Why so high?

[roscobbc]

Had a message re. my Vette for sale - would I be interested in this Buick, currently on Ebay. TBH a fantastic looking thing and a great 'left field' alternative to a '55 Chevy. I like the colour - the subtle two toning separated by chrome works well......not so keen on white interiors though. Unfortunately just not what I'm looking for. ( and TBH air ride systems worry me re. long term servicability and quality of ride)

[aeropilot]

roscobbc said:

Had a message re. my Vette for sale - would I be interested in this Buick, currently on Ebay. TBH a fantastic looking thing and a great 'left field' alternative to a '55 Chevy. I like the colour - the subtle two toning separated by chrome works well......not so keen on white interiors though. Unfortunately just not what I'm looking for. ( and TBH air ride systems worry me re. long term servicability and quality of ride)

Looks great - apart from the hideous wheels and tyres

That's crying out for a set of white whites on Astro's, Radir's or chrome reversed rims.

Motorama was saying about the air ride on his '58 Bonny.

I've been in a '61 Caddy out in California that had air-ride (on Astro's and wide whites, so no silly rims and tyres) and I thought as a passenger, that it rode very well.

I'm not sure I could live with the white interior either, especially if its all vinyl...!!

[LeighW]

roscobbc said:

Had a message re. my Vette for sale - would I be interested in this Buick, currently on Ebay. TBH a fantastic looking thing and a great 'left field' alternative to a '55 Chevy. I like the colour - the subtle two toning separated by chrome works well......not so keen on white interiors though. Unfortunately just not what I'm looking for. ( and TBH air ride systems worry me re. long term servicability and quality of ride)

Is it a manual? If so, NaT likes a white interior and has money burning a hole, maybe there's a deal to be had?

[newsatten]

Cant beat a good’ ol porn star interior!
But these things just do nowt for me,

If I was better off I’d be looking at Rosco’s Vette
Epic machine, just need a fabulous refinish in Fathom Green, and big collector polished Side pipes,

Killer looks and killer performance, such a shame I’m poor
and old !

[rat rod]

P5BNij said:

rat rod said:

C3 Vette caught my eye today on C&C today

70 manual 350bhp car.silver paintwork really suits it well.

£30K beginning to look the norm these days.

https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1454278


Not many phots and not much info in the ad, but it's definitely a looker

Edited to add a tempting diversion...

https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1123232

Edited by P5BNij on Thursday 12th May 13:21

Edited by P5BNij on Thursday 12th May 13:21

The link to the C3's not working,well not on mine anyway.

You certainly know how to upset someone

Not sure if it is the Countach that Mike Pullen restored around 6 years ago ,

I just got there as he was loading it up on the trailer to go back to it's owner.

If it is it was blue with tan trim originally ,It would turn up at Mikes Carrera Sport

track days back in the 80's/90's at Goodwood and Castle Coombe, the guy who owned it then

would turn up in his Daytona,308 GTB or Integrally as well as the Countach ,looked like he was out of a heavy metal

rock band, Spoke to him a few times ,he said he did a paper round as a kid and in one of the driveways

was a Daytona ,he said then that one day he will own one but when some years later he went to see one

that was advertised it turned out to be the very same car,that was a omen if there ever was one.

Told me some of the escapades he got up to in the cars like pulling one of many blondes in the London

night spots and stopping at her place to get her passport and driving the Daytona and her to Rome that

night just because he can. There's a old video titled "The Orian Express London to Venice racing challenge

1991" on YT ,This guy who's name is also Mike is in the video racing his Daytona along side Mike Pullen who's in his

low body Countach. Quality isn't brillent but worth a look, real boys stuff.Both Mikes look like something out of the Mexican cartel.

Sorry for the not so short deviation into none yanks

PS Title might be "Orient Express race against super cars" not what i said,

Edited by rat rod on Thursday 12th May 17:21

[roscobbc]

I think it looks absolutely fabulous with the wheels - wouldn't be saying the same thing about it if the car was bone stock - then, yes stock type wheels) - its an auto. Have no experience with air ride systems but I'm guessing the ride quality of a classic Caddi that had the optional air syspension would be first rate. Had a buddy years ago with a '60 (I think) Caddi sedan that had the air ride........it leaked. If left for longer than an hour or so it would be on the bump stops.......looked really cool like that. Has anyone seen the compressor on one of these? 'kin great big thing - looks more like a donkey engine. Still took 10 minutes or so to pump-up to normal ride height. Never went in it but always looked like it was 'floating' when out on the road - just as any 'full size' should.

[roscobbc]

newsatten said:

Cant beat a good’ ol porn star interior!
But these things just do nowt for me,

If I was better off I’d be looking at Rosco’s Vette
Epic machine, just need a fabulous refinish in Fathom Green, and big collector polished Side pipes,

Killer looks and killer performance, such a shame I’m poor
and old !

Vette would be better off with someone like yourself who 'understands' the old stuff and be far less likely to wrap it around a lamppost the first time the secondaries kick-in!

[rat rod]

aeropilot said:

roscobbc said:

Had a message re. my Vette for sale - would I be interested in this Buick, currently on Ebay. TBH a fantastic looking thing and a great 'left field' alternative to a '55 Chevy. I like the colour - the subtle two toning separated by chrome works well......not so keen on white interiors though. Unfortunately just not what I'm looking for. ( and TBH air ride systems worry me re. long term servicability and quality of ride)

Looks great - apart from the hideous wheels and tyres

That's crying out for a set of white whites on Astro's, Radir's or chrome reversed rims.

Motorama was saying about the air ride on his '58 Bonny.

I've been in a '61 Caddy out in California that had air-ride (on Astro's and wide whites, so no silly rims and tyres) and I thought as a passenger, that it rode very well.

I'm not sure I could live with the white interior either, especially if its all vinyl...!!

Everything aero said ,

Had airride on my previous Le Camino and it was fine,gave a lovely ride a little like a DS Citroen on

mid range height , Party piece was dropping it in the weeds until the grass caught on fire at one of the meeting,

[rat rod]

newsatten said:

Spoke to the guy selling the Yellow 340 Duster
this morning, sounds a very level car
Tempted to have a look
I know I shouldn’t even be looking! But it’s a 4 Speed Hipo 340 , smallish and a 4 Speed!
It really does tick most of the boxes apart from being a tad boring to look at , but it’s a 4 speed

Vulnerable i should say so,a danger to yourself and your wallet.

Having no money to spend never stops us looking at what could be if money was in the bank ,if a little frustrating

so now you can look with intent which is joyous and dangerous all at the same time.

I know because i accidently left a deposit on another car yesterday, don't know how that happened

[Motorama]

aeropilot said:

roscobbc said:

Had a message re. my Vette for sale - would I be interested in this Buick, currently on Ebay. TBH a fantastic looking thing and a great 'left field' alternative to a '55 Chevy. I like the colour - the subtle two toning separated by chrome works well......not so keen on white interiors though. Unfortunately just not what I'm looking for. ( and TBH air ride systems worry me re. long term servicability and quality of ride)

Looks great - apart from the hideous wheels and tyres

That's crying out for a set of white whites on Astro's, Radir's or chrome reversed rims.

Motorama was saying about the air ride on his '58 Bonny.

I've been in a '61 Caddy out in California that had air-ride (on Astro's and wide whites, so no silly rims and tyres) and I thought as a passenger, that it rode very well.

I'm not sure I could live with the white interior either, especially if its all vinyl...!!

The Buick looks smart but not being a particularly popular model limits it’s appeal, it was for sale not long ago with another owner, on Detroit Steels, another hideous wheel. I’d choose a nice period custom type hubcap every time

I’m not sure about the ride on my Bonny, it seems a bit firm to me, maybe I need to drive it a bit lower to the ground with less pressure in the bags, I feel I will be repairing the exhaust often then though. I took a deposit on it yesterday, guy that bought a 58 Buick Roadmaster Hardtop from me last year took a shine to it.

[newsatten]

roscobbc said:

newsatten said:

Cant beat a good’ ol porn star interior!
But these things just do nowt for me,

If I was better off I’d be looking at Rosco’s Vette
Epic machine, just need a fabulous refinish in Fathom Green, and big collector polished Side pipes,

Killer looks and killer performance, such a shame I’m poor
and old !

Vette would be better off with someone like yourself who 'understands' the old stuff and be far less likely to wrap it around a lamppost the first time the secondaries kick-in!

I’d love it , the cars a true icon
Absolutely nuts someone’s not ripped your arm off,

Us old folk understand just what the car is,
But I fear we’re in short supply as buyers now so it’s the new breed of numptys who know dick !

I regret selling mine now , not for the obvious reasons but cos I ain’t got the time or the energy to go again,
And just can’t afford the costs of a car already done ,

If you’ve any doubt however small keep it another year , then another year till you are

Edited by newsatten on Thursday 12th May 18:32

[rat rod]

roscobbc said:

Vette would be better off with someone like yourself who 'understands' the old stuff and be far less likely to wrap it around a lamppost the first time the secondaries kick-in!

Think you made a rod for your own back building that monster engine in as much now finding the right

buyer who appreciates what you have put into it and will pay a premium over a standard car ,

Still be a lot cheaper for them than buying and modifying a C3 and without all the heartache that goes with it.

Trouble is the new generation of yank buyers seem to happy to potter to the shows while the wifey prepares the picnic,

Much prefer modified cars every time knowing the cost to build but always struggle to find the likeminded buyer

There's a lot of chancers out there at the moment so newsatten was lucky to get a serious buyer who just wanted to get on

with it avoiding all the tyre kickers that will annoy especially if not fussed about selling anyway.

Reduced the 430 this week by £5K to bring it down to just below £80K and wasn't long before i had a offer of £10K less than

the new price ,wouldn't mind but another 430 same year with higher mileage was listed at £90K last night,

Maybe i should have put the price up instead of down ???

When it does sell it will be easy if that's what the buyer is looking for as there's none like it for sale at the moment.

Edited by rat rod on Thursday 12th May 20:31

[roscobbc]

rat rod said:

Think you made a rod for your own back building that monster engine in as much now finding the right

buyer who appreciates what you have put into it and will pay a premium over a standard car ,

Still be a lot cheaper for them than buying and moifying a C3 and without all the heartache that goes with it.

Trouble is the new generation of yank buyers seem to happy to potter to the shows while the wifey prepares the picnic,

I'm sure you are right RR. It was my 'idea' to build-up an engine with at least (or more) power than the legendary L88 powered Vette.....but without all the drivability issues that something like that may have. And generally I succeeded in that aim. However reality is......stick a diesel, Rover V8 or Granada lump up front and provided you don't lift the hood 95% of people would have have a clue - and with so many people driving like 'pussies' who would realise?

Next car to 'sort out' and move-on at some point will be 'er indoors's '98 MGF 1.8i Abingdon limited edition - only ever done 1200 miles from new and then stored since.........

[aeropilot]

rat rod said:

roscobbc said:

Vette would be better off with someone like yourself who 'understands' the old stuff and be far less likely to wrap it around a lamppost the first time the secondaries kick-in!

Think you made a rod for your own back building that monster engine in as much now finding the right

buyer who appreciates what you have put into it and will pay a premium over a standard car ,

Still be a lot cheaper for them than buying and moifying a C3 and without all the heartache that goes with it.

Trouble is the new generation of yank buyers seem to happy to potter to the shows while the wifey prepares the picnic,

Much prefer modified cars every time knowing the cost to build but always struggle to find the likeminded buyer

From what I've seen at shows in recent years, the 'younger' owners of yanks I have noticed have been driving pretty much stock original, or stock restored cars, not modified ones.
I think that's the difference between the 'old guard' yank owners that have owned because of doing a bit of strip racing (street racing in the old days) and the newer breed where, its as much about protecting ones 'investment' rather than rolling burnouts on Chelsea bridge on a Saturday night, back in the good old days.

[P5BNij]

rat rod said:

P5BNij said:

rat rod said:

C3 Vette caught my eye today on C&C today

70 manual 350bhp car.silver paintwork really suits it well.

£30K beginning to look the norm these days.

https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1454278


Not many phots and not much info in the ad, but it's definitely a looker

Edited to add a tempting diversion...

https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1123232

Edited by P5BNij on Thursday 12th May 13:21

Edited by P5BNij on Thursday 12th May 13:21

The link to the C3's not working,well not on mine anyway.

You certainly know how to upset someone

Not sure if it is the Countach that Mike Pullen restored around 6 years ago ,

I just got there as he was loading it up on the trailer to go back to it's owner.

If it is it was blue with tan trim originally ,It would turn up at Mikes Carrera Sport

track days back in the 80's/90's at Goodwood and Castle Coombe, the guy who owned it then

would turn up in his Daytona,308 GTB or Integrally as well as the Countach ,looked like he was out of a heavy metal

rock band, Spoke to him a few times ,he said he did a paper round as a kid and in one of the driveways

was a Daytona ,he said then that one day he will own one but when some years later he went to see one

that was advertised it turned out to be the very same car,that was a omen if there ever was one.

Told me some of the escapades he got up to in the cars like pulling one of many blondes in the London

night spots and stopping at her place to get her passport and driving the Daytona and her to Rome that

night just because he can. There's a old video titled "The Orian Express London to Venice racing challenge

1991" on YT ,This guy who's name is also Mike is in the video racing his Daytona along side Mike Pullen who's in his

low body Countach. Quality isn't brillent but worth a look, real boys stuff.Both Mikes look like something out of the Mexican cartel.

Sorry for the not so short deviation into none yanks

PS Title might be "Orient Express race against super cars" not what i said,

Edited by rat rod on Thursday 12th May 17:21

Not sure why the C3 link didn't work, mind you I've been having PC / keyboard problems for most of the day. Nice car anyway.

Yes I'm pretty sure it's the same Countach you mention, previously blue and tan, there are some photos of it over in one of the Lambo threads. I love the lines of the original LP400, such a shame they only built 150, such a shame I can't afford one too! Also on c&c is a Countach replica with a yank V8 in the back.

Now then, what's this other car you accidentally put a deposit on....?

[rat rod]

roscobbc said:

I'm sure you are right RR. It was my 'idea' to build-up an engine with at least (or more) power than the legendary L88 powered Vette.....but without all the drivability issues that something like that may have. And generally I succeeded in that aim. However reality is......stick a diesel, Rover V8 or Granada lump up front and provided you don't lift the hood 95% of people would have have a clue - and with so many people driving like 'pussies' who would realise?

Next car to 'sort out' and move-on at some point will be 'er indoors's '98 MGF 1.8i Abingdon limited edition - only ever done 1200 miles from new and then stored since.........

Wow,you kept quiet about the MGF, how on earth do you put a value on that, always thought them under valued

after saying that there's a guy in the west country who specialies in them and asked big money .

I bought my daughter one years ago and she loved it and had no problems with it.

If you have this desire to build your own spec engine and being the nature of the hobby it has to be done,

Wish i had built my own yank but being lazy i always bought them done and changed what i didn't like or want.

Got my fingers burnt on the GTB ,spent almost twice what i paid for it putting it on the track and now not a easy car to drive on the road.

and probably narrowed my selling market as well,Don't plan on selling it any time soon so bit immaterial really but you never know
things change. With a 155K on the clock it's probably worth more broken up.

Edited by rat rod on Friday 13th May 02:26

[roscobbc]

rat rod said:

roscobbc said:

I'm sure you are right RR. It was my 'idea' to build-up an engine with at least (or more) power than the legendary L88 powered Vette.....but without all the drivability issues that something like that may have. And generally I succeeded in that aim. However reality is......stick a diesel, Rover V8 or Granada lump up front and provided you don't lift the hood 95% of people would have have a clue - and with so many people driving like 'pussies' who would realise?

Next car to 'sort out' and move-on at some point will be 'er indoors's '98 MGF 1.8i Abingdon limited edition - only ever done 1200 miles from new and then stored since.........

Wow,you kept quiet about the MGF, how on earth do you put a value on that, always thought them under valued

after saying that there's a guy in the west country who specialies in them and asked big money .

I bought my daughter one years ago and she loved it and had no problems with it.

If you have this desire to build your own spec engine and being the nature of the hobby it has to be done,

Wish i had built my own yank but being lazy i always bought them done and changed what i didn't like or want.

Got my fingers burnt on the GTB ,spent almost twice what i paid for it putting it on the track and now not a easy car to drive on the road.

and probably narrowed my selling market as well,Don't plan on selling it any time soon so bit immaterial really but you never things

change. With a 155K on the clock it's probably worth more broken up.

Edited by rat rod on Thursday 12th May 21:01

Buddy of mine sold a 512 with that sort of mileage on it some years back - didn't get the best of money. Then bought a brand new Shelby GT500 which he still has and uses regularly - believe thats up to 180K miles or so.
MGF's were always 'put down' by most people - hairdressers cars they said and worth nothing (so they all said). The supposed head gasket issues (perhaps like Dolomites and Stags and no doubt some others) were probably owned by unsympathetic owners who would be likely to ignore temp gauges and other telltales signs, drive them into the ground before complaining bitterly.

[roscobbc]

Came on the CCCUK forum today - one of our members is advertising this for another member - don't know if thats a good price or not - created some comments about how well this guy looks after his cars.

A long standing Corvette Club member has an extremely clean 2008 SRT8 Dodge Challenger for sale (see pictures). The car is truly exceptional and possibly one of the best examples of its type in the country. It has 24,000 original miles on the odometer, M.O.T. has just been completed and covered until April/May 2023. This is the first edition Challenger and as I understand it, one of the first registered in the UK. I cannot praise the condition of this car enough. Asking price is £32,000 and enquiries to Adrian on 07977 383456

[rat rod]

roscobbc said:

Came on the CCCUK forum today - one of our members is advertising this for another member - don't know if thats a good price or not - created some comments about how well this guy looks after his cars.

A long standing Corvette Club member has an extremely clean 2008 SRT8 Dodge Challenger for sale (see pictures). The car is truly exceptional and possibly one of the best examples of its type in the country. It has 24,000 original miles on the odometer, M.O.T. has just been completed and covered until April/May 2023. This is the first edition Challenger and as I understand it, one of the first registered in the UK. I cannot praise the condition of this car enough. Asking price is £32,000 and enquiries to Adrian on 07977 383456

Lovely low mileage and condition , not sure what there worth , this one should be worth that kind of money

although seen them cheaper but will be higher mileage and not in the same condition,

One for newsatten maybe , certainly more useable on our grid locked roads and more economical

than the early Challengers, ice cold air and still driving a American car, Am i selling it to you newsatten???

In one hand and out the other ,only way before you start aquandering it on sensible things like three piece suits

Funny talking about Challengers, i was at Goodwood yesterday ,a nice eclectic mix of cars doing a 105 db rack day ,

Some oldies ,like a Anglia,MK2 Escort both serious track cars and a ex touring car BMW M3 E30 plus a few Mini's along side the usual

modern 911's , Lotus and Ferrari's, a Hellcat was doing well on the track,surprised he didn't get black flagged as he was noisy,

more than the permitted 105 db i would say,didn't realise they were so big and wide,sat next to a Osca India V8 Aston it dwarfed

it and there not compact either.

Your mate gets around ,can't believe the miles he's put on the Boxer and Shelby, must live in the car almost.

Wouldn't like to have paid for his petrol bill,

Edited by rat rod on Friday 13th May 03:05

[rat rod]

newsatten said:

Spoke to the guy selling the Yellow 340 Duster
this morning, sounds a very level car
Tempted to have a look
I know I shouldn’t even be looking! But it’s a 4 Speed Hipo 340 , smallish and a 4 Speed!
It really does tick most of the boxes apart from being a tad boring to look at , but it’s a 4 speed

I had a yellow 318 Dart but never really warmed to it ,a little to square , the Demon being slighly bigger

and has more shape to it, Been for sale for a while so may be worth a cheeky offer