 63/64 Galaxie i'd get instant recognition and they would come over for a chat but any other yank they seem to totally ignore it apart from my flathead 32 roadster which seemed to intrigue them especially as Lord March now has a rat A pick up.
Personally i think a lot of them are closet yank ,hot rod lovers but until Charlie boy started to buy them it's given some of them the green light
and worry less what their tween friends will say.
I experienced this first hand when i took my 3 window to a V.S.C,C sprint meeting at Goodwood and parked it in the pits like i always do in a line of vintage cars ,before i had chance to get out i had Captain Mainwarings double marching up to me with his clip board at hand,
He told ,not asked me to remove my car not just from the line up but from the pits area as it will offend his members .I told him it was a genuine 32 Ford not a replica but he was having none of it. no bonnet or fenders and lack of paint probably didn't help .
I did eventually started to drive it away but got stopped by a his second in command who said" i thought we told you to go" with that a young girl marshal overheard this and came up in my defence and gave him a piece of her mind for being so rude and arrogant and shouldn't talk to anyone like that( would have married her if i'd been 40 years younger), so that put him in his place so much so after another encounter later that day he apologised after i called several Riley's hot rods, as they had replica roadster bodies on chassis's that probably were bread vans during the war, shame i still didn't have my 29 tatty but original Riley Brooklands and 31 Alfa 6C drophead that would have shut him up but i did mention them to him anyway in our somewhat heated discussion .
All day long the rod was photographed by the members and i asked them did my car offend them ,they looked surprised and said we wouldn't be photographing it if we were . So just goes to prove that they're not all the same.
When i told them what had happened earlier on they said that nobody else wanted his job within the club and you have to be a bit of a control freak to want to do it so they were happy to let him get on with it and they just turn up . Lucky it takes all sorts otherwise it would be pretty boring.
How you getting on with the Lotus.
Edited by rat rod on Sunday 20th September 02:58
Living just north of the M25 Dartford Crossing I really struggle with the thought of any trip south of the Thames (don't really wanna be stuck in a traffic jam with an overheating VV Vette) - so miss out on meets like Krispy Kreams, Brookland and significantly Goodwood. Would have ordinarily thought that will so much of the traditional vintage/classic/significant car stock now so excessively priced (and an acceptance of early Galaxie/Fairlane/Mustangs from 'old school traditional types) other stuff from the era would be less frowned upon - seeming not. Seems that I'm not missing too much. We have much the same thing with Vette's within the American car world. C1's and C2's are already at an 'elevated' price status and all unobtainable price wise for many. One would think that earlier chrome bumper C3's would be snapped-up as an affordable alternative - but the're not. In fact emission era mid/late 70's Vettes are plentiful and comparatively cheap. Thing is that American car 'enthusiasts' reject Vette's as 'muscle' cars, reject them as 'sports cars' as they are American and 'can't handle properly........own a Vette and you're on your own.
roscobbc said:
Living just north of the M25 Dartford Crossing I really struggle with the thought of any trip south of the Thames (don't really wanna be stuck in a traffic jam with an overheating VV Vette) - so miss out on meets like Krispy Kreams, Brookland and significantly Goodwood. Would have ordinarily thought that will so much of the traditional vintage/classic/significant car stock now so excessively priced (and an acceptance of early Galaxie/Fairlane/Mustangs from 'old school traditional types) other stuff from the era would be less frowned upon - seeming not. Seems that I'm not missing too much. We have much the same thing with Vette's within the American car world. C1's and C2's are already at an 'elevated' price status and all unobtainable price wise for many. One would think that earlier chrome bumper C3's would be snapped-up as an affordable alternative - but the're not. In fact emission era mid/late 70's Vettes are plentiful and comparatively cheap. Thing is that American car 'enthusiasts' reject Vette's as 'muscle' cars, reject them as 'sports cars' as they are American and 'can't handle properly........own a Vette and you're on your own.
I know what you mean,they don't seem fit in anywhere except with other Vettes, I've had most Vettes except a C1 and a C7 and think why at my time of life do i need 4/5 seats, .I noticed the change from when i went to shows like Billing and Wheels day in the early days and everybody was in the field together ,pickups,wagon's,muscle,chrome and fin's and of course Vettes but as the years went by the Vette club decided to put ropes around their stand as if it was Earls Court motor show which separated them from everybody else which didn't help.
To be fair the Mustang and Mopar clubs are now doing the same, almost our cars are superior to yours attitude, I know it's not like that but it's just the way it comes over.
Funny i only mentioned the other day that chrome bumper C 3's were in some cases priced less than a Cobra kit car .
That's another shape like a Dino,series 1 E Type ,GT40 and Miura that looks like they were born looking that stunning rather than from a pen.
As Newsatten said the £15k sweet spot is now £30k after that it's for the fairly wealthy.
Edited by rat rod on Sunday 20th September 11:04
newsatten said:
Rat Rod , just for you, what a machine ........................................................................... Fabulous................................
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