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P5BNij said:
It's probably because a lot of us in here have a fair spread of interests, so the knowledge just accumulates over time and has to come out somewhere, before we can get any more stuffed in between our ears! Aside from cars I have a lifelong interest in films, music, art, railway history and history in general but I doff my cap to you lot when it comes to the yank stuff. This week's Amazon shopping basket top ten includes books on Brian Jones era Rolling Stones, Indian Tantric / psychedelic art, pre-war Alfas, the West London Railway between Willesden and Clapham Junction (which I now drive trains over) and the DVD boxset of Department S, to replace the one I've already worn out 
No wonder you knew so much about Peter Wyngarde and his Bentley Continentals ,(proper coach built ones not those footballers rebodied VW Phaeten things ) when i went off thread as usual rattling on about what ever.
rat rod said:
P5BNij said:
It's probably because a lot of us in here have a fair spread of interests, so the knowledge just accumulates over time and has to come out somewhere, before we can get any more stuffed in between our ears! Aside from cars I have a lifelong interest in films, music, art, railway history and history in general but I doff my cap to you lot when it comes to the yank stuff. This week's Amazon shopping basket top ten includes books on Brian Jones era Rolling Stones, Indian Tantric / psychedelic art, pre-war Alfas, the West London Railway between Willesden and Clapham Junction (which I now drive trains over) and the DVD boxset of Department S, to replace the one I've already worn out
No wonder you knew so much about Peter Wyngarde and his Bentley Continentals ,(proper coach built ones not those footballers rebodied VW Phaeten things ) when i went off thread as usual rattling on about what ever.
That's where the film / TV / car stuff crosses over and it all becomes etched into the old grey cells, this often happens with some of my interests, they tend to overlap quite a bit. A good example here - at some point I'd like to hire the replica of John Lennon's psychedelic Phantom V, it would be an expensive day out unless the cost is shared by a chum or two, but it would certainly tick several boxes all at once.... (JP Fallon did the work on the original back in '67)....
Someone ought to post some more old yank stuff soon or we'll fall off the edge of the page....
rat rod said:
aeropilot said:
roscobbc said:
As RR said the sound of a Havard with its radial engine. Its the Corsairs, the Thunderbolts, Buffalo's all with the big radials that sound fantastic.
Big air-cooled radials do sound great.When I flew in the B-25J, the noise inside was an astonishing racket. The B-25 did have a reputation for being very noisy for the crews, and many ex-B-25 crews suffered hearing loss in later life compared to those that flew other aircraft. It was all down to the design of the engine nacelles and exhausts, which directed the sound straight through the fuselage sides into the crew areas!
When we sitting on the apron waiting to taxi out for take-off with the big R-2600's just at idle there were these enormous loud explosions that sound like someone was outside and hitting the fuselage side with a sledgehammer, and it was just the back fires in the exhaust collector rings being transmitted into the crew areas....
This photo of engine start-up after I had climbed onboard was taken by my good mate.
And this is looking at the side gun port past the .50cal MG as we were climbing out of NAS Moffat over San Francisco bay.
The view from the cramped confines of the tail gunner position
The view up the rear fuselage tunnel towards the tail gunner position, which you have to crawl along on hands and knees...with the exposed control cable pinging and moving back and forth as the tail elevators and rudders are operating
Looking forward from the rear gunners compartment over the top of the bomb bay (that big box) towards the cockpit, with pilot visible.
Taxing back into after landing past the fabulous and famous old Hangar One, built in the 1930's for the USN airship, USS Macon.
aeropilot said:
Not scary at all. Exciting yes, and humbling when thinking about the 21 year olds that flew the things in action 70 odd years before.
This photo of engine start-up after I had climbed onboard was taken by my good mate.
And this is looking at the side gun port past the .50cal MG as we were climbing out of NAS Moffat over San Francisco bay.
The view from the cramped confines of the tail gunner position
The view up the rear fuselage tunnel towards the tail gunner position, which you have to crawl along on hands and knees...with the exposed control cable pinging and moving back and forth as the tail elevators and rudders are operating
Looking forward from the rear gunners compartment over the top of the bomb bay (that big box) towards the cockpit, with pilot visible.
Taxing back into after landing past the fabulous and famous old Hangar One, built in the 1930's for the USN airship, USS Macon.
I find myself speechless looking at your photo's , What exciting things you have crammed in your life,This photo of engine start-up after I had climbed onboard was taken by my good mate.
And this is looking at the side gun port past the .50cal MG as we were climbing out of NAS Moffat over San Francisco bay.
The view from the cramped confines of the tail gunner position
The view up the rear fuselage tunnel towards the tail gunner position, which you have to crawl along on hands and knees...with the exposed control cable pinging and moving back and forth as the tail elevators and rudders are operating
Looking forward from the rear gunners compartment over the top of the bomb bay (that big box) towards the cockpit, with pilot visible.
Taxing back into after landing past the fabulous and famous old Hangar One, built in the 1930's for the USN airship, USS Macon.
Makes anything that i thought was exciting quite mundane, You are right i really do need to experience a fighter plane
and anyone else for that matter. Like most i've only been in static war planes at museums and even then feel nostalgic about what
it must have been like flying in these monsters so add the shattering noise and vibrations and the fact you are actually flying the
experience must be indescribable .
newsatten said:
good lord, how puka is that! and what a fabulous memory , your a lucky guy , i was blown away when we went round Duxford, but to actually get airborne in a pure piece of history, the stuff of dreams son
without doubt the best off topic yet!
I was lucky, as it didn't cost me anything, as NASA paid for it without doubt the best off topic yet!
P5BNij said:
Ha That's where the film / TV / car stuff crosses over and it all becomes etched into the old grey cells, this often happens with some of my interests, they tend to overlap quite a bit. A good example here - at some point I'd like to hire the replica of John Lennon's psychedelic Phantom V, it would be an expensive day out unless the cost is shared by a chum or two, but it would certainly tick several boxes all at once.... (JP Fallon did the work on the original back in '67)....
Someone ought to post some more old yank stuff soon or we'll fall off the edge of the page....
I knew someone had replicated the paintwork of John Lennens Rolls on a long wheel base Silver Clould which most people would That's where the film / TV / car stuff crosses over and it all becomes etched into the old grey cells, this often happens with some of my interests, they tend to overlap quite a bit. A good example here - at some point I'd like to hire the replica of John Lennon's psychedelic Phantom V, it would be an expensive day out unless the cost is shared by a chum or two, but it would certainly tick several boxes all at once.... (JP Fallon did the work on the original back in '67)....Someone ought to post some more old yank stuff soon or we'll fall off the edge of the page....
be fooled into the fact it is JL's car but didn't realise there was actually a Phantom that had been done as well,
How unique for your 60's /70's theme wedding or as you suggest a day out with expences shared,
Geoge Harrisons white Mercedes 600 S.W.B was sold on "Collecting Cars" this week for £145K plus 5% commission which
i thought was a bargain for a piece of Beatle history when consider what other pop memorabillia fetch such as guitars,
Just think of all the famous personalities and conversations that went on in that car.There's a interesting video on the car
including driving it on the "Collecting Cars" You Tube Channel.
rat rod said:
P5BNij said:
Ha That's where the film / TV / car stuff crosses over and it all becomes etched into the old grey cells, this often happens with some of my interests, they tend to overlap quite a bit. A good example here - at some point I'd like to hire the replica of John Lennon's psychedelic Phantom V, it would be an expensive day out unless the cost is shared by a chum or two, but it would certainly tick several boxes all at once.... (JP Fallon did the work on the original back in '67)....
Someone ought to post some more old yank stuff soon or we'll fall off the edge of the page....
I knew someone had replicated the paintwork of John Lennens Rolls on a long wheel base Silver Clould which most people would That's where the film / TV / car stuff crosses over and it all becomes etched into the old grey cells, this often happens with some of my interests, they tend to overlap quite a bit. A good example here - at some point I'd like to hire the replica of John Lennon's psychedelic Phantom V, it would be an expensive day out unless the cost is shared by a chum or two, but it would certainly tick several boxes all at once.... (JP Fallon did the work on the original back in '67)....Someone ought to post some more old yank stuff soon or we'll fall off the edge of the page....
be fooled into the fact it is JL's car but didn't realise there was actually a Phantom that had been done as well,
How unique for your 60's /70's theme wedding or as you suggest a day out with expences shared,
Geoge Harrisons white Mercedes 600 S.W.B was sold on "Collecting Cars" this week for £145K plus 5% commission which
i thought was a bargain for a piece of Beatle history when consider what other pop memorabillia fetch such as guitars,
Just think of all the famous personalities and conversations that went on in that car.There's a interesting video on the car
including driving it on the "Collecting Cars" You Tube Channel.
, along with an '80s Mini that was trying to be passed off as his '60s Mk1 Cooper S! The Beatles cars were many and varied and mostly supplied by Brian Epstein's company Brydor which he set up with chum Terry Doran, aka 'the man from the motor trade'. There are lots of myths and mistakes made in books and articles on their cars, a recent book on Minis said that John and George had their first acid trip in George's psychedelic Radford Cooper S but it's poppycock, it happened in a different Mk1 Mini he had in late '65 on the way home from a dinner party where their host slipped the dreaded lysergic into their coffee, George said in an interview years later that he drove them home as the drug kicked in and felt like he was doing 1000mph, he looked down at the speedo and he was doing 18mph! He didn't take delivery of the Radford until a few months later when it was black all over with black Shadolite glass all round, the same as John's, in fact they were both registered on the same day with consecutive numbers 'LGF 695D' and 'LGF 696D'. They weren't identical though, George's had VW Beetle tail lights fitted horizontally while John's had Aston DB4/5 rear lights (as did Paul's).Lennon passed his test in a white Mini 850 in 1965 and went out the next day and bought a metallic blue Ferrari 330GTC, he was a notoriously bad driver though and often had others chauffeuring him about. On the day that he passed the test there was a photo session in the car park at Abbey Road wit hJohn sitting in George Martin's Triumph Herald convertible. George was the real petrolhead of the band and as soon as the money started rolling in he went for it with an E-Type FHC, DB5, DB6, Ferrari 274GTB coming in quick succession, along with two Minis for himself (one was the Radford mentioned above), an orange Radford Mini for wife Patti and a dark blue Radford Mini for his brother. It's reckoned that he owned at least ninety cars in his lifetime. There's a nice bit of footage of John's Radford S at Abbey Road in December '66 taken when the four Beatles were interviewed by an ITN news crew as they turned up to work on Strawberry Fields Forever....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnkZY6DzXdI
Sometime during 1967 John's car went back to Radfords for a makeover which included a repaint into two tone cream over green and a hatchback conversion, it was last seen in 1968 and rumours of its fate have varied ever since. George's psychedelic Radford still belongs to his family and Paul's Aston Martin California sage green Radford and Ringo's Rolls Royce regal red Hooper hatchback were bought by FI chappie Christian Horner and his Mrs. Gerri Halliwell a couple of years ago.
Apologies for the geeky ramble but I love this sort of stuff!
P5BNij said:
rat rod said:
P5BNij said:
Ha That's where the film / TV / car stuff crosses over and it all becomes etched into the old grey cells, this often happens with some of my interests, they tend to overlap quite a bit. A good example here - at some point I'd like to hire the replica of John Lennon's psychedelic Phantom V, it would be an expensive day out unless the cost is shared by a chum or two, but it would certainly tick several boxes all at once.... (JP Fallon did the work on the original back in '67)....
Someone ought to post some more old yank stuff soon or we'll fall off the edge of the page....
I knew someone had replicated the paintwork of John Lennens Rolls on a long wheel base Silver Clould which most people would That's where the film / TV / car stuff crosses over and it all becomes etched into the old grey cells, this often happens with some of my interests, they tend to overlap quite a bit. A good example here - at some point I'd like to hire the replica of John Lennon's psychedelic Phantom V, it would be an expensive day out unless the cost is shared by a chum or two, but it would certainly tick several boxes all at once.... (JP Fallon did the work on the original back in '67)....Someone ought to post some more old yank stuff soon or we'll fall off the edge of the page....
be fooled into the fact it is JL's car but didn't realise there was actually a Phantom that had been done as well,
How unique for your 60's /70's theme wedding or as you suggest a day out with expences shared,
Geoge Harrisons white Mercedes 600 S.W.B was sold on "Collecting Cars" this week for £145K plus 5% commission which
i thought was a bargain for a piece of Beatle history when consider what other pop memorabillia fetch such as guitars,
Just think of all the famous personalities and conversations that went on in that car.There's a interesting video on the car
including driving it on the "Collecting Cars" You Tube Channel.
, along with an '80s Mini that was trying to be passed off as his '60s Mk1 Cooper S! The Beatles cars were many and varied and mostly supplied by Brian Epstein's company Brydor which he set up with chum Terry Doran, aka 'the man from the motor trade'. There are lots of myths and mistakes made in books and articles on their cars, a recent book on Minis said that John and George had their first acid trip in George's psychedelic Radford Cooper S but it's poppycock, it happened in a different Mk1 Mini he had in late '65 on the way home from a dinner party where their host slipped the dreaded lysergic into their coffee, George said in an interview years later that he drove them home as the drug kicked in and felt like he was doing 1000mph, he looked down at the speedo and he was doing 18mph! He didn't take delivery of the Radford until a few months later when it was black all over with black Shadolite glass all round, the same as John's, in fact they were both registered on the same day with consecutive numbers 'LGF 695D' and 'LGF 696D'. They weren't identical though, George's had VW Beetle tail lights fitted horizontally while John's had Aston DB4/5 rear lights (as did Paul's).Lennon passed his test in a white Mini 850 in 1965 and went out the next day and bought a metallic blue Ferrari 330GTC, he was a notoriously bad driver though and often had others chauffeuring him about. On the day that he passed the test there was a photo session in the car park at Abbey Road wit hJohn sitting in George Martin's Triumph Herald convertible. George was the real petrolhead of the band and as soon as the money started rolling in he went for it with an E-Type FHC, DB5, DB6, Ferrari 274GTB coming in quick succession, along with two Minis for himself (one was the Radford mentioned above), an orange Radford Mini for wife Patti and a dark blue Radford Mini for his brother. It's reckoned that he owned at least ninety cars in his lifetime. There's a nice bit of footage of John's Radford S at Abbey Road in December '66 taken when the four Beatles were interviewed by an ITN news crew as they turned up to work on Strawberry Fields Forever....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnkZY6DzXdI
Sometime during 1967 John's car went back to Radfords for a makeover which included a repaint into two tone cream over green and a hatchback conversion, it was last seen in 1968 and rumours of its fate have varied ever since. George's psychedelic Radford still belongs to his family and Paul's Aston Martin California sage green Radford and Ringo's Rolls Royce regal red Hooper hatchback were bought by FI chappie Christian Horner and his Mrs. Gerri Halliwell a couple of years ago.
Apologies for the geeky ramble but I love this sort of stuff!
These young lads whether the Beatles or Stones going from humble backgrounds and catapulted into fame ,no holds bared getting stoned in
their newly required stately manor houses, Aston Martin's,Rolls Royce's ,Facel Vega's cars that only the gentry and old money
could once buy, Todays pop stars get little or no mention these days outside their careers,not sure if they leave boring lifes or things
are kept out of the press,
As i have already mentioned stories like when Bobby Whitlock ,the key board player fron Eric Claptons group Derek & Domlnos groupe
rolled his Daytona in Virginia Water in the early hours on his way home from a rave at Keith Moons place, I've seen the photos of the Ferrari
and he shouldn't have got out alive with the roof resting on the top of the seats, the photo's are on the internet somewhere but i can't
seem to find them again.He then escaped out of the hospital window before the police arrived , Excessive bad behaviour seemed to be
part of being a rock legend in that era. the likes of we may never seen again,
Edited by rat rod on Friday 30th July 21:42
rat rod said:
As i have already mentioned stories like when Bobby Whitlock ,the key board player fron Eric Claptons group Derek & Domlnos groupe
Vaguely getting back on topic, given the mention of Clapton, who has been heavily influenced in the car ownership dept by fellow guitar legend, Jeff Beck, who is seriously into his hot rods, and Jeff introduced Clapton to famed San Francisco hot rod builder Roy Brizio. Brizio's have now built about half a dozen hot rods for Clapton over the past couple of decades, so that's well over a $1m dollars worth.Anyway, whenever I go over to San Fran to visit my best mate who emigrated there nearly 20 years ago, I always pop into Brizio's to have a wander around the workshop and have a chat with the guys, and back in 2004 on my first trip there (and the only one with the now ex-missus) Brizio's were just finishing off this baby blue '32 roadster for Clapton.
P5BNij said:
rat rod said:
roscobbc said:
rat rod said:
I can't keep up with you guys, Collectively this forum is a minefield of knowledge,
No matter what subject comes up there's always tons of information ,beats me how you remember it all.
Hmmmm - me, my mind is full of inconsiquential information, most of it is crap and of no relevence to anything whatsoever. I bow down to your knowledge and experience of so many cars No matter what subject comes up there's always tons of information ,beats me how you remember it all.
haved loved at all " should have something to do with woman i gather but in my case it's motor cars probably no different to
most of us on here. My car history is quite modest compared to a few people i know having as many as 20 or 30 cars in there collection and
as many bikes which they've owned for a number of years. You only need two things,space and money.
.
some bloke said:
I remember the father of one of my friends telling us, as daft youngsters, that if you are interested in anything, learn as much as you can about it, because it costs nothing to carry knowledge around. I often get mini-obsessions and will scour the internet or read about things that take my fancy. It may just be for a few days (HMS Erebus recently) or years. (hot rods, photography history etc)
My interest every since i can remember has been cars,having eclectic taste could be anything on two or four wheels,But the older i get i find my interest wanders to other things that even surprised me ,i think mainly helped and driven by the
internet, Having been surrounded by car books and magazines it was hard to be distracted by other things but with a touch of a key
i found i was finding new interest in other things besides cars can't be a bad thing really .
If interested i soak it up like a sponge but forget within minutes if not.
rat rod said:
SRT Hellcat said:
absolutely incredible
part of my says I would love to do something like that.
The other part of me says I would be scared stiff
Says he who drives a 200+ mph 850bhp + Hellcat part of my says I would love to do something like that.
The other part of me says I would be scared stiff
Guessing on the bhp, sorry if i got it wrong
Edited by rat rod on Friday 30th July 10:58
rat rod said:
some bloke said:
I remember the father of one of my friends telling us, as daft youngsters, that if you are interested in anything, learn as much as you can about it, because it costs nothing to carry knowledge around. I often get mini-obsessions and will scour the internet or read about things that take my fancy. It may just be for a few days (HMS Erebus recently) or years. (hot rods, photography history etc)
My interest every since i can remember has been cars,having eclectic taste could be anything on two or four wheels,But the older i get i find my interest wanders to other things that even surprised me ,i think mainly helped and driven by the
internet, Having been surrounded by car books and magazines it was hard to be distracted by other things but with a touch of a key
i found i was finding new interest in other things besides cars can't be a bad thing really .
If interested i soak it up like a sponge but forget within minutes if not.
aeropilot said:
SRT Hellcat said:
I am not great with heights
Neither am I..... 
SRT Hellcat said:
rat rod said:
SRT Hellcat said:
absolutely incredible
part of my says I would love to do something like that.
The other part of me says I would be scared stiff
Says he who drives a 200+ mph 850bhp + Hellcat part of my says I would love to do something like that.
The other part of me says I would be scared stiff
Guessing on the bhp, sorry if i got it wrong
Edited by rat rod on Friday 30th July 10:58
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