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aeropilot said:
Taller gears with a PG might not work too well, as most PG cars already run tall gears....?
You can keep the originality of the 2-speed PG slushmatic............and still add overdrive with a Gear Vendors overdrive unit on the back of the original PG box.
https://www.gearvendors.com/index.html
Thank for that link - I'll have a look through later. I don't think they are that high atm - I am doing 3000 rpm at 60 so a drop to 2500 or less would b good.You can keep the originality of the 2-speed PG slushmatic............and still add overdrive with a Gear Vendors overdrive unit on the back of the original PG box.
https://www.gearvendors.com/index.html
Apologies for being the profit of doom about the fuel prices
But most of these monsters are owned by ordinary work folk,
Ok I know we know the “Tweeds” are in the loop but most are just normal guys and girls,
Everyone is being squeezed with everything we buy or use
It’s now painful to run one of these things,
Smiles per gallon are very hard to keep when 100 quids worth is gone on one trip!
It’s horses fit corses if my wages had doubled in the last 5 years I’d be fine with it!
All the talk of axle changers and over drives make it sound easy, till one’s finds out the costs involved!
1000’s nothing is cheap!
But most of these monsters are owned by ordinary work folk,
Ok I know we know the “Tweeds” are in the loop but most are just normal guys and girls,
Everyone is being squeezed with everything we buy or use
It’s now painful to run one of these things,
Smiles per gallon are very hard to keep when 100 quids worth is gone on one trip!
It’s horses fit corses if my wages had doubled in the last 5 years I’d be fine with it!
All the talk of axle changers and over drives make it sound easy, till one’s finds out the costs involved!
1000’s nothing is cheap!
No probs Newsatten.
I had an Mopar axle fitting business in Ashford for ten years!
Not one customer lol...
But I could do hundreds now, fitting all those 2.76 gears back in lol..
Life is all about timing, always a 'day late and a dollar short'...
My Moparmate in 1983 sold his 69 Charger because he couldn't afford the GAS!
I sold my 69 in 1993 cos I couldn't afford the GAS!
Not selling my 69 this time, I just like cuddling her lol.
I had an Mopar axle fitting business in Ashford for ten years!
Not one customer lol...
But I could do hundreds now, fitting all those 2.76 gears back in lol..
Life is all about timing, always a 'day late and a dollar short'...
My Moparmate in 1983 sold his 69 Charger because he couldn't afford the GAS!
I sold my 69 in 1993 cos I couldn't afford the GAS!
Not selling my 69 this time, I just like cuddling her lol.
Edited by Gtxxjon on Tuesday 24th May 13:01
There has got to be a 'point' with a tall axle and/or overdrive tx where (and not counting £££'s) there are minimal gains as the engine perhaps is all too often going to be running below its optimum rpm for best economy. The logic of efi perhaps makes sense - but mpi rather than tbi. Even a change of cam to perhaps a RV type cam will make a difference.......unfortunately one will probably need to accumulate tens of thousands of miles before any overall financial benefits are seen.....
rat rod said:
P5BNij said:
I've got quite a few yank shows / gatherings pencilled in over the next few months, some of which actually coincide with me having a day off! Even after all the covid stuff there are several weekends where there are at least two or three different shows on around the country so there's plenty of choice. Got a few Mini ones jotted down too which the other half likes to go to. As for the Italians, there's a smallish but very good one at the Sharnbrook Hotel in Bedfordshire on 5th June, handily it's right on the A6 main road but sadly it clashes with the Mini one at Gaydon. There's also the annual Midlands Italian Car Day (MITCAR) in Derbyshire on 19th June which I'll try and get too, it's pre-booked tickets only but well worth a look...
https://www.aroc-uk.com/eastmids/mitcar.html
I've been to a couple of these MITCAR dos and they're really good, everything from Fiat 500s to rare exotica turns up. Still got the 430 haven't you...?
I also keep meaning to go to some of the single marque shows at Stanford Hall which only ten miles away, we always go to the Mini one in September but somehow I keep missing the Italian / Porsche / VW etc shows.
Thanks for the info, the midlands meeting is just about doable if not much else on that day nearer home ,https://www.aroc-uk.com/eastmids/mitcar.html
I've been to a couple of these MITCAR dos and they're really good, everything from Fiat 500s to rare exotica turns up. Still got the 430 haven't you...?
I also keep meaning to go to some of the single marque shows at Stanford Hall which only ten miles away, we always go to the Mini one in September but somehow I keep missing the Italian / Porsche / VW etc shows.
Edited by P5BNij on Monday 23 May 15:58
Got the Ferrari owners club at Goodwood next week right on my doorstep .
Worth going just to take the piss out of the hooray Henry's in their their his and hers Ferrari's caps,jackets
and umbrella's ,
Still got the 430 but "Collecting Cars" are having another go at selling it ,going live tomorrow , can feel another
shopping trip coming on if successful ,
Just had my Beaulieu tickets confirmed ,only 15 minutes up the road so need to go to that one.
Just asked about the Italian meetings as i thought you may be taking the masa to one of them and we could have a meet up.
If the 430 goes, what's next on your shopping list.... another yank or something European and mildly exotic...?
I never thought I'd ever see a yank outdo a Miura at the auctions, that '69 Daytona Hemi is bonkers money! As GTX says I doubt if the new owner will use it in anger, a pity really - in the parallel universe where I could afford a £1m Miura or LP400 Countach I'd still want to use them, no matter what their 'value' is.
roscobbc said:
There has got to be a 'point' with a tall axle and/or overdrive tx where (and not counting 's) there are minimal gains as the engine perhaps is all too often going to be running below its optimum rpm for best economy. The logic of efi perhaps makes sense - but mpi rather than tbi. Even a change of cam to perhaps a RV type cam will make a difference.......unfortunately one will probably need to accumulate tens of thousands of miles before any overall financial benefits are seen.....
Yes, agreed - will the £££ saved over the time I own the car justify the expense of fitting o/d or different gears? Taller gears would probably be the cheaper & easier option. It's a 10 bolt, but had all new bearings and a posi fitted a wee while ago. A stump puller cam and better heads are on the 'one day' list - I had plans of putting a 383 in but buying a holiday home blew the toy budget.P5BNij said:
I never thought I'd ever see a yank outdo a Miura at the auctions, that '69 Daytona Hemi is bonkers money!
It's not exactly an unusual occurrence...!!They made over 900 Miura's after all.......they are relatively speaking, ten a penny.
They only made 22 x 4-speed Hemi powered Charger Daytona's.
And at the Mecum auction back in January the legendary Hirohata '51 Mercury sold for nearly double the Daytona price, when it sold for $2.145m......and at the same auction, the prototype '65 Shelby GT350R sold for $3.75m.......
Rarity doesn't always mean value!
They made 503 Daytona's in 1969.
They made 392 Charger 500's in 1968...(69 model)
They made 26 hemi Daytona 4-speeds.
They made 25 hemi 500 4-speeds...
I had the pleasure of working on Bretts Daytona back in 2005.
He said it was a ''bad buy and it would cost way to much to fix''.
It was an 'ex track car' and was badly beat up...
At the time he was probably right...
A few years ago Barrett-Jackson begged him to sell it, how times change?
They bought his whole car collection of over 50 cars...
The date coded steel wheels were $5000 for four...(no tires lol).
They made 503 Daytona's in 1969.
They made 392 Charger 500's in 1968...(69 model)
They made 26 hemi Daytona 4-speeds.
They made 25 hemi 500 4-speeds...
I had the pleasure of working on Bretts Daytona back in 2005.
He said it was a ''bad buy and it would cost way to much to fix''.
It was an 'ex track car' and was badly beat up...
At the time he was probably right...
A few years ago Barrett-Jackson begged him to sell it, how times change?
They bought his whole car collection of over 50 cars...
The date coded steel wheels were $5000 for four...(no tires lol).
Brett Torino knew I was working on the 71 Cuda and asked me if ''I wanted a job''?
I said ''I already have a job in the UK in a V8 machine shop''...
He laughed and said ''surely working in Vegas would be nicer''?
''Sure that would be nice but I couldn't afford it''.
''No problem'' he said, ''you will get a free house to live in as long as you look after my 50 cars for a small salary''...
I never asked what the wages were, as I would have fainted with shock...
It was a measly $500 a week so I passed...
I said ''I already have a job in the UK in a V8 machine shop''...
He laughed and said ''surely working in Vegas would be nicer''?
''Sure that would be nice but I couldn't afford it''.
''No problem'' he said, ''you will get a free house to live in as long as you look after my 50 cars for a small salary''...
I never asked what the wages were, as I would have fainted with shock...
It was a measly $500 a week so I passed...
aeropilot said:
P5BNij said:
I never thought I'd ever see a yank outdo a Miura at the auctions, that '69 Daytona Hemi is bonkers money!
It's not exactly an unusual occurrence...!!They made over 900 Miura's after all.......they are relatively speaking, ten a penny.
They only made 22 x 4-speed Hemi powered Charger Daytona's.
And at the Mecum auction back in January the legendary Hirohata '51 Mercury sold for nearly double the Daytona price, when it sold for $2.145m......and at the same auction, the prototype '65 Shelby GT350R sold for $3.75m.......
Pedant alert : 762 or 764 Miura's built depending on where you read it!
some bloke said:
roscobbc said:
There has got to be a 'point' with a tall axle and/or overdrive tx where (and not counting 's) there are minimal gains as the engine perhaps is all too often going to be running below its optimum rpm for best economy. The logic of efi perhaps makes sense - but mpi rather than tbi. Even a change of cam to perhaps a RV type cam will make a difference.......unfortunately one will probably need to accumulate tens of thousands of miles before any overall financial benefits are seen.....
Yes, agreed - will the saved over the time I own the car justify the expense of fitting o/d or different gears? Taller gears would probably be the cheaper & easier option. It's a 10 bolt, but had all new bearings and a posi fitted a wee while ago. A stump puller cam and better heads are on the 'one day' list - I had plans of putting a 383 in but buying a holiday home blew the toy budget.Gassing Station | Yank Motors | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff