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Yep seen a fair bit of this epic machine, the shear grunt is pretty amazing!
And yes am with you on the scary punt kinda thing! my balls are probably far to small to take a chance
As whatever i buy will have to live outside, and this time of year is a bit pants really, damp and generally a bit crap,and with my pending knee op even if i found something its unlikely much would get done!
One of things i regret is not buying a home with a big double garage !
we looked at one which would have been perfect for me, but my wife wasn't so impressed
So i'l just keep window shopping, something may come up!
You brought the TA yet???
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Ye that T/a is quite a monster, does get me motivated for another America track car but with number plates attached.
Easy solution to your 2 garage house,turn the downstairs into a garage area,you still will have the bathroom and bedrooms upstairs,job done and 2 more cars undercover,the only down side is trying to get the wife on your side to avoid a divorce.
Easy for me to talk i haven't got one of them so can do what i like but my younger son( 33) who lives with me since 18 months old pulls me back in from time to time.
Spoke to the owner of the T/A on Thursday,he says he's in no rush and will not be advertising it as yet .
Price has gone up since last year partly due to him having the engine rebuilt in between but the gearbox is still noisy, says it sounds like straight cut gears but there not.
He is aware prices have gone up.here and in the States thanks to the internet but with winter and covid 19 still around they may steady down a little.
Going to put the Austin Seven Ruby up for sale next week and see what happens, never drive it ,doesn't take a lot of room up but alone with the Dart money would be handy to sell it.,
Last time we used it my son said we were holding up a cycle race going up hill and choking them with our fumes, maybe a step too far back but i have a photo of my dad along side his Ruby being his first car after being demobbed after the war.
He owned a 55 Fairlane coupe bought in 1959 so when i bought a 56 i was so excited to show him and take him out in it.
Unfortunately he didn't share my enthusiasm and said i can't believe i drove a car like this and had to almost force him to go for a drive, shame.
It was only 4 years old then so i purpose it was just another car to him and not a classic.
There was a Galaxie for sale on "Car and Classic" think 63 or 64 but made the Parisienne convertible look like a concours contender so didn't think you would be interested unless you want to build it as a race car, no interior needed might help the cost's.
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Edited by rat rod on Saturday 3rd October 16:36
The period race car idea is nice, but bare shell, Full Cage etc, very trying to use, yes i suppose savings are made on trim etc, but a Angry high horse motor is 10K all day long!
Way over my budget, plus any restoration that requires body panels , the cost will rocket !
I'l have to look at unloved stuff, which is still just about affordable!
Buick's ,Old's things like the XL, the ironic thing is these types of American Coupes all drive nicely, go as well as 90% of the " Muscle " types
So they may be poverty level but they are also entertaining !
As you know your cars, i assume youve discounted the TA's Trans is a Ali Cased Muncie M22? these are very noisy in low gears, but should go quite in top,
Id love any GM that had one of these! love the video's of howling 302 Z28's and growling M22's, just Theatre ,
My Challenger offers some of the above, the soundtrack is epic, managed to get the old girl out today, waited till the roads dried up then went for a nice hour run, that one hour made my weekend
SRT Hellcat said:
I bought this in site unseen from the US back in 2004. A genuine 70 1/2 Z28 with 4 speed manual but it had a 427 in it sold as a COPO car.
I picked it up from Chatham Docks when it arrived.
The guys there where very helpful and even back then said most imported US muscle car stuff was never as described.
There was a 68 Charger and something else that guys had just left there as they were piles of rust.
Thankfully the car looked great as in the pictures.
Down sides
It was not a COPO but at least it was a Z28
Vin tags missing.
I never got the original hood as we agreed.
All four wheels where badly buckled
The 4 link had been refitted and run under the rear chassis rails putting dents in both of them
Engine hard bolted to the subframe with no engine mounts
Headers would scrape the floor on even slight undulations in the road
Braided fuel lines ran too close to the exhaust system. I only noticed when I could see melted rubber bleeding out of the braided hose.
No wipers or washers. Quite common for a California car.
There was some other stuff that I cannot remember. I fixed everything up but only kept the car a short while.
I paid too much as a friend did not advise me correctly on how to import a classic in from the states. That dumbfounded me until I discovered his wife took care of all the import stuff.
Anyway you live and learn.
Thankfully I have a really great guy in New Hampshire Garry LePlant. Has his own shop and does a lot of trailering.
Apart from the Hellcat he helped me bring in he also looked at another car I bought and collected it and took it to the Jersey docks for me. You really need someone you can trust stateside or you could end up getting your fingers really burnt
It took me 3 months to get a Le Camino back from Guernsey using the wrong shippers,had to start allover again with another company, wouldn't have taken that long from the States.
One of my friends have imported 4 cars and been more than pleased with them but another was going out to Canada with a shot gun when he saw his Cuda sitting on the dock, it was that bad, he thinks the photo's where taken of another car at a show.
Luck and plenty of judgement needed.
That's a good looking Camaro well worth sorting if arrived looking like that but it all cost's extra money if you haven't budgeted for it.,
Had a plain jane gen 2 with a standard small block in pea green,not a exciting car but then had a 67 gen 1 road legal race car which was neither good on the road or the track ,not one thing or the other so replaced it with a 67 Firebird gen 1 race car,
Bought it from a guy who raced it in the Aston Martin Intermarque race series which all cars had to be road registered and m.o.t'd with road tyres which was handy as could be driven on the road legally but only on cloudy days as the perspex side windows where fixed with not even a vent to open,
No carpet or sound deadening you would roast when the sun appeared, Did a few track days but was wasted on me as i didn't race it ,
So was pleased when i sold it to a Aston Martin member from Jersey who raced a vintage 1 1/2 litre Aston in the same Intermarque series and was fed up with coming in last, helped that he knew the car as he had raced against it .
Was on my way to hopefully buy a racing Mustang like yours a couple of years ago being auctioned by Historics but the M3 was completely
closed due to a bomb scare and was diverted though Winchester,imagine 4 lanes of Motorway traffic going through the narrow streets of Winchester,needless to say we got there late and i missed it.
newsatten said:
The period race car idea is nice, but bare shell, Full Cage etc, very trying to use, yes i suppose savings are made on trim etc, but a Angry high horse motor is 10K all day long!
Way over my budget, plus any restoration that requires body panels , the cost will rocket !
I'l have to look at unloved stuff, which is still just about affordable!
Buick's ,Old's things like the XL, the ironic thing is these types of American Coupes all drive nicely, go as well as 90% of the " Muscle " types
So they may be poverty level but they are also entertaining !
As you know your cars, i assume youve discounted the TA's Trans is a Ali Cased Muncie M22? these are very noisy in low gears, but should go quite in top,
Id love any GM that had one of these! love the video's of howling 302 Z28's and growling M22's, just Theatre ,
My Challenger offers some of the above, the soundtrack is epic, managed to get the old girl out today, waited till the roads dried up then went for a nice hour run, that one hour made my weekend
Performance parts don't come cheap even if you can build it yourself.
My Galaxie was turned into a race car you may have seen it about,bright orange with a single black stripe on the left side,amazing how uneducated the general public are mistaking it for a General Lee as it had a number 44 on the side also in black. with Yee Ha often sounded at me .
The cost of transforming it into a race car was off the scale but the guy was the richest man in Ireland apparently so could have afforded it
When i delivered it to this workshop it was like Aladdins cave, Lightweight E types, D types ,Listers and T 70's and more.different world,
The twist is that it never got raced and was for sale for best part of 2 years with various dealers on S.O.R.
He eventually sold it at Coys in their last sale before they went bust and never got paid,only know this as the buyer called me for for more information as couldn't really call the seller as like rubbing salt into the wounds.
I too love the 60's 70's big cruisers come muscle cars ,great value compared to everything else and they drive so well compared to the earlier stuff.
Had a 70's Fury ,large old tank ,very gangster ,in fact it was on E Bay not long ago,
If they got a good working heater and if a bit ratty you can drive them though the winter, I used a 78 Caddy to go to the Ace 4/5 up in all weathers ,parked it where i liked without worrying about it, lot to be said for that.
Not as knowledgeable as you as i only think i had the M22 box in my previous T/A ,i know it was a Muncie and bugie called it a rock cruncher,not sure if i've got the terminology wright but don't remember it being particularly noisy..
Yes you could be wright about the other one having a M22 as the guy isn't a yank man and only bought it as he remembered a hand painted one in his road and use to watch it go roaring by as a kid and made a lasting impression on him.
Glad you got the Challenger out today with winter closing in got to make the most of it.
Been raining here all day hence so many post's as i was bored.
No beach, no car events not that there's bean many this summer anyway.
Normally go to Goodwoods MM meeting around March/April but that's been postponed till God knows when so lets hope Wheels Day is a goer at Easter otherwise i will be boring everyone with even more post's.
Edited by rat rod on Sunday 4th October 01:20
Yep its all a bit rubbish this time of year, and covid has definitely made it far worse,
Were all getting weary now, not good going into the dark period!
If its going to level/lower prices im guessing nows the time it will start filtering through, cant really see any drastic changes but 5-10k off the bottom line is a possibility i'd think?
Im watching the Green Charger on The Market, this will be a good indicator, its a lot more than i was thinking of paying, but may get involved!
The horrible Wrap could limit what it makes, no telling what's going on beneath the plastic,
Yeah Budgie was correct it was called the Rock Chrusher, im certainty no expert on these, but think there was a M20-21 22,
the 21 and 22 were ali cased, and the 22 is the close ratio box,
The White TA that started my love affair with these thing had a 22, long gone when i viewed it a few years back, so had its motor, it had a weezy 455 smog motor in it!
I still want one! 40 years ive wanted one, such a bummer being a pauper
Were all getting weary now, not good going into the dark period!
If its going to level/lower prices im guessing nows the time it will start filtering through, cant really see any drastic changes but 5-10k off the bottom line is a possibility i'd think?
Im watching the Green Charger on The Market, this will be a good indicator, its a lot more than i was thinking of paying, but may get involved!
The horrible Wrap could limit what it makes, no telling what's going on beneath the plastic,
Yeah Budgie was correct it was called the Rock Chrusher, im certainty no expert on these, but think there was a M20-21 22,
the 21 and 22 were ali cased, and the 22 is the close ratio box,
The White TA that started my love affair with these thing had a 22, long gone when i viewed it a few years back, so had its motor, it had a weezy 455 smog motor in it!
I still want one! 40 years ive wanted one, such a bummer being a pauper
M21 and M22 are essentially the same gearbox, both with the same close ratio's. Just that M22 has different angle teeth - supposedly to handle more hp than M21 (perhaps better engagement?). Don't think there is really much difference in power handling capacity between the two though - I have an M21 behind my 571hp/606 ftlb Vette for 7 or 8 years and its been OK (so far). As for the gear noise on indirect gears with M22 - would you really hear this above the rest of the engine and exhaust noise.
newsatten said:
Yep its all a bit rubbish this time of year, and covid has definitely made it far worse,
Were all getting weary now, not good going into the dark period!
If its going to level/lower prices im guessing nows the time it will start filtering through, cant really see any drastic changes but 5-10k off the bottom line is a possibility i'd think?
Im watching the Green Charger on The Market, this will be a good indicator, its a lot more than i was thinking of paying, but may get involved!
The horrible Wrap could limit what it makes, no telling what's going on beneath the plastic,
Yeah Budgie was correct it was called the Rock Chrusher, im certainty no expert on these, but think there was a M20-21 22,
the 21 and 22 were ali cased, and the 22 is the close ratio box,
The White TA that started my love affair with these thing had a 22, long gone when i viewed it a few years back, so had its motor, it had a weezy 455 smog motor in it!
I still want one! 40 years ive wanted one, such a bummer being a pauper
How do you think i feel,had one and sold it to pay the taxman,not even buying another toy.Were all getting weary now, not good going into the dark period!
If its going to level/lower prices im guessing nows the time it will start filtering through, cant really see any drastic changes but 5-10k off the bottom line is a possibility i'd think?
Im watching the Green Charger on The Market, this will be a good indicator, its a lot more than i was thinking of paying, but may get involved!
The horrible Wrap could limit what it makes, no telling what's going on beneath the plastic,
Yeah Budgie was correct it was called the Rock Chrusher, im certainty no expert on these, but think there was a M20-21 22,
the 21 and 22 were ali cased, and the 22 is the close ratio box,
The White TA that started my love affair with these thing had a 22, long gone when i viewed it a few years back, so had its motor, it had a weezy 455 smog motor in it!
I still want one! 40 years ive wanted one, such a bummer being a pauper
In hindsight i should have sold the 59 El Camino i had at the same time or got a loan.
Paid £12,500 for it from the guy who owned it for 24 years and he had the dilemma whether to sell the T/A or his concours Wedge Mach 1,
I sold it for £16,500 so we both got it wrong but i was under pressure at the time.
Not as bad as a 246 Dino that i paid same money as T/A needing a paint,sold it for £ 20k painted. what's that worth today.
Every thing is going to take a knock but think the yank market will far better than some British classic's,have you seen how many E Types and Healey's at silly money are for sale.
Semi classic Ferrari's and Lamboghini's will drop big time but the proper classic ones 's 50's/70's have already dropped loads so may level off.
Any thing ultra rare will be ok, They are treated like art.
The wrapped Charger 500 is one of my old cars, i bought it from a Arab who bought it from his wealthy Arab boss who lived in Marbella some of the time.
It went from Californna to Spain where he had a few cars so never got used much.
Was a lovely orginal car with no rust apart from a very small amount in the boot floor.
Had a very dark green original vinyl roof and interior which was like new, still retains both.
Paintwork was also original with one or two marks but nothing serious.
Never checked it but pretty sure she's matching numbers.
Drove like new but was a bit of a barge compared to the Challenger, not that quick, steering to light and vague and floaty.
I paid £4,500 which was cheap even then ,so cheap that it worried me that maybe it wasn't his to sell being still on California plates and no way of checking it out the usual way..
I sold it to Alan Carrington ,from memory he gave me £5,500 plus a really nice Iroc Camaro which went and handled better than the Charger.
He painted the car and put new Torque Thrusts on it ,I think even back then (aprox 13/14 years ago) he was asking £27k.
I sold the Iroc for £5,750 so got £11,250 for the Charger but had to sell 2 cars to do it but didn't touch either car.
He sold it to a banker in London,think i mentioned it in one of my post's who lived at the Chelsea Harbour ,
After it overheated in the Kings Rd he phoned Alan and asked him to sort it out and sell it for him as the novelty had worn off and didn't really go with his new Rolls,Ferrari and Porsche.
So Alan got to sell it twice,I saw it at the N.E.C classic car show 3/4 years ago and the paintwork was still really good even under the strong lights. it was on display rather than for sale.
As long as the wrap doesn't damage the paint it should be as i saw it.
I would leave the wrap on just take that silly scull and crossbones off, just for the winter ,Would protect the paint and at least could be driven and maybe even left outside .
Once the wrap was off my O.C,D would kick in and i would valet it to death ,lock it away and not use it until the summer.
It's also on the "The Market" on line auction as well as E Bay ,top bid at the moment is £18,250 so a long way from £30k on E Bay,
Seeing 68/69's at £60k to £100k plus,because i know the car i don't think it's dear at £30k but less would be better ,the price of a restorable Mustang fastback probably not registered that's been sitting in a field for a while ,people will worry what's under the wrap and although it's the original colour it's more Caprice than Charger.
If you are thinking about going for it, You won't find a more rust free unrestored Charger apart from the repaint.
It's the wright shape just with the wrong front, wonder if you can change the front to a 68/69 without to much trouble.
Yes you nailed it, weary is a good way of putting how the majority of the nation are feeling now it's winter.
Think most of us have been in a summer bubble especially as the good weather started in March till now.
They've cancelled every thing this year so lets hope they cancel Christmas ,I known a lot of people like it but never worked out why.
Blimey your back catalogue is epic!
some fab info there, its almost certainly out of reach for me, and judging buy other cars, should make well over the estimate, it is a good looking thing, i love the rear haunches, and the flying buttress rear screen, as you say its a big car,
i must be odd as i prefer the 500, the whole front end is so 70 Dodge,
Definitely too good to be an outside car, so just another dream car really , im very reluctant to consider the idea of selling the Challenger to replace with another car that needs TLC as ive said ive only a single garage, and i know from the RR a B body car is big!
My problem is ive got some time, mainly due to being part time, The RT's done as much as these cars are ever done, and as you said like your old partner im the same, and get a real buzz doing the resto work,
And given the title of this thread , which we all agree are stupid, but going forward into winter/covid territory maybe well see some readjustments, wishful thinking yeah maybe,
But you never know! and my next car could be just around the corner lol..................................................
some fab info there, its almost certainly out of reach for me, and judging buy other cars, should make well over the estimate, it is a good looking thing, i love the rear haunches, and the flying buttress rear screen, as you say its a big car,
i must be odd as i prefer the 500, the whole front end is so 70 Dodge,
Definitely too good to be an outside car, so just another dream car really , im very reluctant to consider the idea of selling the Challenger to replace with another car that needs TLC as ive said ive only a single garage, and i know from the RR a B body car is big!
My problem is ive got some time, mainly due to being part time, The RT's done as much as these cars are ever done, and as you said like your old partner im the same, and get a real buzz doing the resto work,
And given the title of this thread , which we all agree are stupid, but going forward into winter/covid territory maybe well see some readjustments, wishful thinking yeah maybe,
But you never know! and my next car could be just around the corner lol..................................................
newsatten said:
Blimey your back catalogue is epic!
some fab info there, its almost certainly out of reach for me, and judging buy other cars, should make well over the estimate, it is a good looking thing, i love the rear haunches, and the flying buttress rear screen, as you say its a big car,
i must be odd as i prefer the 500, the whole front end is so 70 Dodge,
Definitely too good to be an outside car, so just another dream car really , im very reluctant to consider the idea of selling the Challenger to replace with another car that needs TLC as ive said ive only a single garage, and i know from the RR a B body car is big!
My problem is ive got some time, mainly due to being part time, The RT's done as much as these cars are ever done, and as you said like your old partner im the same, and get a real buzz doing the resto work,
And given the title of this thread , which we all agree are stupid, but going forward into winter/covid territory maybe well see some readjustments, wishful thinking yeah maybe,
But you never know! and my next car could be just around the corner lol..................................................
Very positive attitude, after all this crap going on and the uncertainty for everybody it would be nice for something good to come out of it
Very positive attitude ,after all this crap going on and the uncertainty for everybody it would be nice for something good to come out of it some fab info there, its almost certainly out of reach for me, and judging buy other cars, should make well over the estimate, it is a good looking thing, i love the rear haunches, and the flying buttress rear screen, as you say its a big car,
i must be odd as i prefer the 500, the whole front end is so 70 Dodge,
Definitely too good to be an outside car, so just another dream car really , im very reluctant to consider the idea of selling the Challenger to replace with another car that needs TLC as ive said ive only a single garage, and i know from the RR a B body car is big!
My problem is ive got some time, mainly due to being part time, The RT's done as much as these cars are ever done, and as you said like your old partner im the same, and get a real buzz doing the resto work,
And given the title of this thread , which we all agree are stupid, but going forward into winter/covid territory maybe well see some readjustments, wishful thinking yeah maybe,
But you never know! and my next car could be just around the corner lol..................................................
Very positive attitude, after all this crap going on and the uncertainty for everybody it would be nice for something good to come out of it
so if prices do take a hit and you could pick up a bargain would be a morale boost and keep you interested if you find yourself
with time to spare. Know your not in it for the money but with your talents you could accidentally make some money out of your hobby.
You could say it won't be a hobby then but does it matter.
Price wise the wealthy will hold on till things get back to where they were and the rest would depend on the need to sale opposed to not fussed whether they sell or not.
Sorry the E bay ad on the Charger 500 is " The Market" , i assumed the owner had put it on but read it properly tonight.
The bid is still £18,250 with 2 days to go.
I got someone local who wants to buy the 32 Roadster which would solve my cash flow for the T/A but i don't really want to sell or should i say sacrifice it for the T/A but would make life easier, Hence my ad going on for the Ruby.
I've offered him the 32 3 window but he wants a nostalgia rod with a flat head,manual ,drums where the 3 window
has disc's,318 with a 727 ,much more usable than the roadster especially on log trips,
See the faces of BMW,Audi drivers when i pass them doing 90 plus on the motorway with no bonnet,fenders or paint . It's priceless.
My son hates it as he's taller than me and can't see traffic lights without almost laying down and has a crick in his neck after a long run.
I keep telling him how lucky he is but he's been surrounded by these type of cars since a kid so just takes them for granted ,
He daily drives my dad's 30 year old 190e which he inherited and a R33 V spec for weekends but would like a Mad Max type of yank
just to scare the neighbours, Any idea's.
Edited by rat rod on Monday 5th October 18:12
Mad Max types, seem to be thin on the ground, i suppose a U't with a LS motor would do the job!
We were told today the come November we will be readjusting the work force?? which apparently means job sharing!
so looks like i'l be on a 2-3 day week till next spring, so providing my knee holds up it should give me some time do get some bits done to the Challenger, and maybe car two if i can find something?
Thought about what you said regarding the Charger, nice car no doubt , but its to good to live on the drive, and to be honest it will drain most of my savings, so as my old man used say " if in doubt,dont!"
So carry on looking for something suitable, and cheaper ! lol..........................
A Bit like you RR, selling something you like to finance another toy is dodgy, as much as ive wanted a early TA i just dont see them as a 60K
motor, no way are they twice the car my RT is, and im guessing you think likewise
great looking car without doubt but well over priced really!And no , im not interested in the slightest about investment of profit!
ive never made a bean on any of my cars, but ive always managed money back, because i put hour after hour into each one i build in a cushion , with my free labour,
Blimey if i factored in the labour the Challenger would owe me 80K plus
I remember having a conversation with a mate about this, he couldn't believe the time and dedication that was put into my 57 Bird,
lovely as it was , i was doing my brains with 100's of hours of free labour!
It wasn't till i pointed out that in his way he was doing the self same thing, his garden was pretty much perfect, a show piece, 100's of man hours, however his house was still worth the same as all the others in his road!
Cest la vie ...................................................
newsatten said:
Mad Max types, seem to be thin on the ground, i suppose a U't with a LS motor would do the job!
We were told today the come November we will be readjusting the work force?? which apparently means job sharing!
so looks like i'l be on a 2-3 day week till next spring, so providing my knee holds up it should give me some time do get some bits done to the Challenger, and maybe car two if i can find something?
Thought about what you said regarding the Charger, nice car no doubt , but its to good to live on the drive, and to be honest it will drain most of my savings, so as my old man used say " if in doubt,dont!"
So carry on looking for something suitable, and cheaper ! lol..........................
A Bit like you RR, selling something you like to finance another toy is dodgy, as much as ive wanted a early TA i just dont see them as a 60K
motor, no way are they twice the car my RT is, and im guessing you think likewise
great looking car without doubt but well over priced really!And no , im not interested in the slightest about investment of profit!
ive never made a bean on any of my cars, but ive always managed money back, because i put hour after hour into each one i build in a cushion , with my free labour,
Blimey if i factored in the labour the Challenger would owe me 80K plus
I remember having a conversation with a mate about this, he couldn't believe the time and dedication that was put into my 57 Bird,
lovely as it was , i was doing my brains with 100's of hours of free labour!
It wasn't till i pointed out that in his way he was doing the self same thing, his garden was pretty much perfect, a show piece, 100's of man hours, however his house was still worth the same as all the others in his road!
Cest la vie ...................................................
Going round in circles about selling the roadster, will still have 3 window but owned it for 12 years, it's not quick just feels it, genuine 32 model B not a kit car and would be hard to replace.
Sold plenty of cars reluctantly to buy the next one then found i preferred the one i sold although i think i know what i'm getting with the T/A.
The owner seems happy to wait,he's owned it since 2006 ,i bought mine in 2007 so he's on the wright side money wise even with the engine rebuild.
Charger up to £21k so getting there slowly ,the reserve is £30k but sometimes the owners drop the reserve near to the end ,
Funny how you like the 500 where most prefer 68/69 front ends,should work in your favour if you ever wanted one.
If your working days are cut would be good to finish the Challenger with all the extra bits you got and make it complete ,
I never feel the cars mine until i've added or taken away bits ,the 59 Caddy came with narrow white walls which irritated me beyond belief and couldn't wait to fit wide whites,made the exhaust just a little noisier after all it's a Caddy not a muscle car and lowered her a touch ,what a difference,looked twice as long.
Maybe your wright when you say when in doubt leave it out or he who dares wins ,which ones wright, depends how deep is your pockets are, i think the latter is ok if you are wealthy or at least comfortable with a well paid secure job as if it all goes pear shape you either won't miss the loss or at lease make it up eventually.
I'm bracing myself for a huge loss on a car i got so wrong,hasn't helped with Brexit and now Covid 19 making it almost unsaleable at the moment , maybe better to wait til next year to sell in the hope things might get better
Not looking forward. to selling the Ruby if the buyers are anything like the Sp 250 Dart which they will be, A repeat of undecided tweed Dads Army types. All lovely people but very frustrating when you are selling a British classic car ,
A different bread to yank buyers.
Might be worth trying Retro Rides,there's sometimes the odd yank on there,Not many yank buyers look on there so might be something worth the money also my son keeps showing me yanks on Face Book Market Place ,Just a thought.
Edited by rat rod on Tuesday 6th October 18:42
Sell the Austin, but hang on the Roadster, sounds a lovely thing, having two rods would be most rockabilly's dream!
We used to see quite of few of them at Bisley, Hay Ride i believe?
One of my relations used to be Ted, he's wheel chair bound now unfortunately , but still lives for the music and the vibe, shame this years been buggered as i promised we'd do a show or two with the Dodge,
Still hopefully were get out in 21???
And i know just how you feel regarding circles! sometimes i feel like a Hamster in a wheel!
So going to pass on the 500, realistically whatever i get its going to be an outside motor, so ratty is the name of the game!
And i love the idea of side pipes, one of the 396SS's we had years ago was fitted with Thrush side exhaust, retro or what!
The Mythical White TA from my past also had them, four tube collectors each side,then into huge flat black side mufflers, Mick did remove them and returned it to semi stock i think, it was well over 40 years ago LOL..................................
Ive finished the welding/patch panel work on the Ford, so now getting ready the Square the old girl up, plus ive got the Dart next month so ive got stuff to do while a look for a motor,
Having said that ive no idea how long these will take to do, being part time plus bus work, and if i get my knee op i'l be out till next year
newsatten said:
Sell the Austin, but hang on the Roadster, sounds a lovely thing, having two rods would be most rockabilly's dream!
We used to see quite of few of them at Bisley, Hay Ride i believe?
One of my relations used to be Ted, he's wheel chair bound now unfortunately , but still lives for the music and the vibe, shame this years been buggered as i promised we'd do a show or two with the Dodge,
Still hopefully were get out in 21???
And i know just how you feel regarding circles! sometimes i feel like a Hamster in a wheel!
So going to pass on the 500, realistically whatever i get its going to be an outside motor, so ratty is the name of the game!
And i love the idea of side pipes, one of the 396SS's we had years ago was fitted with Thrush side exhaust, retro or what!
The Mythical White TA from my past also had them, four tube collectors each side,then into huge flat black side mufflers, Mick did remove them and returned it to semi stock i think, it was well over 40 years ago LOL..................................
Ive finished the welding/patch panel work on the Ford, so now getting ready the Square the old girl up, plus ive got the Dart next month so ive got stuff to do while a look for a motor,
Having said that ive no idea how long these will take to do, being part time plus bus work, and if i get my knee op i'l be out till next year
Been to Bisley a couple of times ,great period venue for the Hayride,
Once they had to stop using it ,it kind of faded out ,a couple of people tried to resurrect it at different places but somehow it didn't work.
Like Ted the guys live the dream,they are lost in the 50's good and proper,They were a bit anal for the first couple of years , any rods with modern alloy wheels were relegated to the car park but that eased up later, They prefer the nostalgia look and not keen on metal flake show rods.
Don't think my look went down well ,long hair ,shorts and sandals opposed to turned up jeans,leather jackets uniform with quiffs , i've got all that gear but not in 30 degree's mid summer heat ,
It would be a shame to leave that 500 out in the winter and it's not small,even if you left the wrap on it will still get damp and the water would find it's way in for that length of time. Shame your boss couldn't put it under cover but i suppose you need it home to work on.
The auction is finishing tomorrow night so be interesting to see what it fetches,
I think by side pipes my son means the exhausts coming out in front of the rear wheels rather than the old skool Thrush side pipes i remember,
When's the knee op going to happen,hope it will give you time to finish the Ford and the Dart, Is that the Taunus you are still working on ,
When i was selling the Dart most people were scared off by the paintwork being glass fibre ,a little out of their depth.
The guy who bought it had them before so knew what he was getting into.
That's about it , see if the phone rings on the ad and brace myself for the Captain Mainwaring lookalikes to kick the tyres .
Edited by rat rod on Wednesday 7th October 01:13
Edited by rat rod on Wednesday 7th October 01:14
Edited by rat rod on Wednesday 7th October 01:16
Edited by rat rod on Thursday 8th October 15:40
Dont Panic!!!!!!
Yeah the Hay Ride thing looked fun, my shooting buddies and myself were shooting on Century Range on the 600 point, and the Rods and pickups etc would be cruising the range road behind the firing point, surreal or what,
Well ive already turned down on date for my Op! dont think they were overly impressed!
But it was two days before our daughter is due to give birth!
Im not putting my wife through that kind of stress! So now looking late November ish? well just have to wait now,
Somebody done well on the 500' just under 29K , got to be a deal, So there you go people Classic Yank muscle is still out there at almost affordable levels, Makes 60K wobbly Mustang's look very very overpriced!
Id loved to have had a go, but the time just not right given the position im currently in, and the reality is it would have turned into a ton of work as usual
No, the only way thats going to happen is when/if i found my TA!.............................................god willing ive one more in me,
And RR good luck with the Ruby, and the Tweeds lol...........................
Yeah the Hay Ride thing looked fun, my shooting buddies and myself were shooting on Century Range on the 600 point, and the Rods and pickups etc would be cruising the range road behind the firing point, surreal or what,
Well ive already turned down on date for my Op! dont think they were overly impressed!
But it was two days before our daughter is due to give birth!
Im not putting my wife through that kind of stress! So now looking late November ish? well just have to wait now,
Somebody done well on the 500' just under 29K , got to be a deal, So there you go people Classic Yank muscle is still out there at almost affordable levels, Makes 60K wobbly Mustang's look very very overpriced!
Id loved to have had a go, but the time just not right given the position im currently in, and the reality is it would have turned into a ton of work as usual
No, the only way thats going to happen is when/if i found my TA!.............................................god willing ive one more in me,
And RR good luck with the Ruby, and the Tweeds lol...........................
Edited by newsatten on Wednesday 7th October 21:45
newsatten said:
Dont Panic!!!!!!
Yeah the Hay Ride thing looked fun, my shooting buddies and myself were shooting on Century Range on the 600 point, and the Rods and pickups etc would be cruising the range road behind the firing point, surreal or what,
Well ive already turned down on date for my Op! dont think they were overly impressed!
But it was two days before our daughter is due to give birth!
Im not putting my wife through that kind of stress! So now looking late November ish? well just have to wait now,
Somebody done well on the 500' just under 29K , got to be a deal, So there you go people Classic Yank muscle is still out there at almost affordable levels, Makes 60K wobbly Mustang's look very very overpriced!
Id loved to have had a go, but the time just not right given the position im currently in, and the reality is it would have turned into a ton of work as usual
No, the only way thats going to happen is when/if i found my TA!.............................................god willing ive one more in me,
And RR good luck with the Ruby, and the Tweeds lol...........................
Don't panic, very funny.Yeah the Hay Ride thing looked fun, my shooting buddies and myself were shooting on Century Range on the 600 point, and the Rods and pickups etc would be cruising the range road behind the firing point, surreal or what,
Well ive already turned down on date for my Op! dont think they were overly impressed!
But it was two days before our daughter is due to give birth!
Im not putting my wife through that kind of stress! So now looking late November ish? well just have to wait now,
Somebody done well on the 500' just under 29K , got to be a deal, So there you go people Classic Yank muscle is still out there at almost affordable levels, Makes 60K wobbly Mustang's look very very overpriced!
Id loved to have had a go, but the time just not right given the position im currently in, and the reality is it would have turned into a ton of work as usual
No, the only way thats going to happen is when/if i found my TA!.............................................god willing ive one more in me,
And RR good luck with the Ruby, and the Tweeds lol...........................
Edited by newsatten on Wednesday 7th October 21:45
Ye i forgot you go shooting and Bisley 's a shooting range.
That was a bonus for you,shooting and having the Rods and yanks there at the same time.
My daughter and son worked for a posh holiday company who specialised in snow sports holidays in the Alps and sent them to Bisley for a weekend of training how to drive Land Rovers as they had to drive the company ones when there in all that snow and ice.
Considering the bidders don't know what's under the rap the Charger didn't do to bad,it's only i know how good that car is which would be a advantage if in the market for it .
As you say makes those Mustangs crazy expensive,I'm seeing more and more notch backs with asking prices of £25/£29k .
Sounds like you got enough on your plate at the moment what with your daughter just about to give birth , knee op and not knowing what's going on at work,
It never rains and all that. Still late November not to bad considering you turned a earlier date down and probably better timing for you just depends how much pain you are in..
I'm going to need all the luck i can get thanks, There's a surprising number Austin Sevens for sale,some look better than mine at similar money, If it don't sale i can see myself driving it to Garden Fetes next summer and have tea and cucumber sandwiches with the vicar, very English don't you think.
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The only thing is i don't think buyers will travel far for one of these so may get someone more local as the others are quite a distance away. .
Edited by rat rod on Thursday 8th October 01:57
Couple of great looking birds, The boots on the girl deffo look better than the ones on the TA
Some years back one of our Customers had a few 7's , One was a tiny box type, which he brought from Pinewood Studios , it was a prop car, no motor!
one was a hot rod type,an Ulster i believe?? i didnt really take much notice TBH, a tad to Postman Pat for me lol....................
I did Square and refinish his Morgan 3 Wheeler, that was quite fun, painted that in Bog Door Green , but thinking back i preferred them times
having different types through the workshop,
Sadly Paul passed and his cars were sold off by the family, none of his kids were interested in the older type motors,
Anyway getting back to Americans, see The Market is about to auction that Hideous 74 Challenger/Hellcat , a snip at 80K
Who in there right mind would actually buy something like that at any price , the mind boggles ...................
Just had a look on E Bay, theres a few nice motors but good grief theres some hugely over priced pooh as per,
newsatten said:
Couple of great looking birds, The boots on the girl deffo look better than the ones on the TA
Some years back one of our Customers had a few 7's , One was a tiny box type, which he brought from Pinewood Studios , it was a prop car, no motor!
one was a hot rod type,an Ulster i believe?? i didnt really take much notice TBH, a tad to Postman Pat for me lol....................
I did Square and refinish his Morgan 3 Wheeler, that was quite fun, painted that in Bog Door Green , but thinking back i preferred them times
having different types through the workshop,
Sadly Paul passed and his cars were sold off by the family, none of his kids were interested in the older type motors,
Anyway getting back to Americans, see The Market is about to auction that Hideous 74 Challenger/Hellcat , a snip at 80K
Who in there right mind would actually buy something like that at any price , the mind boggles ...................
Just had a look on E Bay, theres a few nice motors but good grief theres some hugely over priced pooh as per,
Are those a modern version of Daisy Mags,love the wide dish .
Looks like she wants to come down a bit at the rear,the T/A not the girl.
Bang on ,that's exactly what they are, the Box seven has a high square body hence the name and the Ulster looks like a scaled down boat tailed Aston Martin Ulster,
With my eclectic taste i've had a few vintage cars, love that era along with Spitfires and Lancasters unfortunately once i get them home i rarely drive them preferring to look and polish rather than drive them .
That 74 Challenger restomod Hellcat along with the 688 bhp supercharged 70 Mustang restomod also in the auction was for sale on P.H by SP Sports & Prestige in Knaresborough ,i think the Challenger was up for £125k ,can't remember how much the Mustang was but think it was about the same sort of money.
I think they may have had them on S.O.R and the owners taken them back and entered them in the auction as they are not on their web site anymore.
The Mustangs got a aluminium 4.6 with a 2.9 supercharger lump ,Must have been at a eye watering cost to build these cars .
I think i would rather have the original Challenger and a modern Hellcat or better still a Demon and a Shelby GT 350 R to go with either a Boss or 428 Cobra Jet Mustang , Would have cost near enough the same amount i would have a thought.
My son now works for the Docks and drives the cars on and off the boats,he's classed as a prestige driver ,one day he's driving Transit's,Honda's and Renault's then another day it's McLaren's ,Aston's,Bentley's and surprisingly Rolls Royce's ,I would have thought they would be containerised but he said the most fun he's had was driving several Hellcat's from the boat to the compound on a damp day ,and he gets paid it ,
Asked him were they Hellcats or Demons but he said i don't know ,i just got in and drove them mainly looking out of the side window opposed to the windscreen.
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Edited by rat rod on Friday 9th October 10:35
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