Why so high?

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Gtxxjon

684 posts

28 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Why so high?


Gtxxjon

684 posts

28 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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One of the (23 remaining) Dukes cars was going to make the eye watering sum of 10 million dollars!

But not quite, $9,900,000?



Must be the 1968 Dodge Coronet sill mouldings put them off???

Gtxxjon

684 posts

28 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Graham Norton Show 'Dukes' 2007 part 2.

If you watch part 2 its quite funny as they do a spoof Dukes...

The owner of the Dukes Charger is called Lee Duke, yes his real name.
Plus the guy playing Daisy is also a 69 Charger owner from Kent too.

Gtxxjon

684 posts

28 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Why are 69 Charger prices SO HIGH?

I blame the DUKES boys myself...

But the powers to be could have made full steel bodies and brought a lot of these dead cars 'back to life'...





Vinyl roof trims on some and not others?

some bloke

1,057 posts

68 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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aeropilot said:
Taller gears with a PG might not work too well, as most PG cars already run tall gears....?
You can keep the originality of the 2-speed PG slushmatic............and still add overdrive with a Gear Vendors overdrive unit on the back of the original PG box.

https://www.gearvendors.com/index.html
Thank for that link - I'll have a look through later. I don't think they are that high atm - I am doing 3000 rpm at 60 so a drop to 2500 or less would b good.

newsatten

3,339 posts

115 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Apologies for being the profit of doom about the fuel prices
But most of these monsters are owned by ordinary work folk,
Ok I know we know the “Tweeds” are in the loop but most are just normal guys and girls,
Everyone is being squeezed with everything we buy or use
It’s now painful to run one of these things,
Smiles per gallon are very hard to keep when 100 quids worth is gone on one trip!
It’s horses fit corses if my wages had doubled in the last 5 years I’d be fine with it!

All the talk of axle changers and over drives make it sound easy, till one’s finds out the costs involved!
1000’s nothing is cheap!

Gtxxjon

684 posts

28 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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No probs Newsatten.

I had an Mopar axle fitting business in Ashford for ten years!

Not one customer lol...

But I could do hundreds now, fitting all those 2.76 gears back in lol..

Life is all about timing, always a 'day late and a dollar short'...

My Moparmate in 1983 sold his 69 Charger because he couldn't afford the GAS!
I sold my 69 in 1993 cos I couldn't afford the GAS!

Not selling my 69 this time, I just like cuddling her lol.

Edited by Gtxxjon on Tuesday 24th May 13:01

Gtxxjon

684 posts

28 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Even Richard is saying he is ''broke''...

What chance do us pensioners stand???



Cripes that is AWFUL Richard...

Gtxxjon

684 posts

28 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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OMG that is Gorgeous...!!!




1.2 million dollars or a 69 500 for $200,000?



An extra 1 million dollars for a nosecone and a wing, now thats just mentals...


Edited by Gtxxjon on Tuesday 24th May 13:07

roscobbc

3,375 posts

243 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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There has got to be a 'point' with a tall axle and/or overdrive tx where (and not counting £££'s) there are minimal gains as the engine perhaps is all too often going to be running below its optimum rpm for best economy. The logic of efi perhaps makes sense - but mpi rather than tbi. Even a change of cam to perhaps a RV type cam will make a difference.......unfortunately one will probably need to accumulate tens of thousands of miles before any overall financial benefits are seen.....

P5BNij

15,875 posts

107 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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rat rod said:
P5BNij said:
I've got quite a few yank shows / gatherings pencilled in over the next few months, some of which actually coincide with me having a day off! Even after all the covid stuff there are several weekends where there are at least two or three different shows on around the country so there's plenty of choice. Got a few Mini ones jotted down too which the other half likes to go to. As for the Italians, there's a smallish but very good one at the Sharnbrook Hotel in Bedfordshire on 5th June, handily it's right on the A6 main road but sadly it clashes with the Mini one at Gaydon. There's also the annual Midlands Italian Car Day (MITCAR) in Derbyshire on 19th June which I'll try and get too, it's pre-booked tickets only but well worth a look...

https://www.aroc-uk.com/eastmids/mitcar.html

I've been to a couple of these MITCAR dos and they're really good, everything from Fiat 500s to rare exotica turns up. Still got the 430 haven't you...?

I also keep meaning to go to some of the single marque shows at Stanford Hall which only ten miles away, we always go to the Mini one in September but somehow I keep missing the Italian / Porsche / VW etc shows.



Edited by P5BNij on Monday 23 May 15:58
Thanks for the info, the midlands meeting is just about doable if not much else on that day nearer home ,

Got the Ferrari owners club at Goodwood next week right on my doorstep .

Worth going just to take the piss out of the hooray Henry's in their their his and hers Ferrari's caps,jackets

and umbrella's ,laugh

Still got the 430 but "Collecting Cars" are having another go at selling it ,going live tomorrow , can feel another

shopping trip coming on if successful ,scratchchin

Just had my Beaulieu tickets confirmed ,only 15 minutes up the road so need to go to that one.

Just asked about the Italian meetings as i thought you may be taking the masa to one of them and we could have a meet up.
On the off chance I can go I've just bought a ticket for that MITCAR show in Derbyshire, it's a tenner per car rather than per person so if I can't go it's not so bad. Hoping to go in the Maser though, I've just checked my slush fund and I think there's enough in there to get it tuned up and MOTd in time. I've just ordered another period steering wheel for the Mini so I can transfer the Nardi wheel into the Maser.

If the 430 goes, what's next on your shopping list.... another yank or something European and mildly exotic...? scratchchin

I never thought I'd ever see a yank outdo a Miura at the auctions, that '69 Daytona Hemi is bonkers money! As GTX says I doubt if the new owner will use it in anger, a pity really - in the parallel universe where I could afford a £1m Miura or LP400 Countach I'd still want to use them, no matter what their 'value' is.



some bloke

1,057 posts

68 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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roscobbc said:
There has got to be a 'point' with a tall axle and/or overdrive tx where (and not counting 's) there are minimal gains as the engine perhaps is all too often going to be running below its optimum rpm for best economy. The logic of efi perhaps makes sense - but mpi rather than tbi. Even a change of cam to perhaps a RV type cam will make a difference.......unfortunately one will probably need to accumulate tens of thousands of miles before any overall financial benefits are seen.....
Yes, agreed - will the £££ saved over the time I own the car justify the expense of fitting o/d or different gears? Taller gears would probably be the cheaper & easier option. It's a 10 bolt, but had all new bearings and a posi fitted a wee while ago. A stump puller cam and better heads are on the 'one day' list - I had plans of putting a 383 in but buying a holiday home blew the toy budget.

aeropilot

34,670 posts

228 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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P5BNij said:
I never thought I'd ever see a yank outdo a Miura at the auctions, that '69 Daytona Hemi is bonkers money!
It's not exactly an unusual occurrence...!!
They made over 900 Miura's after all.......they are relatively speaking, ten a penny.

They only made 22 x 4-speed Hemi powered Charger Daytona's.

And at the Mecum auction back in January the legendary Hirohata '51 Mercury sold for nearly double the Daytona price, when it sold for $2.145m......and at the same auction, the prototype '65 Shelby GT350R sold for $3.75m.......


Gtxxjon

684 posts

28 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Rarity doesn't always mean value!

They made 503 Daytona's in 1969.

They made 392 Charger 500's in 1968...(69 model)

They made 26 hemi Daytona 4-speeds.

They made 25 hemi 500 4-speeds...

I had the pleasure of working on Bretts Daytona back in 2005.
He said it was a ''bad buy and it would cost way to much to fix''.
It was an 'ex track car' and was badly beat up...

At the time he was probably right...

A few years ago Barrett-Jackson begged him to sell it, how times change?
They bought his whole car collection of over 50 cars...



The date coded steel wheels were $5000 for four...(no tires lol).

Gtxxjon

684 posts

28 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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This was the first car I worked on in Cali in 2004.

If you want to talk about stupid prices, read the Cuda convert story book...



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I really like 'white cars' but this ain't for me lol...

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Edited by Gtxxjon on Tuesday 24th May 14:34

Gtxxjon

684 posts

28 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Brett Torino knew I was working on the 71 Cuda and asked me if ''I wanted a job''?

I said ''I already have a job in the UK in a V8 machine shop''...

He laughed and said ''surely working in Vegas would be nicer''?

''Sure that would be nice but I couldn't afford it''.

''No problem'' he said, ''you will get a free house to live in as long as you look after my 50 cars for a small salary''...

I never asked what the wages were, as I would have fainted with shock...



It was a measly $500 a week so I passed...

P5BNij

15,875 posts

107 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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aeropilot said:
P5BNij said:
I never thought I'd ever see a yank outdo a Miura at the auctions, that '69 Daytona Hemi is bonkers money!
It's not exactly an unusual occurrence...!!
They made over 900 Miura's after all.......they are relatively speaking, ten a penny.

They only made 22 x 4-speed Hemi powered Charger Daytona's.

And at the Mecum auction back in January the legendary Hirohata '51 Mercury sold for nearly double the Daytona price, when it sold for $2.145m......and at the same auction, the prototype '65 Shelby GT350R sold for $3.75m.......
I'll put it down me wearing my usual Italian blinkers!

Pedant alert : 762 or 764 Miura's built depending on where you read it! wink

Gtxxjon

684 posts

28 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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No this is not my garage' it would have been my 'place of work' in Vegas...






Still can't believe I turned it down...

Life is full of 'missed opportunities'...boohoo

Edited by Gtxxjon on Tuesday 24th May 14:53

roscobbc

3,375 posts

243 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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some bloke said:
roscobbc said:
There has got to be a 'point' with a tall axle and/or overdrive tx where (and not counting 's) there are minimal gains as the engine perhaps is all too often going to be running below its optimum rpm for best economy. The logic of efi perhaps makes sense - but mpi rather than tbi. Even a change of cam to perhaps a RV type cam will make a difference.......unfortunately one will probably need to accumulate tens of thousands of miles before any overall financial benefits are seen.....
Yes, agreed - will the saved over the time I own the car justify the expense of fitting o/d or different gears? Taller gears would probably be the cheaper & easier option. It's a 10 bolt, but had all new bearings and a posi fitted a wee while ago. A stump puller cam and better heads are on the 'one day' list - I had plans of putting a 383 in but buying a holiday home blew the toy budget.
Yes generally a lower numerical axle ratio will help re. mpg........but there is also a degree of logic in running an engine at a higher rpm where it could be under a lighter load.......i.e revving higher close to it torque peak but perhaps under a lesser load. Suppose it all balances up with frictional losses of an 8 cylinder engine vs perhaps a 3 or 4 cylinder engine and latest cylinder deactivation tech used on 'todays' multi-cylinder engines.

Gtxxjon

684 posts

28 months

Tuesday 24th May 2022
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Blue cars seem to sell well?



Super snake 5.15 mill.