Why so high?

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LeighW

4,419 posts

189 months

Monday 29th April
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Harry Flashman said:
This. I spoke to Martin myself. It was built in 1994, a time without the aggressive speed bumps we see today, and for a life in rural East Sussex. Contemporary magazine articles show the car at its current ride height, and review the way it drives very favourably. But that's by the by as...

...without starting another post on this, I will say this to SS427: this is a friendly forum, and we are pretty helpful to each other. There is also a wealth of knowledge and diversity of opinion. Since I started posting here, shortly after buying my car, many have helped me, steered me and disagreed with my ideas where necessary. It's been really friendly, and has become my favourite little corner of PH.

However you telling Rosco that his wheels are "hideous" and me that my car shouldn't have been built the way it has, complete with punchy quotes like the one above isn't exactly friendly or helpful behaviour. You may wish to speak to others on here as you would if we were sitting together at a table in a pub.

Perhaps this rudeness represents humour, to you - in which case using a smiley may help you get that across.

If this isn't humour, and you are typing as as you would behave in person, I for one am grateful that I won't have ever have to put up with such a lack of courtesy.
Hard to argue with any of that. Posting only things that I'd say to someone's face is my yard stick. In fact I'm far less polite face to face. laugh


aeropilot

34,733 posts

228 months

Monday 29th April
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ratrod 2 said:
aeropilot said:
SS427 Camaro said:
Harry Flashman said:
There's no "shouldn't" about it - it was built that way by RPM, and drives and rides nicely. I just would prefer it an inch higher for cosmetic and practical reasons.
So “ they built it that way so that it drags its arse on the ground did they “….
Martin would have built it to what his original customer wanted (and all but two of us on here would have wanted as well).......other than the traction bars, which I'd throw in the bin, in my eyes its perfect as it is (although, I'd repaint the ARE's so they looked more like pukka vintage mag ones)

But it's not my car.
Agree the car looks perfect the way it is but i suppose for practical purposes may have to be raised slightly ,no good talking to someone like me having to have two new sumps fitted to my slammed VW Passat wagon due to vanity as i refused to higher it slightly, not to mention having to refit the exhaust's three times on my previous Le Camino as i always drove through town on it's lowest setting. As you say not your car or mine ,it's Harry's ,lucky guy.
rofl



aeropilot

34,733 posts

228 months

Monday 29th April
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newsatten said:
aeropilot said:
newsatten said:
I’ve been reliably informed that there’s a outside chance it may get inspected, unlikely but possible,
So need to keep it all together, which tbh suits me for the time being,
I'll actually be more surprised if they don't inspect it......given the stories elsewhere about similar stuff.

So, yes, keep it all complete. And if they do send someone out, it won't be a DVLA inspector, as they now contract inspections out to a 3rd party (can't remember the name of the company now)



Yes that’s what I’ve been told,
But as with everything belt tightening is lowering the chances Apparently?
That would be a bonus smile

roscobbc

3,388 posts

243 months

Tuesday 30th April
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Been thinking about 'Harrys' comments (relating to using his car in central London vs use in the Surrey suburbs) and the issues with driveability etc that he experiences. These also affect me with my Vette. Fortunately (perhaps unfortunately even) living in an outer London location and 2 or 3 miles from the M25 'freedom' is not too far away...... theoretically.
I'm minded to think of others like Marc Lamude (some may of of him relating to his 'huffed' pro street 8 second 55 Chevy. He takes that car and other old yanks straight into the West End with no issues seemingly (and no air conditioning). The 55 is an interesting case as he has a charge cooler set-up mounted in the boot with the 'in & out' tubing from the huffer back to the carb passing through the car where a centre console would be.........must get hot, very hot. He (and the car) seem to cope quite well with summer temperatures........so if he can 'do it' really both Harry and myself should be able to figure a way to make our respective car more useable in heavy traffic situations.

newsatten

3,355 posts

115 months

Tuesday 30th April
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roscobbc said:
Been thinking about 'Harrys' comments (relating to using his car in central London vs use in the Surrey suburbs) and the issues with driveability etc that he experiences. These also affect me with my Vette. Fortunately (perhaps unfortunately even) living in an outer London location and 2 or 3 miles from the M25 'freedom' is not too far away...... theoretically.
I'm minded to think of others like Marc Lamude (some may of of him relating to his 'huffed' pro street 8 second 55 Chevy. He takes that car and other old yanks straight into the West End with no issues seemingly (and no air conditioning). The 55 is an interesting case as he has a charge cooler set-up mounted in the boot with the 'in & out' tubing from the huffer back to the carb passing through the car where a centre console would be.........must get hot, very hot. He (and the car) seem to cope quite well with summer temperatures........so if he can 'do it' really both Harry and myself should be able to figure a way to make our respective car more useable in heavy traffic situations.
Yes good point!
Can’t see why anyone needs aircon in the Uk,
Obviously I’m talking about in an older car which is used infrequently!
In ones daily and office absolutely, but the odd few hours tooling around in one’s toy nah, windows down music up,
Elbow hanging out is perfect!
But from the cars perspective one needs to be pretty much on it!
Most yanks have huge radiators to cope with the huge changes is weather that a country of that size had to cope with .
But better control over engine temperatures is very desirable, clutch driven fans should be fine but now petrol has considerably changed engines are more prone to overheating,
Ironically Aircon will definitely increase the overheating likelihood if used loads !

aeropilot

34,733 posts

228 months

Tuesday 30th April
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newsatten said:
but now petrol has considerably changed engines are more prone to overheating,
E content is still low enough in UK as long as using certain brands of Super and not regular 95.....Youtubers are regulary showing testing of various brands of 97-99 in UK and some are barely showing as much as E2-3 let alone E5 levels.....

BUT.......it will get progressively worse as the push into more Ethanol progresses, and that will mean older spec engines running ever hotter.



roscobbc

3,388 posts

243 months

Tuesday 30th April
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newsatten said:
Yes good point!
Can’t see why anyone needs aircon in the Uk,
Obviously I’m talking about in an older car which is used infrequently!
In ones daily and office absolutely, but the odd few hours tooling around in one’s toy nah, windows down music up,
Elbow hanging out is perfect!
But from the cars perspective one needs to be pretty much on it!
Most yanks have huge radiators to cope with the huge changes is weather that a country of that size had to cope with .
But better control over engine temperatures is very desirable, clutch driven fans should be fine but now petrol has considerably changed engines are more prone to overheating,
Ironically Aircon will definitely increase the overheating likelihood if used loads !
TBH my Vette never really overheats in the true sense.....it'll run a bit 'wooly' with elevated engine temperatures over 190/200 F........for me its cabin heat that is the biggest issue. 'T' roofs and back window are 'off' permanently during summer months to get some respite from the heat..........

newsatten

3,355 posts

115 months

Tuesday 30th April
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roscobbc said:
newsatten said:
Yes good point!
Can’t see why anyone needs aircon in the Uk,
Obviously I’m talking about in an older car which is used infrequently!
In ones daily and office absolutely, but the odd few hours tooling around in one’s toy nah, windows down music up,
Elbow hanging out is perfect!
But from the cars perspective one needs to be pretty much on it!
Most yanks have huge radiators to cope with the huge changes is weather that a country of that size had to cope with .
But better control over engine temperatures is very desirable, clutch driven fans should be fine but now petrol has considerably changed engines are more prone to overheating,
Ironically Aircon will definitely increase the overheating likelihood if used loads !
TBH my Vette never really overheats in the true sense.....it'll run a bit 'wooly' with elevated engine temperatures over 190/200 F........for me its cabin heat that is the biggest issue. 'T' roofs and back window are 'off' permanently during summer months to get some respite from the heat..........
As I’ve said before, Tom Faulkner told me absolutely not to fit headers to my last anniversary car,
I did and fitted Flow masters , sounded lovely but good grief did it up the cabin temperature!
Should have listened!!
Not going down that route again, the 400 engine has its Ram Air manifolds which are a sort of cast headers,
So I’ll keep them and the header pipes which are flattered to site up against the floor, which obviously will help ground clearance,
But still going with Flow master boxes ,and up and over tail exhaust, as opposed to the transverse box under the rear bulkhead .

newsatten

3,355 posts

115 months

Tuesday 30th April
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Spoke to DVLA today, very helpful I thought,
The girl whom I spoke to suggested as the car may previously been registered etc , I should before doing anything else fill in a V 62 registration form and DVLA archive team will search for the VIN
If indeed it has been registered they will issue a V5 in my name!
Got to worth the 25 quid fee!
Fingers crossed!!!

LeighW

4,419 posts

189 months

Tuesday 30th April
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That's good NaT, hopefully the DVLA will come good. They're usually really efficient, so... laugh

Headers and vinyl seats in my 'Turd, one hot leg and a sweaty back is all part of the fun! That's assuming we get any summer of course. I'm in the Lakes in my camper this week, no sweating issues here I can assure you, trench foot more likely to be a problem. laugh

aeropilot

34,733 posts

228 months

Tuesday 30th April
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LeighW said:
Headers and vinyl seats in my 'Turd, one hot leg and a sweaty back is all part of the fun!
I simply couldn't go back to owning anything again that had vinyl seats yuck

roscobbc

3,388 posts

243 months

Tuesday 30th April
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newsatten said:
roscobbc said:
newsatten said:
TBH my Vette never really overheats in the true sense.....it'll run a bit 'wooly' with elevated engine temperatures over 190/200 F........for me its cabin heat that is the biggest issue. 'T' roofs and back window are 'off' permanently during summer months to get some respite from the heat..........
As I’ve said before, Tom Faulkner told me absolutely not to fit headers to my last anniversary car,
I did and fitted Flow masters , sounded lovely but good grief did it up the cabin temperature!
Should have listened!!
Not going down that route again, the 400 engine has its Ram Air manifolds which are a sort of cast headers,
So I’ll keep them and the header pipes which are flattered to site up against the floor, which obviously will help ground clearance,
But still going with Flow master boxes ,and up and over tail exhaust, as opposed to the transverse box under the rear bulkhead .
I obviously know and respect Tom........but he is not 100% correct re. use of headers. Perhaps some who have installed headers haven't compensated for the weak mixture that could result from better exhaust scavenging. One thing for certain is that some brands of headers have collectors very close to the floor pan, right under the drivers feet!. The first set of Hedmans I installed were like that.......however, other than 'warm' feet the engine itself ran cooler with the headers than the stock cast iron manifolds. Actual underhood temperatures and general overheating issues were surprisingly reduced too.
Roll on a few years and the big tube Hooker Super Comps I later installed run even cooler due to the ceramic coating........the typical 'tic', 'tic', 'ticking' sound when each cylinder fires through the header walls was aksi minimised. When I say 'cooler' I mean in relative terms.......things are still 'kin hot, really hot!

ratrod 2

1,005 posts

10 months

Wednesday 1st May
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Harry Flashman said:
Thanks! I do love the thing and it drives well (apart from vague steering, which I reckon means it needs a steering box upgrade). Just wish I could drive it more. People love it when they see it too - was trickling down Windsor High Street and a bunch of Aussie tourists cheered at me and wanted to take photos.

Last car I had that people were so nice about was a Morgan.
Not sure if your Camaro has power steering ,if so yes it will be very vague but at least it is light unlike the manual steering which is heavy and vague. If you are keeping it for a while a rack and pinion set up much like many Mustangs have had fitted would be a ideal upgrade but probably not cheap,.

ratrod 2

1,005 posts

10 months

Wednesday 1st May
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newsatten said:
ratrod 2 said:
Sounds and looks like you have had a result , Although a lot of work ahead it's good news that it is structurely sound and better than expected when getting home.Rare find these days with most having been already restored at inflated prices., Like every one on here looking forward to your progress ,Ever thought about becoming a "You Tuber" ,would make interesting content and give the likes of Shmee a run for his money .
Haha
I’m far too common to do any video’s blogs etc,
No I’ll just bore the pants off you lot !
Joking aside I’m really looking forward to getting stuck in , but at this time patience is the word!
I’ve been reliably informed that there’s a outside chance it may get inspected, unlikely but possible,
So need to keep it all together, which tbh suits me for the time being,
As funds allow I’ll start cobbling parts together,

Well we actually brought a car, got a new 24 plate Volvo XC 40 2 lt Mild hybrid,
In Vapour Grey , pretty car, the wife’s chuffed so that’s something else off the list !!!
Theoretically the house is done , the wife’s got her car,
I should be able to crack on with my baby laugh
Sounds like your wallet has taken a bit of a bashing but at least with the house done and you and the wifey sorted with new toys your ready to go with the T/Am build, wish i had the knowhow and the skill to do the same but it would end in tears like the Espada that i was foolish enough to pull apart and ended selling as a meccano kit to a specialist who broke it for parts as was worth nothing in those days

aeropilot

34,733 posts

228 months

Wednesday 1st May
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ratrod 2 said:
wish i had the knowhow and the skill to do the same but it would end in tears like the Espada that i was foolish enough to pull apart and ended selling as a meccano kit to a specialist who broke it for parts as was worth nothing in those days
Yep, its why I ended up sending off all the '32 bits to someone that knew how to actually put it all together, as if I hadn't, there would still be a large pile of bits sitting in boxes in the garage........and they'd have still been there when I'm being put in my own box..... rofl




roscobbc

3,388 posts

243 months

Wednesday 1st May
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aeropilot said:
ratrod 2 said:
wish i had the knowhow and the skill to do the same but it would end in tears like the Espada that i was foolish enough to pull apart and ended selling as a meccano kit to a specialist who broke it for parts as was worth nothing in those days
Yep, its why I ended up sending off all the '32 bits to someone that knew how to actually put it all together, as if I hadn't, there would still be a large pile of bits sitting in boxes in the garage........and they'd have still been there when I'm being put in my own box..... rofl
A very good reason for 'not' taking a car apart if intending a major resto unless you have all items required or at the very least readily available........too many things can get in the way unless you're 100% time and perhaps more importantly financially and personal abilities focused.

newsatten

3,355 posts

115 months

Wednesday 1st May
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ratrod 2 said:
newsatten said:
ratrod 2 said:
Sounds and looks like you have had a result , Although a lot of work ahead it's good news that it is structurely sound and better than expected when getting home.Rare find these days with most having been already restored at inflated prices., Like every one on here looking forward to your progress ,Ever thought about becoming a "You Tuber" ,would make interesting content and give the likes of Shmee a run for his money .
Haha
I’m far too common to do any video’s blogs etc,
No I’ll just bore the pants off you lot !
Joking aside I’m really looking forward to getting stuck in , but at this time patience is the word!
I’ve been reliably informed that there’s a outside chance it may get inspected, unlikely but possible,
So need to keep it all together, which tbh suits me for the time being,
As funds allow I’ll start cobbling parts together,

Well we actually brought a car, got a new 24 plate Volvo XC 40 2 lt Mild hybrid,
In Vapour Grey , pretty car, the wife’s chuffed so that’s something else off the list !!!
Theoretically the house is done , the wife’s got her car,
I should be able to crack on with my baby laugh
Sounds like your wallet has taken a bit of a bashing but at least with the house done and you and the wifey sorted with new toys your ready to go with the T/Am build, wish i had the knowhow and the skill to do the same but it would end in tears like the Espada that i was foolish enough to pull apart and ended selling as a meccano kit to a specialist who broke it for parts as was worth nothing in those days
Haha
Yep I’m running in empty for now !
But seriously yes we’ve done a fair amount over the last couple of years,
But theoretically the worst should be behind us for hopefully a little while!
I’ll crack on with the TA once the paper trail is being completed,
I’ve loads to do which is more time/labour based than actually spending money, so it should give me a bit of breathing space!
Obviously going to bare metal the shell, which is aways a bit bum clenching on a very old car!
But also obviously it’s the only way!!!
I’m reasonably confident that it will prove to be very sound and strong, which also means a perfect base for my restoration.
For now I’m keeping it all complete but will start removing the paint then go to work with the acid
Ferro-bet, the worst bit is the roof panel,
But having had a good o’l poke and scrap pretty certain it will clean up just fine???


If you enlarge the pic you can see the clean metal under the crap!!

aeropilot

34,733 posts

228 months

Wednesday 1st May
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roscobbc said:
aeropilot said:
ratrod 2 said:
wish i had the knowhow and the skill to do the same but it would end in tears like the Espada that i was foolish enough to pull apart and ended selling as a meccano kit to a specialist who broke it for parts as was worth nothing in those days
Yep, its why I ended up sending off all the '32 bits to someone that knew how to actually put it all together, as if I hadn't, there would still be a large pile of bits sitting in boxes in the garage........and they'd have still been there when I'm being put in my own box..... rofl
A very good reason for 'not' taking a car apart if intending a major resto unless you have all items required or at the very least readily available.......
Or, in the first place, don't buy a car already taken apart (what was left of it) as I did laugh



Edited by aeropilot on Wednesday 1st May 14:49

newsatten

3,355 posts

115 months

Wednesday 1st May
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This is now under 30k
Looks a level car, both tops and loaded
Unusual interior colour,
Bit of you RR???

ratrod 2

1,005 posts

10 months

Wednesday 1st May
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newsatten said:
This is now under 30k
Looks a level car, both tops and loaded
Unusual interior colour,
Bit of you RR???
Mind reader or what !!!, Still haven't bought a new laptop,nipper to busy at work to hold my hand through the mindfield of computers in PC World.

So took another trip to the library this morning ,now on first name basis with the staff there,

There are seven 57 T/Birds that have been hanging around now for some time now ,this is one of them ,

The best thing about the library is they have proper computers with large photo's and writing for my useless eyesight

and i can get a better idea of the condition of the cars especially the hidden away places like the shuts ,engine bay ect

Apart from one which is only about 50 miles away which looks lovely in baby blue it has remained at the asking price of £40K for at least

9 months now ,the rest are in York Norfolf and this one in the middle of Wales ,Tempting now with the second or third reduction