RE: Dodge Challenger
Discussion
NATM5 said:
Interesting Article, especially as i have been trying to get one.
The part i like is the price quoted by specialist importers. More like specialist rip off merchants. I think £ 50,000 is a tad rich , although the 2 importers i asked for prices both quoted me £ 45,000.
Now call me old fashioned but i dont like being ripped off.
If i may.
Cost of Dodge Challenger SRT8 in orange.......$ 41,000 ( you may get a local discount as its being exported.
Shipping to UK $ 2000.00
Total cost $ 42000 which = £ 22,000.00
IMPORT TAX @ 10 % = £ 2,200.00
VAT @ 17.5 % = £ 4,235.00
TOTAL = £ 28,435.00
Now let me see, you have your car at the dock what else do u need.........?
registration and SVA test.
SVA test is £240.00.......and there may be the odd modification here and there and lets be generous and add £ 1000.00
so the total cost comes to £ 29,675.00
Lets be generous again , ill call it a round £ 30,000.
My question is this.................where is the other £15-20,000 gone..............?
Straight in to the robbing specialists importers pocket.
So there you have it, if you want one, bring it over yourself and in fact go there and fetch yourself, and have yourself a holiday there too.
Regards
N.
Is that right about the 10% import tax? I was told its 20% when I was looking to import a motor from Japan. The part i like is the price quoted by specialist importers. More like specialist rip off merchants. I think £ 50,000 is a tad rich , although the 2 importers i asked for prices both quoted me £ 45,000.
Now call me old fashioned but i dont like being ripped off.
If i may.
Cost of Dodge Challenger SRT8 in orange.......$ 41,000 ( you may get a local discount as its being exported.
Shipping to UK $ 2000.00
Total cost $ 42000 which = £ 22,000.00
IMPORT TAX @ 10 % = £ 2,200.00
VAT @ 17.5 % = £ 4,235.00
TOTAL = £ 28,435.00
Now let me see, you have your car at the dock what else do u need.........?
registration and SVA test.
SVA test is £240.00.......and there may be the odd modification here and there and lets be generous and add £ 1000.00
so the total cost comes to £ 29,675.00
Lets be generous again , ill call it a round £ 30,000.
My question is this.................where is the other £15-20,000 gone..............?
Straight in to the robbing specialists importers pocket.
So there you have it, if you want one, bring it over yourself and in fact go there and fetch yourself, and have yourself a holiday there too.
Regards
N.
turbobungle said:
NATM5 said:
Interesting Article, especially as i have been trying to get one.
The part i like is the price quoted by specialist importers. More like specialist rip off merchants. I think £ 50,000 is a tad rich , although the 2 importers i asked for prices both quoted me £ 45,000.
Now call me old fashioned but i dont like being ripped off.
If i may.
Cost of Dodge Challenger SRT8 in orange.......$ 41,000 ( you may get a local discount as its being exported.
Shipping to UK $ 2000.00
Total cost $ 42000 which = £ 22,000.00
IMPORT TAX @ 10 % = £ 2,200.00
VAT @ 17.5 % = £ 4,235.00
TOTAL = £ 28,435.00
Now let me see, you have your car at the dock what else do u need.........?
registration and SVA test.
SVA test is £240.00.......and there may be the odd modification here and there and lets be generous and add £ 1000.00
so the total cost comes to £ 29,675.00
Lets be generous again , ill call it a round £ 30,000.
My question is this.................where is the other £15-20,000 gone..............?
Straight in to the robbing specialists importers pocket.
So there you have it, if you want one, bring it over yourself and in fact go there and fetch yourself, and have yourself a holiday there too.
Regards
N.
Is that right about the 10% import tax? I was told its 20% when I was looking to import a motor from Japan. The part i like is the price quoted by specialist importers. More like specialist rip off merchants. I think £ 50,000 is a tad rich , although the 2 importers i asked for prices both quoted me £ 45,000.
Now call me old fashioned but i dont like being ripped off.
If i may.
Cost of Dodge Challenger SRT8 in orange.......$ 41,000 ( you may get a local discount as its being exported.
Shipping to UK $ 2000.00
Total cost $ 42000 which = £ 22,000.00
IMPORT TAX @ 10 % = £ 2,200.00
VAT @ 17.5 % = £ 4,235.00
TOTAL = £ 28,435.00
Now let me see, you have your car at the dock what else do u need.........?
registration and SVA test.
SVA test is £240.00.......and there may be the odd modification here and there and lets be generous and add £ 1000.00
so the total cost comes to £ 29,675.00
Lets be generous again , ill call it a round £ 30,000.
My question is this.................where is the other £15-20,000 gone..............?
Straight in to the robbing specialists importers pocket.
So there you have it, if you want one, bring it over yourself and in fact go there and fetch yourself, and have yourself a holiday there too.
Regards
N.
I've just moved over to NY and saw one in black idling at the lights yesterday. I have to say that it did look special and gathered more than a few glances.
When I found out how much they are it really does make me realise what a rip off prices are in Britain. That being said, if you want one right away, people are selling them at $10-15k over list price due to demand. Same is said for many of the high demand cars out here. So whilst rrp's are low, getting them at that seems to be tricky.
Unfortunately, living in Manhattan isn't particularly conducive to owning a car.. but when I move to Jersey next year
When I found out how much they are it really does make me realise what a rip off prices are in Britain. That being said, if you want one right away, people are selling them at $10-15k over list price due to demand. Same is said for many of the high demand cars out here. So whilst rrp's are low, getting them at that seems to be tricky.
Unfortunately, living in Manhattan isn't particularly conducive to owning a car.. but when I move to Jersey next year
Crimp a Length! said:
Stunning
And at M3 money a no brainer in which you'd opt for.
Really? for 50k I would go for an M3 and I am certain a lot of other people would as well would not really like to pay more than 30k perhaps 35k for a car like this as anymore is a bit of a rip off. I just hope Vauxhall decides to build its Monaro concept as it will be a lot cheaper here in the UK faster more powerful and if the last model is anthing to go by should be great fun to drive. And at M3 money a no brainer in which you'd opt for.
it's so irritating!
i'm reading the same thing in about every other review today regardless of supercar or ecnomy-hatch, the steering's too light, should be more responsive, etc.. how long will it take for the manufacturers to catch up? or do they bother with what we think at all? one would think how it's so common it should have been addressed by now?
yup, may consider one over the M3, but only for its greater road presence, me thinks the M3 would be easier on the wallet in the long run though, and considering how quick i lose intrest in novelty..
i'm reading the same thing in about every other review today regardless of supercar or ecnomy-hatch, the steering's too light, should be more responsive, etc.. how long will it take for the manufacturers to catch up? or do they bother with what we think at all? one would think how it's so common it should have been addressed by now?
yup, may consider one over the M3, but only for its greater road presence, me thinks the M3 would be easier on the wallet in the long run though, and considering how quick i lose intrest in novelty..
Valentin said:
MrTappets said:
Doesn't sound at all like a muscle car. Should be getting no more than 200bhp from a 6.1l engine, should roar instead of purr, should spin its wheels endlessly instead of launch properly and should crash into a 'gasoliiine' station with a massive explosion at the first corner. Bah
exactly.And I always liked that both the challenger and the charger had the grace to die young. It's ok if Ford produces a new (great) mustang, because they have done this for the last 40 years. But why wake up the dead??
I also talked to a guy with a Pontiac GTO/Holden Monaro and he was fed up of the BMW-esque/Vauxhall Omega semi trailing arm rear end and was switching over to a solid rear axle: In take offs and drag races the solid axle -especially the Dana 60 rear end is tougher and allows the rear wheels to sit square on take off- for better grip!
NATM5 said:
Interesting Article, especially as i have been trying to get one.
The part i like is the price quoted by specialist importers. More like specialist rip off merchants. I think £ 50,000 is a tad rich , although the 2 importers i asked for prices both quoted me £ 45,000.
Now call me old fashioned but i dont like being ripped off.
If i may.
Cost of Dodge Challenger SRT8 in orange.......$ 41,000 ( you may get a local discount as its being exported.
Shipping to UK $ 2000.00
Total cost $ 42000 which = £ 22,000.00
IMPORT TAX @ 10 % = £ 2,200.00
VAT @ 17.5 % = £ 4,235.00
TOTAL = £ 28,435.00
Now let me see, you have your car at the dock what else do u need.........?
registration and SVA test.
SVA test is £240.00.......and there may be the odd modification here and there and lets be generous and add £ 1000.00
so the total cost comes to £ 29,675.00
Lets be generous again , ill call it a round £ 30,000.
My question is this.................where is the other £15-20,000 gone..............?
Straight in to the robbing specialists importers pocket.
So there you have it, if you want one, bring it over yourself and in fact go there and fetch yourself, and have yourself a holiday there too.
Regards
N.
That's on the assumption you can buy one in the US at list - that certainly wasn't the case with, say, the Shelby GT500 for about a year!The part i like is the price quoted by specialist importers. More like specialist rip off merchants. I think £ 50,000 is a tad rich , although the 2 importers i asked for prices both quoted me £ 45,000.
Now call me old fashioned but i dont like being ripped off.
If i may.
Cost of Dodge Challenger SRT8 in orange.......$ 41,000 ( you may get a local discount as its being exported.
Shipping to UK $ 2000.00
Total cost $ 42000 which = £ 22,000.00
IMPORT TAX @ 10 % = £ 2,200.00
VAT @ 17.5 % = £ 4,235.00
TOTAL = £ 28,435.00
Now let me see, you have your car at the dock what else do u need.........?
registration and SVA test.
SVA test is £240.00.......and there may be the odd modification here and there and lets be generous and add £ 1000.00
so the total cost comes to £ 29,675.00
Lets be generous again , ill call it a round £ 30,000.
My question is this.................where is the other £15-20,000 gone..............?
Straight in to the robbing specialists importers pocket.
So there you have it, if you want one, bring it over yourself and in fact go there and fetch yourself, and have yourself a holiday there too.
Regards
N.
I got a chance to see one of these on the road around 4 months ago. NY Times journalist was reviewing it and took it around for the weekend. Everywhere he went people ran over to check it out. Maybe it's an American thing but they really like the old muscle cars.
It's not really my kind of car but I really feel with all these new pretenders out there this one really seems to me to capture the look and style of the classic like none of the others have.
I still ain't buying one.
I'm more of a 550 spyder or fisher fury kinda guy
It's not really my kind of car but I really feel with all these new pretenders out there this one really seems to me to capture the look and style of the classic like none of the others have.
I still ain't buying one.
I'm more of a 550 spyder or fisher fury kinda guy
Huggybearuk said:
Well Dealer here in Qatar says if you can get one thats been registered for 6 months outside the UK then there is no duty to import it.
You have to have OWNED it yourself abroad for six months and be able to rigorously prove it, e.g. insurance docs in your nme at American address.I don't understand why Chrysler shipped the two cars back to the States. I guess they couldn't have just left them with a UK dealer as they would need relevant manufacturers docs/assurances to be sold as a new UK car, but I'm sure that they could easily have shifted them (private sale) at Goodwood, rather than incur return shipping costs.
Edited by V8mate on Wednesday 23 July 18:00
skibum said:
I've just moved over to NY and saw one in black idling at the lights yesterday. I have to say that it did look special and gathered more than a few glances.
When I found out how much they are it really does make me realise what a rip off prices are in Britain. That being said, if you want one right away, people are selling them at $10-15k over list price due to demand. Same is said for many of the high demand cars out here. So whilst rrp's are low, getting them at that seems to be tricky.
Unfortunately, living in Manhattan isn't particularly conducive to owning a car.. but when I move to Jersey next year
So here are two availableWhen I found out how much they are it really does make me realise what a rip off prices are in Britain. That being said, if you want one right away, people are selling them at $10-15k over list price due to demand. Same is said for many of the high demand cars out here. So whilst rrp's are low, getting them at that seems to be tricky.
Unfortunately, living in Manhattan isn't particularly conducive to owning a car.. but when I move to Jersey next year
http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/carsforsale/do...
Costwise, the US dealers scab every customer on every new desirable car. Even now, they're asking stupid prices for GT500s. I can practically guarantee that on a vcar like this, the US dealer will charge at least a $20000 mark-up. Most don't even want to sell the ones they get allocated, they generate a lot of showroom traffic and sell the lesser models.
OK, that aside, the true cost is Cost plus shipping to the UK. When it gets here. it's 10% import duty on any car from outside the EU (22% on commercials)and then when you've added that. 17.5% VAT on everything plus docks clearance fees. SVA conversion to UK lights is anything between £500 to £1000 depending on complexity (the Mustang for example has very sophisticated electronics that will fry if you get it wrong) and the SVA test is £150 then you have registration, plates and VEL (currently £185 but due to go up to £200 next year).
I've driven the Charger V6 and it feels and drives like an old Merc which is what's underneath so no surprise there. £50k is a lot of money for this car. My advice is buy a Mustang or wait for the Camaro which will have 422hp and a 6.2 litre engine to play with and it will handle too.
OK, that aside, the true cost is Cost plus shipping to the UK. When it gets here. it's 10% import duty on any car from outside the EU (22% on commercials)and then when you've added that. 17.5% VAT on everything plus docks clearance fees. SVA conversion to UK lights is anything between £500 to £1000 depending on complexity (the Mustang for example has very sophisticated electronics that will fry if you get it wrong) and the SVA test is £150 then you have registration, plates and VEL (currently £185 but due to go up to £200 next year).
I've driven the Charger V6 and it feels and drives like an old Merc which is what's underneath so no surprise there. £50k is a lot of money for this car. My advice is buy a Mustang or wait for the Camaro which will have 422hp and a 6.2 litre engine to play with and it will handle too.
I went to the local Dodge dealer last week because they actually had one. It was the dealer owner's, had been driven 3 times in 2 weeks ownership and he intended to keep it with less than 200 miles on it. It's criminal I tell you!. It's a bit large.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yqT1rD1RUk
Anyhow, the mark-up is $10-15k on list, that's the market value and what dealer's are selling them for. Their allocation of 6 in September are already sold, some traded his Z06 there and then for $30k. One local dealer sold an SRT for $75k.
There's quite a demand it seems
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yqT1rD1RUk
Anyhow, the mark-up is $10-15k on list, that's the market value and what dealer's are selling them for. Their allocation of 6 in September are already sold, some traded his Z06 there and then for $30k. One local dealer sold an SRT for $75k.
There's quite a demand it seems
Edited by HearmeROAR on Wednesday 23 July 23:44
LuS1fer said:
I've driven the Charger V6 and it feels and drives like an old Merc which is what's underneath so no surprise there. £50k is a lot of money for this car. My advice is buy a Mustang or wait for the Camaro which will have 422hp and a 6.2 litre engine to play with and it will handle too.
I dont know what platform the Camaro will have so I cant comment, but there is a world of difference between the V6 Charger on the LX platform and the top of the line Hemi Challenger on the LX platform.I had a Mustang V6 as a long term rental car (a few months) it was fun and pleasant and reasonably good on fuel, but I didnt like the way it would jiggle its behind- due to the poor location of the back axle- its on coil springs- my 1970 challenger doesnt do this- because the leaf springs offer better location. I actually prefered the way the new charger handled.
I'm not one to rubbish US solid rear axles - as many do on these boards, but I actually think that using an old Mercedes platform with there excellent multi-link rear is an advantage.
I don't think you can compare the excellent forth coming new challenger to the Mustang.
Edmunds-insideline video obviously agree with me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yqT1rD1RUk
who praise the SRT8 despite its greater weight and size.
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