Why so high?

[newsatten]

Yep im guessing ill be the same, however Righthand drive cars are easier to get into for me now and its just normal!
as im faced with just packing up completely or looking at other stuff, im open to most idea's , ive a soft spot for most TR's, A TR6 with a Surrey top can be reasonably civilised and is quick enough to be fun,

So going to consider anything, but something British and RHD would also mean my wife will be far more likely to jump in and come out with me!
It will also be far more affordable on fuel, 25mpg would almost half my petrol costs, i genuinely believe its adapt or die!
I love the American Motors, have done for over 40 years, but 9 quid a gallon is time to stop..................... for me anyway.

So yeah quite looking forward to seeing what i end up with

[P5BNij]

Triumph Stag perhaps...?

[newsatten]

P5BNij said:

Triumph Stag perhaps...?

Noooo definitely not my thing,
Completely uninvolving , I really enjoyed my Tiger but alas it’s another car that’s hugely over valued,
I paid 8 grand for mine guess it was around 02
Ish,
Sold my 350/350 manual 69’ Vette the same year for 12k about the same time,

Can’t afford either now! Lol

[roscobbc]

newsatten said:

Noooo definitely not my thing,
Completely uninvolving , I really enjoyed my Tiger but alas it’s another car that’s hugely over valued,
I paid 8 grand for mine guess it was around 02
Ish,
Sold my 350/350 manual 69’ Vette the same year for 12k about the same time,

Can’t afford either now! Lol

And that £12K for a 350/350 '69 - it was a good price to buy at back then!

[aeropilot]

If I was looking to do the same the only things that would tick my box would be re-connecting with my childhood and a car my Dad owned, or was associated, with so I'd be looking at a Moggy Traveller which was the first car he owned that I can remember, or a Rover P6 3500 or Jag S-Type......although the Jag in decent nick would be likely stretching the 'affordable' budget a little, although they are still a bargain compared to a Mk.2, and I'd want an auto anyway, and the price premiums are for a MOD, so a decent S-Type might just be in the affordable range.
A decent late model P6 certainley would be, but they are not easy to find.
Decent Traveller's with a few hidden resto-mods are getting expensive now though.

I've never been a fan of 'sports cars' so that probably make it an easier choice for me, with old 60's and 70's Ford's being now in the unaffordable price range.

[roscobbc]

newsatten said:

Noooo definitely not my thing,
Completely uninvolving , I really enjoyed my Tiger but alas it’s another car that’s hugely over valued,
I paid 8 grand for mine guess it was around 02
Ish,
Sold my 350/350 manual 69’ Vette the same year for 12k about the same time,

Can’t afford either now! Lol

And that £12K for a 350/350 '69 - it was a good price to buy at back then!

[LeighW]

I thought the 77 TA had sold, but I guess not, it's back, starting bid £18k no reserve. If it's as tidy as it looks, that's cheap IMO. The market for these gas guzzlers definitely softening in this country.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/175299974044?mkevt=1&am...

[newsatten]

Yeah I agree, it could just be a blip,
But these things have been generally owned by ordinary Joe’s traditional, how even that’s changed to a degree,
Trouble is the squeeze is only just getting started so things are definitely going to get worse,

It’s definitely the price of fuel that’s the big issue,
If it returns to 1-40 - 1 50 a gallon at some point things will pick up, however if it doesn’t which I’d fear more likely I really think it will have a down ward pressure on Yank prices across the board,

And yes Aero I to am not really a Sports car guy,
But if I’m doomed to have to consider non yanks
then for me they are pretty much the option, as with open top cars there’s a bit of theatre in use,

I’d pretty much made up my mind to quit,
But my other interests are under attack as much as the cars,
Both my Clay Shooting clubs have shut for good,
I’m virtually limited just to Hythe for my rifle shooting,
Lydds a no go now, Bisley is just to far and fretful to get to for me,
Plus as Hythe is last man standing it’s now almost impossible to get any ranges past 300 !
Complete waste of time with a 338 or a 300,
So I’m going to try and sell the forma and no longer buying the latter!! Lol
Ammo costs, the pending dramas with lead bullets etc it’s bloody endless!


So I figured I can still mess with an old car ,
So it will at least occupy some of my spare time,
And maybe just about keep me sane???

[aeropilot]

newsatten said:

I’d pretty much made up my mind to quit,
But my other interests are under attack as much as the cars,
Both my Clay Shooting clubs have shut for good,
I’m virtually limited just to Hythe for my rifle shooting,
Lydds a no go now, Bisley is just to far and fretful to get to for me,
Plus as Hythe is last man standing it’s now almost impossible to get any ranges past 300 !
Complete waste of time with a 338 or a 300,
So I’m going to try and sell the forma and no longer buying the latter!! Lol
Ammo costs, the pending dramas with lead bullets etc it’s bloody endless!

Yep, as you say, both of our 'other hobbies' are equally being 'attacked' from multiple sides....regarding both costs and usage.
Talking to one of the big ammo suppliers/imports the other day, and he said he can't even place an order for .22rf ammo now.....when he's sold his current stock, he has no idea when he'll be able to get any more, and that's just .22rf!! He's one of the UK's biggest ammo suppliers as well.
12g has jumped up in costs yet again this past few weeks, so just as well as you've got no clay club anymore!

As you say, no point in owing any serious long range calibre, and with the jury out on the lead issue, who knows where we'll be in 12 months time. My ticket was renewed a year ago........I'm not convinced there will be much point in renewing it in 4 years time..!
Hardly any in my small club reload, so I can see a point where the club folds as if people can't buy ammo they can't shoot, and they may call it a day...which will put our club's existence in doubt, and I doubt I'll want to go through the huge hassle of trying to find, join and fit in within another club. If my club did fold, I'd call it a day with the FAC and just keep the SGC unless I joined LERA and just keep the Lee-Enfields for 2 or 3 shoots a year with them. Have heard though its very cliquey in LERA and can be a bit of a PITA, so likely would just call it a day on the FAC.

[Gtxxjon]

AdeTuono said:

I've owned & driven US cars for over 30 years now, but just in the last few months, prices seem to have gone through the roof. I'm not talking Roadrunners, Superbees, Shelbys and the like; they have always fetched a premium, but 'ordinary' metal, like, for example, 70's Impalas, 70's/80's Cadillacs and the like, which are appearing on eBay with ridiculous prices.

It seems entry-point now is around £15k for anything half-decent. Run-of-the-mill pickups seems to fetch £12k up, no matter what condition. Even unmolested, and until recently, unloved, '73 Mustangs are looking for £25k. I know there's a difference between what's asked and what's realised, but some vendors are really pushing it.

And don't get me started on 'barn finds'. For some reason those words give the seller carte blanche to sell a pile of rusty junk for a price that would have bought a nice '69 Mustang a few years back.

Oh for the days of matching-numbers 455 Firebirds for less that £2k...(my first US car, a few years back).

I suppose someone will blame Brexit/Covid, but come on...

look what you started ADE!

[Gtxxjon]

The problem we all have is 'been there done that'...

If you don't raise the bar then you have 'Muscle-car' stagflation...

So once you have owned a 68 and a 69 R/T Charger, where do you go from there???

For me it was a Daytona, but that is just mental money!
Then maybe a Superbird, nearly a mortgage too...

Both my cars are numbers matching 440's which are just guzzlers.
Small-block is deffo the way forwards, if driving is 'back on the cards'?

Resto at any level is bonkers expensive, so its a 'RAT-Rod' from now on for me...

I think my Dodge D200 with a POLY 318 will certainly fit the bill...
Just bought a 413 and a five speed so that's 'in da bin'...

Edited by Gtxxjon on Monday 30th May 16:53

Did you know running with the 'flap-down' is bad for top-end speed!

Edited by Gtxxjon on Monday 30th May 16:55

[newsatten]

I guess that’s the crux really, are you actually going drive the cars or just look at them !
Either is fine just depends on the individual,
For me if I can’t use it then it’s no use ,

As I said 5 years ago when I brought the RT petrol was about a pound a litre , virtually double now,
If my wages had doubled then no problem!
But they ain’t !
So something has to give,
As for prices
I’m actually starting to think I got out pretty well with the Challenger, I covered my costs and enjoyed it,

But alas I can’t go back , so have to look at alternatives !
And looking is all I’m doing at this time, no panic or rush
It’s actually quite nice now I’m in this

Edited by newsatten on Monday 30th May 18:07

[P5BNij]

Point taken on the Stag, it's certainly more of a gentleman's wafter than a proper sporting impliment

I know it's not British but how about the Pininfarina designed and built Alfa Spider? Plenty about in RHD with the Kamm tail, with that lovely little twin cam four. Or maybe the Fiat 124 Spider (also by Pininfarina) - all built in LHD but Middle Barton garage in Oxfordshire do a RHD conversion.

I'd also suggest a Jensen Interceptor if your budget will stretch to one. Another wafty one really, but they have bags of charisma with that Chrysler V8.

[newsatten]

HaHa still trying to sell the Italian dream!
a wobbly twin cam that dont know whether to tick over or fall over! lol
Jensons are monumental rusters, er like the above , and are horrendous to repair,

ive inquired about a couple of Lotus's and hopefully will view a couple of Europa's over the weekend, ive been messing with my E today, lordy the old girl is looking a tad shabby now, runs much better for a service, no bearing rumble now its got oil instead of petrol in the sump!
looking around the body i reckon we could easily throw 20K at it!


My mates Roush made 22K failed to sell, i watched a Mulsane make 3100 quid and sell, looked an ok car.
3100 pounds mad!

[aeropilot]

P5BNij said:

I'd also suggest a Jensen Interceptor if your budget will stretch to one. Another wafty one really, but they have bags of charisma with that Chrysler V8.

Most decent Interceptors are now more than he got for the R/T...!

Any under £25-30k are going to be a huge moneypit.

Something I would consider, and they are not hugely expensive, albeit not many left, is the Reliant Scimitar GT SE4A or SE4B from the late sixties.
Fibreglass body, decent chassis, and Ford running gear, and I've always liked the looks as well. I used to compete against a highly modded one back when I was competing in Sprints in the late 80's/early 90's and it was mighty quick.

[P5BNij]

newsatten said:

HaHa still trying to sell the Italian dream!
a wobbly twin cam that dont know whether to tick over or fall over! lol
Jensons are monumental rusters, er like the above , and are horrendous to repair,

ive inquired about a couple of Lotus's and hopefully will view a couple of Europa's over the weekend, ive been messing with my E today, lordy the old girl is looking a tad shabby now, runs much better for a service, no bearing rumble now its got oil instead of petrol in the sump!
looking around the body i reckon we could easily throw 20K at it!


My mates Roush made 22K failed to sell, i watched a Mulsane make 3100 quid and sell, looked an ok car.
3100 pounds mad!

Well it was worth a try wasn't it!

Good luck with the Europas, another chance for the likes of us to live vicariously if you buy one!

[P5BNij]

aeropilot said:

P5BNij said:

I'd also suggest a Jensen Interceptor if your budget will stretch to one. Another wafty one really, but they have bags of charisma with that Chrysler V8.

Most decent Interceptors are now more than he got for the R/T...!

Any under £25-30k are going to be a huge moneypit.

Something I would consider, and they are not hugely expensive, albeit not many left, is the Reliant Scimitar GT SE4A or SE4B from the late sixties.
Fibreglass body, decent chassis, and Ford running gear, and I've always liked the looks as well. I used to compete against a highly modded one back when I was competing in Sprints in the late 80's/early 90's and it was mighty quick.

I saw one of those at the NEC last year, very handsome looking cars.

[roscobbc]

I like the earlier Scimitars with the straight six rather than the V6. Suitably equiped with Raymond Mayes head and triple SU's (or better still triple twin choke Webers a surprisingly formidable performer due to glass fibre body and resultant light weight.

[rat rod]

roscobbc said:

I like the earlier Scimitars with the straight six rather than the V6. Suitably equiped with Raymond Mayes head and triple SU's (or better still triple twin choke Webers a surprisingly formidable performer due to glass fibre body and resultant light weight.

Wouldn't mind one myself ,as you said fitted with triple webbers just for the intake noice .

Only Relient's i've ever owned was a Regal saoon which i managed to get up on 2 wheels

and a van although not yellow we hand painted Trotter Brothers Peckham,Paris ,New York on it, only bought it

to upset our posh friends when they invited us to their party with valet parking , worth the effort just to see the look

on their faces . funny never invited us again

[newsatten]

When I walk around under one of these
It does make me wonder why I still like cars!


This old bucket is a complete turd,
My boss still thinks it’s 70k ‘s worth

My latest mission should I choose to accept it
Try and free off a partial seized clutch fulcrum!
Without taking it apart

The boss almost had a heart attack when I told him the motor has to come out !
Then we need to fit a complete clutch, and we had better fit a new starter motor at the same time ,



This is the side you don’t see on the tele or in the glossy magazines
Lovely