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ratrod 2

997 posts

10 months

Saturday 20th April
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newsatten said:
aeropilot said:
ratrod 2 said:
I heard Richmond is a nice place to have a walk along the river lined plenty of cafe and pubs so may try that one

day soon before it gets too hot and crowded and only a hour or so 's drive ,well at least that's what it use to take not that long ago , driving
Funnily enough, last Saturday, I met up with an ex-work colleague in Richmond for lunch and a few beers. First time I'd been in Richmond by the river for about 30 years, and given it was a nice warm spring day, it was packed, so luckily got there early enough at just before 1pm.
Had lunch in the Pitcher&Piano next to Richmond Rd Bridge, and a walk and a few beers further down river at the White Cross.
All a bit trendy and not my thing really, but a pleasant enough way to spend a few hours catching up with a mate, before catching train home.

Sounds very nice !!
Been there a couple of times , my brothers best mate used to live in Chertsey and had a lovely old 38” Offshore Broom tied up at the end of his garden!
We used to hope in a cruise up or down the river,
Just lovely!

Well the old girls landed! This pick just before she jumped!!
Is that a rear end of a Aston DB4/5 sharing the top shelf with the T/Am, looks like a Virage or a face lifted V8 Aston below,

The T/Am is in good company . No excuse now ,let it begin yes

Harry Flashman

19,375 posts

243 months

Saturday 20th April
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I love the spec on this. Colour combo is beautiful to my eyes.

What is S Code? Is that a 390GT?

I know much more about Chevys than Fords...

https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1711918

aeropilot

34,666 posts

228 months

Saturday 20th April
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Harry Flashman said:
I love the spec on this. Colour combo is beautiful to my eyes.

What is S Code? Is that a 390GT?

I know much more about Chevys than Fords...

https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1711918
Yes, S-code is the engine code for the 390GT.

Colour is non-original.

Its typically very expensive for a 'got-at' Mustang fastback.


Harry Flashman

19,375 posts

243 months

Saturday 20th April
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I'd have far better things to spend £80k on (plus import duties, I imagine). But I like the car, a lot.

I took my old girl out today for a long blast around the Surrey lanes near my mother's house, where it lives. Started perfectly after a long time of not being driven, ran like a dream. As I get more used to it, I am learning to drive it harder. And man, it really is not slow, this thing. It also does it's best work in the upper rev range - where, I won't lie, it sounds absolutely amazing.

It also gets a lot of attention, which I wasn't expecting in this rather understated spec.

Once again, useless in London, but out here, it's a blast.

It's a bit dusty from being garaged all winter, bit otherwise in fine settle.







Have also now perfected the art of swinging it out of the road in a big slide. It's so easy to do, with the torque from the 427, coupled with the slow steering. It's a lovely old thing, really. I really now see how people are able to showboat in these, and it's such a different experience to my other V8, that I drove down here in.



I spent time in these back to back this afternoon, in the sunshine. I feel like a very lucky boy.



Edited by Harry Flashman on Saturday 20th April 19:59

newsatten

3,337 posts

115 months

Saturday 20th April
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ratrod 2 said:
Is that a rear end of a Aston DB4/5 sharing the top shelf with the T/Am, looks like a Virage or a face lifted V8 Aston below,

The T/Am is in good company . No excuse now ,let it begin yes
Yes it is , we’ll sort of!
It’s a glass replica shell, taken from a genuine car before it was restored,
He’s got loads of astons lying about!
amongst other things!
Can’t wait to get the old girl home and make a start,
woohoo

roscobbc

3,375 posts

243 months

Saturday 20th April
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Harry Flashman said:
Have also now perfected the art of swinging it out of the road in a big slide. It's so easy to do, with the torque from the 427, coupled with the slow steering. It's a lovely old thing, really. I really now see how people are able to showboat in these, and it's such a different experience to my other V8, that I drove down here in.



Edited by Harry Flashman on Saturday 20th April 19:59
The real trick (and quite easy to achieve) in a lightweight muscle car instead of the obligatory and rather boring traditional smoky burnout (and in preference to a three point turn on a single carriage road).......ideally with an audience outside a pub or car meet is to do a 180 degree power turnaround. Simply pull slowly away a foot or so from the kerb, briefly hit the gas pedal, similtaneously releasing the clutch and start to turn the steering wheel fully in the direction you want go and with a minimum of effort it'll flip round in its own length effectively pivoting on its front axle. Much easier to do in a manual........minimal wheelspin needed.

aeropilot

34,666 posts

228 months

Saturday 20th April
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roscobbc said:
The real trick (and quite easy to achieve) in a lightweight muscle car instead of the obligatory and rather boring traditional smoky burnout (and in preference to a three point turn on a single carriage road).......ideally with an audience outside a pub or car meet is to do a 180 degree power turnaround. Simply pull slowly away a foot or so from the kerb, briefly hit the gas pedal, similtaneously releasing the clutch and start to turn the steering wheel fully in the direction you want go and with a minimum of effort it'll flip round in its own length effectively pivoting on its front axle. Much easier to do in a manual........minimal wheelspin needed.
Just make sure you have a working LSD before trying that (or have a LSD fitted), as the potential for looking a prize pillock is otherwise very high..... wink

Its the same technique as de-clutching a LSD in a rally car to create the same effect as a handbrake turn, without using the handbrake. Used to be a fun afternoon practicing that around cones at Rallyschool training many decades ago smile

newsatten

3,337 posts

115 months

Saturday 20th April
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Harry Flashman said:
I'd have far better things to spend £80k on (plus import duties, I imagine). But I like the car, a lot.

I took my old girl out today for a long blast around the Surrey lanes near my mother's house, where it lives. Started perfectly after a long time of not being driven, ran like a dream. As I get more used to it, I am learning to drive it harder. And man, it really is not slow, this thing. It also does it's best work in the upper rev range - where, I won't lie, it sounds absolutely amazing.

It also gets a lot of attention, which I wasn't expecting in this rather understated spec.

Once again, useless in London, but out here, it's a blast.

It's a bit dusty from being garaged all winter, bit otherwise in fine settle.







Have also now perfected the art of swinging it out of the road in a big slide. It's so easy to do, with the torque from the 427, coupled with the slow steering. It's a lovely old thing, really. I really now see how people are able to showboat in these, and it's such a different experience to my other V8, that I drove down here in.



I spent time in these back to back this afternoon, in the sunshine. I feel like a very lucky boy.



Edited by Harry Flashman on Saturday 20th April 19:59
This is a hugely better car than a wobbly old boat anchor motored Fatback stang,
90 grand , good grief my 68 had a 302 and it went ok but absolutely crap on the road,
427 69’ 4 speed Camaro , composed or not it’s on another planet to that Ford !!
And factor in they were all composed what’s the difference???
Baldwin ?? RPM ??
Apart from bull sh-te no difference! lol

ratrod 2

997 posts

10 months

Saturday 20th April
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You guys sound like a bunch of 19 year old juvenile delinquents instead of responsible bus pass owning pensioners,

Yes i know not all are but not too far from it, We are meant to show a good example to the younger guys on here,

bks to that ,carry on misbehaving ,life's tooo short to conform thumbup


ratrod 2

997 posts

10 months

Saturday 20th April
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Harry Flashman said:
I'd have far better things to spend £80k on (plus import duties, I imagine). But I like the car, a lot.

I took my old girl out today for a long blast around the Surrey lanes near my mother's house, where it lives. Started perfectly after a long time of not being driven, ran like a dream. As I get more used to it, I am learning to drive it harder. And man, it really is not slow, this thing. It also does it's best work in the upper rev range - where, I won't lie, it sounds absolutely amazing.

It also gets a lot of attention, which I wasn't expecting in this rather understated spec.

Once again, useless in London, but out here, it's a blast.

It's a bit dusty from being garaged all winter, bit otherwise in fine settle.







Have also now perfected the art of swinging it out of the road in a big slide. It's so easy to do, with the torque from the 427, coupled with the slow steering. It's a lovely old thing, really. I really now see how people are able to showboat in these, and it's such a different experience to my other V8, that I drove down here in.



I spent time in these back to back this afternoon, in the sunshine. I feel like a very lucky boy.



Edited by Harry Flashman on Saturday 20th April 19:59
Still looking good Harry,

Yanks out on the street get so much love ,

Seems to brighten every ones day up when they see and hear one. driving

SRT Hellcat

7,034 posts

218 months

Saturday 20th April
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ratrod 2 said:
You guys sound like a bunch of 19 year old juvenile delinquents instead of responsible bus pass owning pensioners,

Yes i know not all are but not too far from it, We are meant to show a good example to the younger guys on here,

bks to that ,carry on misbehaving ,life's tooo short to conform thumbup
absolutely. Let us all grow old disgracefully smile

ratrod 2

997 posts

10 months

Saturday 20th April
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aeropilot said:
ratrod 2 said:
and Frank Dale have moved out of town to Camberley
Dale's are literally just around the corner in the same trading estate as NAMCO.
The Dales moved from Fulham to Harlequin Avenue ,just off the Great West Road in Brentford

close to where the car auction use to be , They were there for a good many years .

I was surprised they moved to Camberley as they always been London based,

I shall go and have a nosy next time i'm up that way, i doubt if i will know any one there now as most of the guys i knew there

in the Fulham days are either dead or retired.



aeropilot

34,666 posts

228 months

Saturday 20th April
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ratrod 2 said:
The Dales moved from Fulham to Harlequin Avenue ,just off the Great West Road in Brentford

close to where the car auction use to be , They were there for a good many years .

I was surprised they moved to Camberley as they always been London based,
I would guess they moved when Sky started buying up most of Harlequin Ave....

Many places have moved out of London due to the workshop rental costs and other factors around cost of living in London, even outer area like Brentford, especially if your workers are not living nearby and are driving from out of London into London.
There's a risk of loosing some die-hard London customers I suppose, but there are less and less 'classic' specialists now in London, most have moved out beyond the M25 for obvious reasons.

DD Classics showroom is in the next road from Harlequin Ave, in Shield Dr behind the old Firestone factory front, which is also where Bristol Cars service centre and restoration unit moved to from where they used to be on the A4 near the Tolgarth roundabout, but Bristol Cars are now gone from there too in recent years.....not sure where to, or if they've just gone out of business instead...?


roscobbc

3,375 posts

243 months

Saturday 20th April
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aeropilot said:
I would guess they moved when Sky started buying up most of Harlequin Ave....

Many places have moved out of London due to the workshop rental costs and other factors around cost of living in London, even outer area like Brentford, especially if your workers are not living nearby and are driving from out of London into London.
There's a risk of loosing some die-hard London customers I suppose, but there are less and less 'classic' specialists now in London, most have moved out beyond the M25 for obvious reasons.

DD Classics showroom is in the next road from Harlequin Ave, in Shield Dr behind the old Firestone factory front, which is also where Bristol Cars service centre and restoration unit moved to from where they used to be on the A4 near the Tolgarth roundabout, but Bristol Cars are now gone from there too in recent years.....not sure where to, or if they've just gone out of business instead...?
Didn't Bristol Cars 'wind-up' a few years ago (or effectively go bust) - someone bought out their remaining bits and pieces including a couple of unassembled Fighter shells - and proceeded to offer them and reconditioned Bristols at highly elevated prices? (and go bust again?)

aeropilot

34,666 posts

228 months

Saturday 20th April
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roscobbc said:
aeropilot said:
I would guess they moved when Sky started buying up most of Harlequin Ave....

Many places have moved out of London due to the workshop rental costs and other factors around cost of living in London, even outer area like Brentford, especially if your workers are not living nearby and are driving from out of London into London.
There's a risk of loosing some die-hard London customers I suppose, but there are less and less 'classic' specialists now in London, most have moved out beyond the M25 for obvious reasons.

DD Classics showroom is in the next road from Harlequin Ave, in Shield Dr behind the old Firestone factory front, which is also where Bristol Cars service centre and restoration unit moved to from where they used to be on the A4 near the Tolgarth roundabout, but Bristol Cars are now gone from there too in recent years.....not sure where to, or if they've just gone out of business instead...?
Didn't Bristol Cars 'wind-up' a few years ago (or effectively go bust) - someone bought out their remaining bits and pieces including a couple of unassembled Fighter shells - and proceeded to offer them and reconditioned Bristols at highly elevated prices? (and go bust again?)
Just looked it up, and while I remember them closing the production factory at Filton a good while ago when going into administration (2011 on looking it up) the service/restoration/spares business continued under new ownership at the site in Brentford, which used to be right across road from Berry BMW which I used to use on occasion before I moved out of London in 2019, but it seems this part of the business also folded up in 2020.

Harry Flashman

19,375 posts

243 months

Saturday 20th April
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ratrod 2 said:
You guys sound like a bunch of 19 year old juvenile delinquents instead of responsible bus pass owning pensioners,

Yes i know not all are but not too far from it, We are meant to show a good example to the younger guys on here,

bks to that ,carry on misbehaving ,life's tooo short to conform thumbup
smile

ratrod 2

997 posts

10 months

Sunday 21st April
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Didn't a Canadian company buy Bristol ,Cars can't quite remember when but as you guys said they went into liquidation

after trying to save the company,


There is a couple video's on YT on what was left of Bristol cars in a hide away near Heathrow i think,

Two you tubers broke in to the storage basement were they stored prior to being auctioned off,

Very interesting what they stumbled on , well worth a look even if your not into Bristol's, Cars not the other sort ,

1 is on the" Bearded Explorer" Channel ,Title " We found loads of extremely rare super cars hidden in basement worth millions"

2 is on the " Lost Adventures " Channel, Title " Secret underground facility hiding cars worth millions ( Formula 1 and prototyps) "

If any interest perhaps someone could link them ?



When Ronnie Hoare ( The Colonel ) died and the family sold out Maranello's to the Inchcape company one of the salesman's

left there to work at Bristol Cars at the showroom near Olympia ,

Called in one day to see how he was getting on in his new job ,

Although i'd passed there numerous times i'd never been inside,so was quite a shock ,

it was like time stood still ,reminded me of the sitcom "Are You Being Served" being reminiscent of a old

fashion department store with the founder owner Tony Crook who reminded me of Mr Grace from the program,

At that time he was still flying himself in from Bristol airport to London for the few days he came in.

I ended up buying a couple of cars from them unfortunately not Bristols but a Ferrari 400 and of all things a Panther Lima automatic that they

had taken in p/ex against some Bristols and didn't know what to do with them ,

They were covered in dust in their storage room opposite the showroom must have been there for months ,

The salesman using his knowledge has now got his own business specialising in Bristols in Warminster and doing really well

as no one else has bothered to deal in them.









Edited by ratrod 2 on Sunday 21st April 00:59

roscobbc

3,375 posts

243 months

Sunday 21st April
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ratrod 2 said:
Didn't a Canadian company buy Bristol ,Cars can't quite remember when but as you guys said they went into liquidation

after trying to save the company,


There is a couple video's on YT on what was left of Bristol cars in a hide away near Heathrow i think,

Two you tubers broke in to the storage basement were they stored prior to being auctioned off,

Very interesting what they stumbled on , well worth a look even if your not into Bristol's, Cars not the other sort ,

1 is on the" Bearded Explorer" Channel ,Title " We found loads of extremely rare super cars hidden in basement worth millions"

2 is on the " Lost Adventures " Channel, Title " Secret underground facility hiding cars worth millions ( Formula 1 and prototyps) "

If any interest perhaps someone could link them ?



When Ronnie Hoare ( The Colonel ) died and the family sold out Maranello's to the Inchcape company one of the salesman's

left there to work at Bristol Cars at the showroom near Olympia ,

Called in one day to see how he was getting on in his new job ,

Although i'd passed there numerous times i'd never been inside,so was quite a shock ,

it was like time stood still ,reminded me of the sitcom "Are You Being Served" being reminiscent of a old

fashion department store with the founder owner Tony Crook who reminded me of Mr Grace from the program,

At that time he was still flying himself in from Bristol airport to London for the few days he came in.

I ended up buying a couple of cars from them unfortunately not Bristols but a Ferrari 400 and of all things a Panther Lima automatic that they

had taken in p/ex against some Bristols and didn't know what to do with them ,

They were covered in dust in their storage room opposite the showroom must have been there for months ,

The salesman using his knowledge has now got his own business specialising in Bristols in Warminster and doing really well

as no one else has bothered to deal in them.









Edited by ratrod 2 on Sunday 21st April 00:59
Seem to recall many years ago when working for a company not so far from Warminster calling-in on someone who specialised in Bristol cars, SLJ or Spencer Lane-Jones in an old commercial garage out in the sticks.........seems they have gone into partnership with a Richard Hackett under the name of SLJ Hackett and moved to some innocuous old premises. It appears they bought the two final Bristol Fighters and are completing them for resale - see https://www.sljhackett.co.uk/ interesting reading - but where did the hugely 'elevated' prices come from?
Looks as though Spencer Lane-Jones has retained the parts and servicing side of things with a different address and website https://www.spencer-lj.com/

ratrod 2

997 posts

10 months

Sunday 21st April
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roscobbc said:
Seem to recall many years ago when working for a company not so far from Warminster calling-in on someone who specialised in Bristol cars, SLJ or Spencer Lane-Jones in an old commercial garage out in the sticks.........seems they have gone into partnership with a Richard Hackett under the name of SLJ Hackett and moved to some innocuous old premises. It appears they bought the two final Bristol Fighters and are completing them for resale - see https://www.sljhackett.co.uk/ interesting reading - but where did the hugely 'elevated' prices come from?
Looks as though Spencer Lane-Jones has retained the parts and servicing side of things with a different address and website https://www.spencer-lj.com/
Yes that's the guy ,Richard Hackett worked for Tony Crook before working at Maranello's and when he couldn't get on with the new very

corporate owners he left and went back to Bristol Cars,

Maranello's were privately owned much the same as Bristol Cars with a similar working environment ,eg 5 day week and the salesman took turns

to work on Saterdays up to midday , In typical corporate fashion they wanted him to work all day Saterday and every other Sunday as if selling Fords

not Ferrari's so Richard being old skool left after being there for some years followed by the remaining sales staff shortly after.

After buying cars from them for more than 10 years i felt like a stranger in my own home so to speak with all the new faces in the showroom,

Think they call it progress, not so sure about that rolleyes



roscobbc

3,375 posts

243 months

Sunday 21st April
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As much as I like the overall concept of a Bristol.......some models (in appearance terms) are wonderful looking.......then Anthony Crook would go and *uck it all up by using some crap bumpers, Jaguar wheel trims, an unbalanced headlamp arrangement or simply ungainly front nacelle/grill and naff styled chrome side trim. And then there was the 412/Beaufighter turbo (which I quite liked). Bottom line for me was the dodgy corrosion protection (from adjoining steel and alloy body components) and poor wearing upholstery and it's new price even higher than Rolls Royces.