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newsatten said:
The registration issue bothers me , but I could throw that back to the seller, ??
If he could get this sorted it would make it far more attractive!
Ooops.......missed that bit If he could get this sorted it would make it far more attractive!
That could be a real problem. Is the seller the person that imported it from USA?
When was it imported?
If seller is person that imported it, they should still have the NOVA documentation etc., and if so, then they should be getting it registered if they want to sell it.
If its a good few years since its been imported and its a non-runner, then there's limited chance of it getting a V5C until its get a MOT, as DVLA are much tighter with issuing V5C's now and won't to any project non-runner.
Its value is dramatically reduced in these circumstances as massive risk on any potential buyer in case DVLA won't issue a V5C.
Are all the VIN tags intact and look like they've never been removed?
DVLA likely won't issue a V5C if they look like they've been 'disturbed' in any way......I know of a '55 Chevy Nomad owner that was refused a V5C after importing because the owner/restored of the car in the USA (owned it for decades) and he removed the VIN tag when it was restored...and re-fitted. That's a no-no for the DVLA now.
Edited by aeropilot on Saturday 30th March 17:06
aeropilot said:
Ooops.......missed that bit
That could be a real problem. Is the seller the person that imported it from USA?
When was it imported?
If seller is person that imported it, they should still have the NOVA documentation etc., and if so, then they should be getting it registered if they want to sell it.
If its a good few years since its been imported and its a non-runner, then there's limited chance of it getting a V5C until its get a MOT, as DVLA are much tighter with issuing V5C's now and won't to any project non-runner.
Its value is dramatically reduced in these circumstances as massive risk on any potential buyer in case DVLA won't issue a V5C.
Are all the VIN tags intact and look like they've never been removed?
DVLA likely won't issue a V5C if they look like they've been 'disturbed' in any way......I know of a '55 Chevy Nomad owner that was refused a V5C after importing because the owner/restored of the car in the USA (owned it for decades) and he removed the VIN tag when it was restored...and re-fitted. That's a no-no for the DVLA now.
The vin is on the dash panel and viewable from outside looking through the screen,That could be a real problem. Is the seller the person that imported it from USA?
When was it imported?
If seller is person that imported it, they should still have the NOVA documentation etc., and if so, then they should be getting it registered if they want to sell it.
If its a good few years since its been imported and its a non-runner, then there's limited chance of it getting a V5C until its get a MOT, as DVLA are much tighter with issuing V5C's now and won't to any project non-runner.
Its value is dramatically reduced in these circumstances as massive risk on any potential buyer in case DVLA won't issue a V5C.
Are all the VIN tags intact and look like they've never been removed?
DVLA likely won't issue a V5C if they look like they've been 'disturbed' in any way......I know of a '55 Chevy Nomad owner that was refused a V5C after importing because the owner/restored of the car in the USA (owned it for decades) and he removed the VIN tag when it was restored...and re-fitted. That's a no-no for the DVLA now.
Edited by aeropilot on Saturday 30th March 17:06
It all appears completely undisturbed ?
Don’t think there any other vins in the car,
It’s been here for ever!
The guy selling has had it a 20 plus years ,
And remembers it’s one and only repaint in 1981
Somewhere in Medway ?
So unless the seller can sort the reg out I’ll just forget about it
newsatten said:
The vin is on the dash panel and viewable from outside looking through the screen,
It all appears completely undisturbed ?
Don’t think there any other vins in the car,
It’s been here for ever!
The guy selling has had it a 20 plus years ,
And remembers it’s one and only repaint in 1981
Somewhere in Medway ?
So unless the seller can sort the reg out I’ll just forget about it
In that case then, seller should sort out the V5 issue then.....in fact they should have sorted it BEFORE even trying to sell it.It all appears completely undisturbed ?
Don’t think there any other vins in the car,
It’s been here for ever!
The guy selling has had it a 20 plus years ,
And remembers it’s one and only repaint in 1981
Somewhere in Medway ?
So unless the seller can sort the reg out I’ll just forget about it
Not doing so to me says either of two things, he's an lazy feckwit or there's something smelly.
aeropilot said:
newsatten said:
The vin is on the dash panel and viewable from outside looking through the screen,
It all appears completely undisturbed ?
Don’t think there any other vins in the car,
It’s been here for ever!
The guy selling has had it a 20 plus years ,
And remembers it’s one and only repaint in 1981
Somewhere in Medway ?
So unless the seller can sort the reg out I’ll just forget about it
In that case then, seller should sort out the V5 issue then.....in fact they should have sorted it BEFORE even trying to sell it.It all appears completely undisturbed ?
Don’t think there any other vins in the car,
It’s been here for ever!
The guy selling has had it a 20 plus years ,
And remembers it’s one and only repaint in 1981
Somewhere in Medway ?
So unless the seller can sort the reg out I’ll just forget about it
Not doing so to me says either of two things, he's an lazy feckwit or there's something smelly.
Having been around the car business virtually all my life
I like to think I can spot a scallywag , and quite sure the sellers not one , he’s convinced that this is zero problem?
Which maybe it is ? But it it is then it’s his problem,
I’ll ring him next week and report back
Thanks for the input, I’m totally green on such matters,
Hence putting it out there cos I know some of you guys are in the know !!
If this was anything other than what it is I wouldn’t have given it a second thought,
But nostalgia being what it is and all that I had to check it out, but with the amount of work required the thought of ending up with a Q plate is to horrifying to comprehend!!
newsatten said:
he’s convinced that this is zero problem?
Which maybe it is ? But it it is then it’s his problem,
It is very much his problem, and its potentially far from being a zero problem, with the much changed attitude at DVLA.Which maybe it is ? But it it is then it’s his problem,
How can it not be registered with DVLA, if car has been here 'for ever'?
At the very least it should have an old style paper V5 from pre-SORN days, which he could send off to DVLA to get a replacement new style. DVLA now though would likely be asking for lots of proof, photos, and other things before issuing a new V5C.
If he doesn't even have that, then he has no real proof its his to sell until (even though log book isn't proof of ownership etc) but I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole without seeing a new V5C in his name/address etc.
And nor will anyone else likely buy it that is aware of the current DVLA crack downs.
Edited by aeropilot on Saturday 30th March 19:13
some bloke said:
It also depends on if you can be arsed doing the work. Hundreds of hours in the shed,Vs paying a bit more and buying a car you can drive straight away.
Yep 500 minimum to do a good restoration 1000 maybe for an epic one
Or 22k or 44k
But as a labour of love my hours are free
Historically it’s been the only way I could ever afford to have a nice car, buy a turd and make it less turdy !
Lol
But yes the appeal of something virtually turn key is very very appealing
newsatten said:
ratrod 2 said:
Better idea ,sell your soul to the devil (Bank) and bag on Harry's door with bag of cash
and you will be driving your 427 Camaro in a rather nice shade of green tomorrow ,
We’re already talking!and you will be driving your 427 Camaro in a rather nice shade of green tomorrow ,
It ticks so many boxes, 69’ far and away my favourite
427 Manual , yeah it’s all there ,
In fact I’ve started putting the necessary together!
Quite looking forward to the next 6 weeks!
Lol
I'm annoyed, as I should have bought an auto with aircon. This bad boy spec manual car is no use to me in traffic. And as others have said - modifying it to be a London pussycat from a tiger would be silly, and a waste of money.
Further, lack of garage in London kills the classic thing for me. It's been nice using the car when out in Surrey, but that's not enough, really.
I've been using the Maser instead. My 3 and 5 year old girls prefer the Camaro, but my wife definitely doesn't like the lap belts in the back of the Chevy over proper child seats 3-point belted in the back of the GransSport. She has a point...
That said, start them young, I say.
Edited by Harry Flashman on Saturday 30th March 20:39
NAMCO are doing a body off resto of a C2 vette at the moment, and was interesting having a close up detailed look at a C2 chassis yesterday when at their party/open house. Was quite surprised at just how small a diameter the propshaft was!!
Oh, and that 4-dr Moggy Minor in the background had a small block in it
Oh, and that 4-dr Moggy Minor in the background had a small block in it
Harry Flashman said:
We are! I'm not advertising it until you decide what to do, as no hurry this end.
I'm annoyed, as I should have bought an auto with aircon. This bad boy spec manual car is no use to me in traffic. And as others have said - modifying it to be a London pussycat from a tiger would be silly, and a waste of money.
Further, lack of garage in London kills the classic thing for me. It's been nice using the car when out in Surrey, but that's not enough, really.
I've been using the Maser instead. My 3 and 5 year old girls prefer the Camaro, but my wife definitely doesn't like the lap belts in the back of the Chevy over proper child seats 3-point belted in the back of the GransSport. She has a point...
That said, start them young, I say.
Another Italian/yank cross dresser, you kept that one quiet HarryI'm annoyed, as I should have bought an auto with aircon. This bad boy spec manual car is no use to me in traffic. And as others have said - modifying it to be a London pussycat from a tiger would be silly, and a waste of money.
Further, lack of garage in London kills the classic thing for me. It's been nice using the car when out in Surrey, but that's not enough, really.
I've been using the Maser instead. My 3 and 5 year old girls prefer the Camaro, but my wife definitely doesn't like the lap belts in the back of the Chevy over proper child seats 3-point belted in the back of the GransSport. She has a point...
That said, start them young, I say.
Edited by Harry Flashman on Saturday 30th March 20:39
newsatten said:
Cheers for the input guys,
We’re all on the same page really,
And estimated prices are close to mine,
The registration issue bothers me , but I could throw that back to the seller, ??
If he could get this sorted it would make it far more attractive!
he’s a nice guy and obviously knowledgeable and skilled in the old car business,
We got on fine, and there’s a deal to be done but it is a big big job, if done to a higher level ?
Or I could go the Ratty look, make it as sound and as strong as possible,
Do all the running gear, rebuild the motor etc
New rims and boots , as just use it!
Could be a fantastic Road Kill type
You are worrying Far too much re getting it U.K. registered. It’s Not that others say it is. We’re all on the same page really,
And estimated prices are close to mine,
The registration issue bothers me , but I could throw that back to the seller, ??
If he could get this sorted it would make it far more attractive!
he’s a nice guy and obviously knowledgeable and skilled in the old car business,
We got on fine, and there’s a deal to be done but it is a big big job, if done to a higher level ?
Or I could go the Ratty look, make it as sound and as strong as possible,
Do all the running gear, rebuild the motor etc
New rims and boots , as just use it!
Could be a fantastic Road Kill type
aeropilot said:
NAMCO are doing a body off resto of a C2 vette at the moment, and was interesting having a close up detailed look at a C2 chassis yesterday when at their party/open house. Was quite surprised at just how small a diameter the propshaft was!!
Oh, and that 4-dr Moggy Minor in the background had a small block in it
Would be more interesting to show the birdcage, as a frame repair is quite straightforward. Oh, and that 4-dr Moggy Minor in the background had a small block in it
The frame on my C2 had some holes in the upward section and the crossmembers (with lots of flakes in the holes...) which I had planned to tackle through Christmas, easily rectified.
But a porous birdcage on the other hand...
ratrod 2 said:
newsatten said:
Spend the money on getting huge hp and have fun driving as it is,Haha
Noooo fund this pile on Facebook cars,
Think it was priced at 3K ?
No my ambitions lie elsewhere, and completely ignoring any cars that have a slusher,
My last hurrah absolutely must have a 4 speed,
I was watching a guy tooling around in a manual Ram air
TA, and the noise gave me goosebumps!
Only a manual can do that!!!
I’ll speak to my TA man next week,
He may well have all the paperwork and title malarky,
Plus I still need a really good poke and give the shell as good of survey that’s possible without pulling it all apart!
I’ve a couple of super duper lights, we’ve a proper Endoscope so I can have a look inside the rockers and the chassis rails,
I’m pretty sure it’s well doable but the cars title needs to be all 100% UK legal,
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